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Ford Five Hundred/Mercury Montego

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  • theo2709theo2709 Posts: 476
    The next Impala (FWD, 2006) will probably be a real 500 competitor.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    Well, they are both LARGE cars that their respective companies prefer to call mid-size. I have an Impala and am shopping Five Hundred. Yep, I'd say you are right...
  • rctennis3811rctennis3811 Posts: 1,031
    Was one of the best looking Ford sedan concepts I have ever seen..then again, you don't really see many sedan concepts from Ford. I hope they bring the 427 to life, but with a big V6 and optional V8 without a V12 or whatever MONSTRER engine it had.
  • tomcat630tomcat630 Posts: 854
    "500 will be in rental fleets"

    Many of your favorite Chevies are also filling up Avis, National, and Alamo lots. So what, don't like it, then don't buy it. Loyal GM buyers won't anyway.

    At this point it's a crap shoot, since the Taurus will still be around. Wait and see.
  • klauscklausc Posts: 6
    This is very trying, reading about the poor power of the 3.0 Duratec. I could understand it if we lived in Germany where the minimum speed for the left lane is 80MPH. This is the land of 1000 mile day trips with a maximum speed limit of 75, and only west of the Mississippi! 0-60 times of about 8 seconds for a family car is adequet, and the real test of a car is the ability to sit in it for 8 to ten hours at a time without hurting.

    I test drove a Passat with 4WD and W8 motor. The back seat room was tight, the trunk marginal at best, and the front seats made for people who weigh less than 160 lbs. It was FAST, but used premium gas and only got 18 MPG.

    May the new 500 give me enough torque to haul a small boat, 5 people in comfort, start at -20 and have A/C that can handle 120F. I want to use it for cruising the Interstate, not ten minute bursts of speed at 155MPH.

    BTW, Europeans don't understand our need for cupholders, they don't spend the whole day in a car to get to Grandmother's house.
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Posts: 792
    Both the size and the price will matter. The Chrysler 300 series will also have a higher seating position (2.5" higher than previous models), and has very similar interior dimensions. The new Avalon may also be large, but who knows about the seating position? I was leaning heavily towards the 500, because of the size and seating position (and I like the looks), but now that I have found that a loaded Chrysler 300 with the hemi will only cost a little over $35,000 (sticker), I have put it first on my list. The base 300 will start in the low $20,000 range, so the 300 will compete with everything from 500s, Camrys, and Accords to M45s and GS430s.

    2005 will be a very good year for car guys - the new Mustang, the new 500, the GT, the 300, and all of the other new models.
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,476
    " test drove a Passat with 4WD and W8 motor. The back seat room was tight, the trunk marginal at best, and the front seats made for people who weigh less than 160 lbs. It was FAST, but used premium gas and only got 18 MPG. "

    Huh?
    - Ray
    235 lbs. +/- and never the slightest bit uncomfortable in 20,000 miles of driving a W8 . . .
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    In the two southern states where I divide my time, AWD is not needed - ever. So we even buy 2WD SUVs and trucks here, unless you're a testosterene-deficient overcompensating male who just has to have 4WD to prove something.... Sorry, don't know where that came from. Anyway, it's good to see Ford leading out here, because in over half of North America, AWD would certainly be a great winter idea. Good article.
  • has a lot of testoterone-deficient males who need to over compensate for something. We also have lots of women that spend more on their $60K Escalades than their mortgage payments.

    The pic of that Montego in the great article (thanks John) is the ugliest thing I've ever seen.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    I understand that Ford didn't think GM should have all the fun with the "angry applicance" designing theme! :)
  • But, John, you're too quick on the draw today.

    Montego looks like one of those over-compensating males took his steel-toed workboot to the front end of a Sable.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    The Focus is ugly, the 96 Sable was ugly, but so is the Impala, the Malibu, the Cavalier, the Monte Carlo, and the last Caprice was the ugliest of all, IMO. So, chevyguy, why are you even here? It's clear you're a "chevyguy". We wouldn't expect you to like a Ford product.
  • grbeckgrbeck Posts: 2,361
    I agree with nvbanker - Chevy fans are in no position to criticize Ford's styling efforts. The Five Hundred may be too derivative of recent VW/Audi vehicles, but it is not a bad-looking vehicle.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Yeah, I've noticed too that the new Fords remind me of a Passat inside. Not altogether a bad thing, but not my favorite theme either..... OTOH, the GM stuff, even Cadillac, reminds me of.....well old GM stuff!
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    nvbanker, that you havent spent much time in Passats, then.

    ~alpha
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Just at car shows, alpha. Wouldn't even consider taking one home.
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    I've warned everyone around me, if they got a VW/Audi, I was no longer going to speak to them. I'm sick and tired of the "Oh my VW has problems, can you help me"..Then before I know it, I'm spending hours with dealer's, techinicians, phone with HQ's to solve their problems. Granted, I'll do it for the occasional MB, BMW, GM, etc. but when it's solely VW...it becomes tedious real quick.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    there's a Ford Tempo or Pontiuck 600 with your name on it ina junkyard somewhere!

    I for one (in MN) am glad to see the mfr's waking up and thinkikng more seriously about AWD.....I am sure they will stick it to us pricewise tho.
  • Comments like: "...why are you even here?"
    &
    "Chevy fans are in no position to criticize Ford's styling efforts" notwithstanding, this discussion is open to all.
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