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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,708
    maybe not the Ford Fiesta but the Ford Festiva did. The Ford Fiesta did come first, though, and it was sort of a Ford-produced "world car", with boxy, hatchback-type lines to it, IIRC.

    Now, when you're talking the Ford Festiva, come about 1988 or so, you're talking an entry by Kia Motors of South Korea, and now you're cookin' with some strong utensils nearby, rockylee.

    It was a very reliable little rig for the thousands and thousands of Americans who bought one to enjoy, and it rang the first "Kia Motors" bell I had ever heard. It battled the Chevy Sprint fiercely.

    The rest is history, as many have said.

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    2 of my friends own Fiesta's. I however could picture me hitting a cattle truck once again in one. :surprise: Sardines anyone ? :blush:

    Rocky
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,708
    but you best be watchin' out for those Texas fires, I guess, too. Whoa, horsey! :surprise:

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • ubbermotorubbermotor Posts: 307
    Another "Olds man" that didn't just migrate to other GM divisions. Clearly not many did.
  • bumpybumpy Posts: 4,435
    Well since I'm feeling kind I will buy you a Ford Fiesta and will make the payment for you.

    Hey Rocky, I'll take you up on that. Make mine a Fiesta RS:

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  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    What is that ? Is that sold here ? :confuse:

    Rocky
  • bumpybumpy Posts: 4,435
    It's a European Fiesta (one size smaller than the Focus) with a body kit and a 180hp turbo motor. The Fiesta ST is a milder version with 150hp in Euroland. The closest we ever got to that was the SVT Focus, which was killed as part of Ford's master plan to sell the dullest cars possible in the US.
  • au1994au1994 Posts: 785
    Nope, he shopped GM, Buicks mostly, but after riding in my sisters Camry it was a done deal. He had been a GM man almost exclusively for life: 8 Olds, 2 Caddy's, 4 Chevy's and a Buick. He did buy Mom a Dodge Omni once and a Mazda 626 once. He did have a 65 and 66 Mustang and a 56 T-Bird as hobby cars at various times.

    Now he's in the Camry and Mom has a Subie Outback. Or the 'Outie' as she calls it. That replaced a 99 Malibu.

    It is very painful for him to admit, but their current cars are far superior to the GM ones that they replaced in terms of comfort, features and styling. Like I said he was a loyal GM man despite problems on some of their products:

    The one Olds I mentioned that blew the motor.

    Another Olds ate 2 transmissions.

    Yet another went through axles.

    One of the Caddy's was burning oil so he ditched it.

    And these were not high mileage cars when the problems occured. Dad was one of those that traded every 2-3 years. Thats changed now that he's closing in on retirement.

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,708
    and its kind of funny, I was tooling along in 1999 in a 1997 Ford Escort in purple metallic paint, enjoying the Ford but finally realizing it just plain looked dull. Dull. Kind of hapless.

    My friend had bought a white 1999 Kia Sephia and I asked him what he thought. He could have told me that it drove like the yellowest Yugo on the planet and I still would've looked into test driving my own 1999 Kia Sephia sedan. Really, there was more design intelligence in that 1999 Kia Sephia than the entire Ford lineup put together from 1970 to 1999.

    I did and the rest is recorded down in history for automotive junkies to feast upon. The Japanese and the South Koreans both have the ability to concentrate on and produce into production solid and cool little cars.

    History. It's a strong, solid thing. Watch Kia and Hyundai dominate the world automotive market. It will be fun. :D

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • oregonboyoregonboy Posts: 1,653
    Unbridled enthusiasm is a wonder to behold. :shades:
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    nobody, I mean NOBODY, is more enthusiastic than iluv. It is good to see someone enjoying their ride so much. :-)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    Agree. He's gotta be up their as one of Kia's biggest fan. ;) What is there 4 or 5 of them. :surprise: J/K. I couldn't resist. I will say they are coming along very well, and if the Chinese don't gobble up there fair share of market share to quickly, they will be a major player eventually. ;)

    Rocky
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    Kia is a major player already - they have a more widespread dealer network than some brands that have been here longer (Suzuki and Mitsubishi come to mind, maybe Mazda, VW, and Subaru too). And they are recognized as a value leader, even if they also still have the rep that you toss a coin on dependability if you go for the Kia purchase. I am sure the warranty overcomes peoples' fears on that score in a lot of cases.

    Me, I think another value leader is Scion. All Toyota inside and out at Kia prices. If they have a model that meets your needs, they are one of the best deals going.

    I was watching this new show on prime-time last night - either Fox or NBC, I forget which - which is about this youngish guy that works for an airline, and he drives an xB! I chuckled.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    Just sat in a Xa at the Mazda dealer while getting an oil change. It was a dark blue colored one on their used car lot. Incredibly comfortable seats in the front...even with my bad back, beat the snot out of my Sentra's rock hard chairs! Totally impressed with the ergonomics and the quality materials used on all the different surfaces. The speedo in the center stil would be a deal breaker for me though...absolute ridiculous place for it. I'd also hate to be in an accident with one to. Not much crumple space at all.
    But for someone on a tight budget, it probaly fits the bill perfectly. It's also got that "cool" factor going for it to! Would like to drive it once to see if it can indeed get out of it's own way.

    The Sandman :)
  • b3nutb3nut Posts: 83
    "Agree. He's gotta be up their as one of Kia's biggest fan. What is there 4 or 5 of them. :surprise: J/K. "

    hehehehe....well, I've been fairly won over as another Kia fan. Ended up pulling the trigger on an '06 Rio5 hatch, almost 1300 miles on it already and I've had it a week. :surprise: Well, I did take it on a quick road trip I had planned well in advance, didn't know I'd be trading the old ZX2 in before I left though! So far so good, I really like the car. Smooth on the highway, not luxury car supple but taut and controllable, and bumps are handled nicely. It's very nimble in town as well. We'll see how she does on the long haul, but it's certainly tightly screwed-together, they put a lot of thought into the design and engineering. It's miles ahead of what they were doing a few years ago. Won't be long and I'll have her in for her first oil change at 3K...

    Todd in Beerbratistan
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,370
    Hey, Todd.. Where is Beerbratistan?.. it sounds like a good place for my next vacation.. ;)

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  • b3nutb3nut Posts: 83
    The land of cheese, brats, and beer! :D

    Also known as Cheesecurdistan, for the deep fried cheese curds. Makes your arteries harden before you start even eating them!

    Todd in Beerbratistan
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,708
    called the Wisconsin Dells, right, Todd? Fun under the sun in sausage and beerville. Worth a trip to go see, I would think. :)

    BTW, Todd, in the size of car I like the one you bought could very well be the best value on the planet for what you paid. This latest round of Kia's steps them up and at least equal to Toyota/Scion's in the same range, IMHO.

    The Scion xA or the Kia Rio5 or the Kia Rio LX sedan are my current front-runners for futures.

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    you've driven the new Rio, and you don't hate that shifter? I don't get it.

    Or did you drive an automatic? C'mon, you can admit it! ;-)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • b3nutb3nut Posts: 83
    Yup, lots of waterparks. I have yet to actually go to one, though I did stop at the Cracker Barrel there on my way back home from a dog rescue transport. We're planning on taking our niece up there sometime this summer though...there's plenty of room in the back of the Rio5 for the munchkin. :D

    Todd in Beerbratistan
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,708
    nope, I have yet to test-drive the new 2006 Kia Rio, in either a slushbox or a manual tranny. Kind of hard to believe, isn't it?

    I have done the walk-around the rig thing at the dealer and peered at the sticker on the window, inside the rigs, etc. Someone bought the blue 2006 Kia Rio LX sedan, BTW, at my local Kia dealer.

    It's gone. :cry:

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  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    that's because you didn't pounce soon enough! :-)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,708
    'cause I'm forbidden to pounce at this time! :cry:

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,370
    Ahhh... there is a new casual dining chain from up that way.. that just opened here.. the name escapes me now..

    But, deep fried cheese curds is one of their specialties..

    However, I can get all the beer and brats I want, right here in Zinzinnati.. ;)

    Beerbratistan... nice..

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  • jlawrence01jlawrence01 Posts: 1,828
    However, I can get all the beer and brats I want, right here in Zinzinnati..

    Yes but what is generally served in Cincinnati as a bratwurst (a veal-pork sausage that is weisswurst) would not be considered a bratwurst in most other Midwestern cities.

    As for the restaurant, it is Culver's. And you can do a LOT better than Culvers IMHO.

    Beerbratistan... nice..

    I assumed that he was referring to Milwaukee.
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,565
    Gee, I stumble across this discussion and though I've lived in Wisconsin all my life I didn't know I lived in Beerbratistan! Southeast Beerbratistan to be specific, maybe I should change it to Millerwaukee?

    And sure you can do better than Culvers, but it has better burgers than the national fast food chains, a much more expansive menu, frozen custard to die for (try it you'll like it) and you don't have to stand at the counter to wait for your food, they deliver it to your table, all for only a slight premium in cost over the golden arches.

    There, in keeping with this discussion, I have managed to post nothing about cars, as appears to be the general theme lately.
  • pleiadespleiades Posts: 38
    It's time to replace my beloved 1986 Honda civic wagon....sadly honda doesn't make anything like it anymore. It was perfect for my needs...
    So...what car comes close? Doesn't have to be a Honda I suppose...but I loved the configuration (wonderful cargo area, high roof) and handling of that car (and still climbs our local hills at top speed), at a great low price....P
  • dglozmandglozman Posts: 177
    Have you tried Mazda5? This is the best kept secret in auto industry. This is not a mini van, but IMO it better then any wagons. Check it out. We just got one and we never even considered it!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,468
    what about the Honda Fit?

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    the new Fit will be almost the identical size. Peppy, with good handling too!

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

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