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Dodge Charger 2006+

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  • 1997montez341997montez34 Posts: 201
    Honestly, I don't think it would've been smart for DCX to invest in a transmission that practically no one would buy. Everyone screams that they want a stick on the internet, but actual sales numbers do not reflect the demand.

    I know this may be auto-enthusiast sacriledge, but the automatic in these cars is so nice and responsive, and the HEMI makes so much power andd torque, that a manual transmission is not really necessary. At least that's my thought. Not sure about other people here, but I live in NJ where traffic can be a pain. As much as I loved driving a stick in the past I am thankful for my automatics when I'm in a traffic jam. The HEMI just needs a nudge of the gas pedal and you're gone...no shifting required.
  • capitanocapitano Posts: 509
    DCX has existing gearboxes that would fit the bill. I am not sure that there would be such a huge investment in getting one of them set for the Charger. I don't expect dealers to stock them, but that DCX would at least allow an order for one.

    I drive a stick in heavy traffic every day here in Miami. It can get annoying, but the traffic itself is the problem, not the transmission. From watching how people drive in heavy traffic, I'm convinced that the whole reason driving an MT in one of the jams can be a pain is how the slushbox encourages people to crawl right up to the next car and then stop. An MT driver wants to keep rolling.

    In any case the paucity of MTs on domestic vehicles gives a fellow just one more reason to buy an import.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    You're missing the point. Folks who want to shift (me for instance), want to shift. Period, full stop, the end. The fact is, nobody NEEDS to shift anything. Having said that, I've lived in nothing but major metropolitan areas since I learned to stir my own in 1977 (including 10 years in NYC), and I still want three pedals under my dash.

    As for "Investing" in a transmission, there is no need. All DCX needs to do is to knock on the door of their good buddies at Getrag and buy some of their fine units. Judging by the BMW M5, those Getrag 6-Speed manuals are more than capable of dealing with the substantial urge of either version of the Hemi. Would that cost more money than using DCX’s fine in-house 5-Speed automatic? Probably. Doesn't matter though. Many folks that I know who like shifting would gladly pay extra for the privilege, me included.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • kurtamaxxguykurtamaxxguy Posts: 677
    The SRT-8 Charger will have a 6-speed manual as an option? I for one don't miss a manual in LA traffic (an auto trans helped save my life once), but enjoy them on fun to drive country or mountain roads.

    I'm curious if the dealers you folks are visiting are "plussing" their SRT-8's with their own stuff. I.E. tinted glass, "dubs" (22 - 24" wheels), etc.).
  • sputterguysputterguy Posts: 383
    I'm planning on upgrading my '04 GTO to an '05 GTO when I find the right one. There is so much talk about the Charger I thought I would check it out. While it sounds awsome on paper, the styling doesn't do much for me. I could live with the looks but not the four doors. And I'm one of those guys that wants a manual transmission. I know its not needed but that's half the fun. There must be a different demographic for the Charger. The manual GTO's sell the best even though in '05 the auto is actually faster.
  • sputterguysputterguy Posts: 383
    Oh man, I love it. Or at least I did until I drove the '05. That is just a fabulous car. It still has the small trunk, and the cheapo HVAC controls and its hard to get in the back seat although once you are there it is very comfortable. Other than that it's a beautiful car with lots and lots of power.......
  • heinzh2heinzh2 Posts: 49
    FYI ... AutoWeek.com just posted a review, along with handful of pics mostly Daytona version) and details concerning the Charger. I had no idea the Charger is 120lbs less than Magnum and 300, as well as boasting a true 50-50 weight balance. I was impressed to read all that went in to the car, and why they did what they did in moving forward with the 4-door version. Would be nice to see a limited edition (at the very least) coupe as well as an optional manual. These are the first pics that, for me, actually do the car some justice. I find the car great looking in person, but just about every other pics I have seen (excluding the SRT version) don't look the greatest. Has everyone on this post seen this thing in person?
  • xmf314xmf314 Posts: 154
    I saw the Charger at the LA auto show. It certainly wasn't beautiful. It might sell on performance, but it won't sell on style. It's not a cohesive shape, too many odd angles.

    As well as the police version, I suspect DCX will offer a 2.7L version for taxi, fleet, rental, etc, use. I would rent one for cruising the interstate. If I was inside, I wouldn't have to look at the sucker.
  • utterutter Posts: 79
    "I saw the Charger at the LA auto show. It certainly wasn't beautiful. It might sell on performance, but it won't sell on style. It's not a cohesive shape, too many odd angles. "

    See, I am the exact opposite and so are a few people I know. Seeing the pics of the charger caused so much initial commotion in combination with the pics not being that flattering for the car in some ways, caused quite an uproar (also the diversion from the 99 concept).

    But, once actually seeing the Charger in the videos, the new Charger Flash site (which is a really great site), and such it has improved its appeal greatly. So for me, it does combine the style, power, and practicality into one car which is not easy.
  • lostwrenchlostwrench Posts: 288
    I saw one at the New York auto show last April. It looked great! I want one.
  • heinzh2heinzh2 Posts: 49
    Finally confirmation that the Challenger is going to be built ... with 2 doors ...see link: http://autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102549
    It's a shame that we will have to wait till 2009 for this thing! Can't wait to see some of the images of what it will look like. ">link title
  • jimhemijimhemi Posts: 223
    I'm sure what we see now is not what we will get in 2009. Remember the 99 Concept Charger??
  • heinzh2heinzh2 Posts: 49
    Good point ... but we will have to see it first to judge. My guess would be that they are listening ... especially if they are looking to compete head to head with the Mustang in the 2-door market. Starting to sound like the 60's all over again! :shades:
  • gsemikegsemike Long Island, NYPosts: 1,778
    Everyone running out to be these big ol 8s... how do they afford the gas???
  • jimhemijimhemi Posts: 223
    Well, to get technical, the Challenger didn't come out until 1970, well late 1969 for the 70 Model year. If Dodge rebadges the current concept Chrysler Firepower then I'd probably buy it. I'm concerned that they will not let the 6.1 work to it's full potential as to not upset anyone that spend $40k more on the Viper. Same will go for the rear gears, expect something that will keep it slow off the line allowing for the Viper to remain the fastest in the Chrysler stable.
  • c5400hpc5400hp Posts: 11
    Its alot more affordable than Any SUV or Subaru AWD when it comes to MPG.
    I owned a Subaru it was a gas hog and small to say the least.
    If you drive The Hemi with a light foot and not always getting on it youll get pretty good MPG.
    I get 22-24mpg at 70 mph and arrive in style with a car you dont see every day like the common subaru which is a dime a dozen ..And so small you cant haul or pull any load with a trailer..
    Thats why I moved up to the magnum .
  • c5400hpc5400hp Posts: 11
    Did you read the MPG specs for the 6.1.
    4-6 city 10 tops on the highway no esp no traction control .
    The srt magnum 6.1 or charger would only be a fair weather car I couldnt imagine it in any rain or snow conditions.
    The srt version of these larger cars is a real strange market area I see not many selling ,and figure they will be a limited run once they raise the gas cost after this summer .
    Get ready 3.00 a gallon is comming fast .Thats for 89 octane .imagine what 93 would be if you owned any other vehicle.I like the fact the Hmei runs best on lower grade fuel off sets any lose.
  • heinzh2heinzh2 Posts: 49
    Good question, but my question would be more directed to how people afford all those high priced BMW's, Audi's etc? They are all over the place here in GA! Doing a little math ... I could buy an SRT, buy gas at let's say $3.00/gallon ($2.29 here in GA), fill up my 19 gallon tank say twice a week, get the city rating spec found on Edmunds at 14MPG ...

    Then take my $30,000 savings over that BMW 7 series 6.0 (not including any insurance savings ... if any) etc ... and I can operate my SRT for a little over 5 years! The point is that there are people out there that can afford these cars, and frankly, price of gas is just an afterthought. Or maybe they pass up a few Starbucks during the week to afford the gas since that coffee is about $50 something per gallon?! :surprise:
  • jimhemijimhemi Posts: 223
    I think that anyone that buys an SRT of any kind will not really care about the gas mileage, after all they will be hit hard with a gas guzzler tax. If they can afford the cars and the tax then they can afford whatever it costs to fill them up. I don't care either. I just want a pure, rear drive V8 with no frills and a ton of torque. I wouldn't mind the ESC, but when Dodge builds the Challenger they need to consider a full off feature for those of us that want to flog the car around the track on weekends. As for snow or wet weather, that's why I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee. I also have a 71 Charger and know that gas costs what it costs and $3 a gallon for fuel is still cheaper then the current $6 a gallon for 108 octane leaded race fuel. Bring me the 6.1L Hemi in a Challenger and let the tire smoke begin.
  • heinzh2heinzh2 Posts: 49
    Either years still contained some of the best looking cars. I would love to see Chrysler bring out the Firepower! My understanding is that Chrysler is thinking about using the 6.1 in order to keep the cost of the vehicle down versus the engine used in the Viper ... since the Firepower will contain some luxo items that the Viper does not.

    The article I posted noted that the Challenger would be built on the updated model of the 300/Magnum/Charger. I just wonder what will be updated come that year, and I wonder if Dodge will take advantage of that time as well to bring out a 2-door version of the Charger? Personally, I prefer the 4-door simply for the practicality, but catch me in 15 or more years and then I will be shopping for 2 ;)
  • utterutter Posts: 79
    Does anybody know yet? I have been unable to find pricing...

    2006 Dodge Charger 4dr Sedan (3.5L 6cyl 5A) $22,320 MSRP
    http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/dodge/charger/100518592/prices.html

    2006 Dodge Charger RT 4dr Sedan (5.7L 8cyl 5A) $29,320 MSRP
    http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/dodge/charger/100518597/prices.html
  • heinzh2heinzh2 Posts: 49
    The Dodge.com website also has the pricing too ... including the Daytona style.
  • heinzh2heinzh2 Posts: 49
    Hey Montez ... I did not see the pricing yet for the SRT? The Dodge website has the SE, SXT, RT and Daytona RT. Are you able to see something different when you open the website? Thanks ...
  • jimhemijimhemi Posts: 223
    It goes up and we'll all keep driving. Same with people who smoke. They raise the price on a pack of cigs hoping kids will quit or become discouraged. High gas prices, just means have to choose the road trips more wisely.
    When everyone complains about the price of gas, look around and see how much work it takes to producing and refining a gallon of gas compared to water or even a gallon of milk. Gallon of milk costs how much? How much work did it take? Stop the complaining. If you want better gas mileage then the Charger isn't for anyone, Prius forum is somewhere on Edmunds.
  • 1997montez341997montez34 Posts: 201
    Sorry. I guess I shouldn't post until I have my morning coffee. :)

    The SRT-8 pricing is up on Chrysler's website for the 300, not on Dodge's for the Charger.
  • utterutter Posts: 79
    Here is the MSRP list from the Dodge Flash site:

    SE Base MSRP : $22,995

    SXT Base MSRP : $25,995

    R/T Base MSRP : $29,995

    DAYTONA R/T Base MSRP : $32,495


    Dodge Charger Flash Site and Build Your Own Charger

    No SRT-8 information yet. But there is a black SRT-8 displayed on the first page of the flash site.
  • cfazzaricfazzari Posts: 77
    This new Challenger should keep the gearheads happy (my friends JimHemi and Shipo for sure). Too bad we haven't seen any pictures of them yet. the article has a grainy black-and-white photo of the challenger from 35 years ago.

    As for me, I satisfied my lust for "new" wheels by picking up a 1997 Chrysler Town & Country. 3.8 L V6 with AWD. The thing outperforms my 3.2L Intrepid both in performance and ride. And it will go through an avalanche if need be :)

    Next year the Intrepid is still scheduled to go to my sons, and Dad will get whatever the hell he feels like!! (Grand Prix GXP, Bonneville GXP, Impala SS, Charger, Mustang and Chrysler 300 AWD are on the short list)
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "This new Challenger should keep the gearheads happy (my friends JimHemi and Shipo for sure)."

    Heeeyyyyy... I resemble that remark! ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • heinzh2heinzh2 Posts: 49
    No problem ... just wanted to make sure there was nothing wrong with my browser :) But I do know what you mean about having the "nectar of gods" in the morning!
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