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Dodge Charger 2006+

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  • jimhemijimhemi Posts: 223
    GM is bringing back the Camaro and Firebird for 2008!

    The success of the new Mustang has prompted GM to reintroduce these American legends. They will have FOUR doors because that is believed to be what the car buyer of today wants. Stay tuned!
  • jtrikjtrik Posts: 11
    This is a car i would definitely consider purchasing. To me, it is muscular, has an attitude and looks fast standing still. In black it would be incredible. I don't have a problem with 2 doors or 4 doors...in this day and age, two doors don't sell, unless it is the Mustang.

     

    The only thing i have any problems with is that it will only sell as an automatic. I can't stand that! This car deserves a stick, an NO! I hate the manumatics out there...BFD!

     

    This car will sell, i have no doubt about it...Charger name or not.
  • chargercharger Posts: 11
    Hey Jim Hemi! SO that is what they do? they use the same template for all bodies? You know when I think of it all nascars do look exactly the same except for the stickers. Just goes to show you how much nascar has changed over the years too. They have gotten real fake too. You are right on bro that Charger looks like a truck that is no muscle car! What the hell are these guys thinking.
  • chargercharger Posts: 11
    RIGHT ON DAKOTA DON! THEY NEED MORE THAN JUST GLASSES! :)
  • chargercharger Posts: 11
    Jim Hemi, I am sorry to have to break this to you brother but these people ejected you because they do not want to hear after they spent all of that money that people do not like the car. THey do nt want to hear any negative stuff all they want to hear is that people love it or have slightly moderate complaints with is so they can change next year's model They do not want to hear from guys like us that find the idea of naming that car Charger awful. Hey the car is a car and that is all it is. As far as cars go it is ok as a general purpose car like an intrepid or stratus. I don't have a real problem with the car itself But The Charger was supposed to be much more than that. Also I hear a lot of guys here complaining that the thing is not even offered in stick? That is Charger? I don't think so. SO don't feel bad about speaking your mind Jim Hemi the only problem here is that they can't handle the truth. :)
  • chargercharger Posts: 11
    Another thing Jim Hemi if you notice my original message (#103) is suddenly missing Like I said no one wants to hear the negative only the positive. I agree with you and I think this thing is a sham. I trusted Edmunds too I thought they were different.
  • chargercharger Posts: 11
    Kirstie. NateMeeche@ryder.com is my E mail address.
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  • chargercharger Posts: 11
    Rik4, Dakota Don, Jim Hemi, I salute you and all the rest of those guys and girls here that are not afraid to tell it like it is and I am behind you all the way!
  • chargercharger Posts: 11
    Yeah? and I respect your opinion that the car is beautiful. LIKE I SAID (if you would have read carefully.) If you like it buy it if you don't then don't.
  • jimhemijimhemi Posts: 223
    Well, I appreciate your support and I supported you and noticed that you're right, the Emperor does not like to be told he has no pants!

    They spent billions on this platform. They retool a plant that has to build them(meaning that they won't change for at least 4-5 years). They aero test them and all that junk, only to come out with this car. As I have said all along, this is a good car, not worthy of the name that we hold dear, CHARGER. If this was another Intrepid, or Stratus it would be ok. The hype and the rumors from the concept of 99 to this is what has angered us all(99 had a 5 speed manual, look at the pics, nice interior too). What really angered us was that Chrysler was very good with sticking to the concept cars that they showed. Viper, Prowler,PT Cruiser, and the Magnum, believe they called the Magnum something else, but still, the lines and shapes remained very very close. The debate with this current car is its history and aside from the 80's K car platforms, most people recall the Charger tearing up the tracks with Petty at the wheel and with Bo and Luke Duke out running Rosco P. Coaltrain. This is just what you said Charger, " it is ok as a general purpose car" just not worthy of tarnishing the name plate.

    As for NASCAR, the cars went to a common template last season. This means that all cars and makes must pass through inspection with one common template that will fit all cars. It's in the rule book if you really wanted to go gung ho on it. The engines are what separates the makes. Dodge came back after a long time and their engines because the cam location in the block allows for them to turn slightly more RPMS then other makes. FORD and CHEVY have been using the same basic blocks since the small block debuted in the mid 70's.
  • None of my Mopar buddies think this car should be called a Charger. It has some great attributes that the old school Mopar guys want - Hemi, RWD, good handling, etc. The Charger was always a 2-door, high performance car with great styling. This car should have been called something else, Magnum sedan, Coronet (Dodge built a couple of four door Coronets in 1966 with 426 Hemis). Unfortunately for the die hard Mopar guys, Ford seems to have the edge in styling right now with the new Mustang and the GT. The Chrysler Firepower is pretty cool, a Viper with a Hemi. Can we afford it though? I don't particularly like the styling of the "Charger". It looks like the 300 with a Magnum front end stuck on it. The Charger concept car a few years ago had four doors, but people generally loved that design.
  • jimhemijimhemi Posts: 223
    Is there anyway to get a transcript of last night's chat?
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  • The 2006 Charger has a place for your Mocca latte, back doors for the kids to get in out of at soccer practice and yet has the power to prove you have enough fortitude to kick that hick in the beat up pickup truck. Bottom line, the 2006 Charger is for man in touch with his feminine side. IMHO the only thing they got right on this car was how they spelled "Charger".
  • andyman73andyman73 Posts: 368
    Well not the GTX, or Super Bee or Queen Bee, Road Runner...maybe Belvedere or Satellite. Savoy, anyone? Ha ha ha...what about Valiant? Okay I was just kidding about that one. :D

     

    Can you even imagine when the current crop of future drivers grow up, and are driving the 06 Charger to school. And their teachers will tell them that they missed out on the real Chargers. They won't have clue what the teachers are talking about.
  • andyman73andyman73 Posts: 368
    Ooh, I know a Dart, with a Swinger package! Mom had one! Dad had a 70 Cuda from new.
  • rik4rik4 Posts: 90
    this car is so ugly that mr black has it on his ten worse dress list. please call in queers eyes for a straight guy to fix it.hehehe. Mr brown if you are so sure it is so great then take this pledge: if the car fails to sell as well in percentage of all dodge cars did in 1968 when the modern charger took form ( i am skipping 1966-67 quasi chargers) then you should do the honorable thing and resign and if it sells better then you should get a salary raise equal to the percentage of increase. I know you will not take this pledge cause we all know ( unless we are blind or stupid) that it is a bonafide loser. Please move to the pontiac division maybe you can espouse the merits of the asstek. As for me i am joining the dodge rebellion and telling you get with it or get out. This should be called the stratus GT or something like that. it is not a charger by any means. By your standards vettes and ferraris all have missed the boat and should be 4 drs well make the viper 4 drs then and see if you sell any. We don;t want any 4 dr chargers and we dont want charger wagons either or charger vans or charger suv's. WE WANT A 2 DR real charger. I thought deiter would be good for dodge chrysler but if this is his idea please go back to deutschland your american car knowlegde is askew. GO back and design mercedes GULLWING SL wagons and see if any one will buy it. In the chat mr burke stated none are slated for the euro market. THat should not surprise anyone. What stupid german would ever buy one. Can you picture jaguar afficiandos switching or people in italy selling their masseratti and gettin one. WHat a laugh. Well here is my advice do not bring any to the usa either... keep them at the canadian plant... and see if you can sell them closer to home. We do not want them in the usa. We are ashamed of them. at least i am. export them all. share the shame with the rest of the world or as you would have us believe the ingenuity and creativeness of it. After all misery loves company. to close i will quote from honest abe... mr brown. you can fool some of the people some of the time... but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. We are not fooled and more importantly we will not be buying your farce. I can visulize 5000.00 rebates in 90 days just like the aztek. Who did you test market this design with. In this state the blind do not get drivers licenses. If i had to defend this design I would resign from chrysler and just wait till it fails... which will be obvious in a few months...and then I would have job offers all over. When it fails who will want you. If you promote an ill conceived idea and keep trying to justify something that is wrong you will have no credibility in the end. By refusing to promote this disaster at least you would have retained your dignity and honesty and my respect.
  • andyman73andyman73 Posts: 368
    Ahoy Rik, matey!!! May I be so kind as to sum up what you just said?

     

    It sucks royally, and is a disgrace to the Charger name and Dodge name!

     

    Am I close?
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    >>>Well not the GTX, or Super Bee or Queen Bee, Road Runner...maybe Belvedere or Satellite. Savoy, anyone? Ha ha ha...what about Valiant? Okay I was just kidding about that one. :D<<<

     

    Well then, should they have brought back the "Meadowbrook" or "Saratoga" for the wagon-like Dodge Magnum?
  • m1miatam1miata Posts: 4,556
    Looks like they, as in all domestic makers of cars, are blowing a chance to catch Japan off guard. If they produced cars with the beauty of say the real Dodge Charger, or the real Malibu SS of 1968, I am sure people would once again be excited about cars again. Current models are either front wheel drive econo boxes, or larger Marathon cab looking rear wheel drive cars. What ever happened to flowing lines of years gone bye? While the new Mustang could be a little more modern styled in the mix or retro / modern, at least it looks 100% better than these new things that are part truck, part taxi cab and part looking for a identity. The last car that pulled me in imediatly when first viewed was a '91 Stealth, which I ended up buying. Sure, front wheel drive, but at least it had the style and class. Actually it was fun to drive and handled pretty good; so not all just looks. Heck my '98 Corolla looks more shapely than a Charger. Looks as good, if not better than the new Cobalt, for that matter. And my Miata make is something actually seen on the tracks. They won't be racing 4dr. Chargers anytime soon. What they did right is to re-introduce rear wheel drive, and the Hemi V8 will be a good option for those wanting for more power and sound than the larger V6 available.
  • andyman73andyman73 Posts: 368
    Now, I'm not the most intelligent guy, and depending if you ask my wife, could be dumber then that. However, wasn't the Magnum one of the names that Mopar used for as an engine designator? And Commmando, wasn't that another engine designator?
  • rik4rik4 Posts: 90
    andyman i think you are in the running for the award. hehehe. right on mate.
  • andyman73andyman73 Posts: 368
    Rik, there's an award? What is it!?! Wow, never got no award before.

     

    Super Omni, anyone? Maybe do a gussied up version and call it the Imperial, or Newport....maybe not.
  • chargercharger Posts: 11
    I TOTALLY 100% SUPPORT ALL OF THE GUYS AND GIRLS HERE THAT THINKS THE IDEA FOR THE NEW CHARGER STINKS. PLAIN ENGLISH.

     

    Now don't get us wrong the car is as alright as any other ordinary newly introduced model car goes, but the choice of name for the new car Charger. For anyone that knows even anything about the Chargers of the past, (When I say Chargers of the past I am referring to the ones that did the MOST to make the name Charger a legend 1966-1974 model years) knows that one look at this new Charger and we are asking ourselves "What the hell was Dodge thinking" First they tell us that the Charger is set to return and everyone is thinking "Yeah Baby!" A 2 door, RWD musclecar,available in stick or auto, possibly some kind of hidden headlight scheme, A slick sexy body, Possibly a nascar type fuel cap again, And all of this to be introduced on the legendary name of Charger. Judging by what Dodge did in the past with the Viper and some of the other recent greats, this bad boy should be good. Ok then the prototype appears and although its not bad looking it certainly isn't that great looking either HOWEVER it has a certain look about it. The biggest problem is the number of doors. Why 4 doors? Well the answer to that is is that the bean counters and marketing hotshots at Chrysler are force feeding us the crap that ONLY 4 doors sell (tell that to FORD. The guys that designed the Mustang should have designed the Charger)Ok fine. Now just when we are starting to accept it they come out with this thing that looks like they were scrounging around in the parts bins trying to piece together something to call a car and then they call it the new charger? Lets face it people are not stupid. Furthermore the our kids are not stupid either. Ever been to a Mopar Nats festival? Do you know how many 18-29 year olds have cars or have an interest in cars that were around before them? Bottom Line The Charger was designed way back when as a War Horse, A world class thoroughbred that is how she should have been re introduced. Not as some pieced together magnum taxi cab. It is a real shame what Dodge chose to to to the legacy of the Charger.
  • chargercharger Posts: 11
    Hey look at Burke Brown's Mugshot then look at the nose of the new charger. They look very similar. I think I know why they designed it to look the way it does now.
  • Well the more I hear about the new "Charger", the more I hate it.

     

    Like I said before, I own three REAL Chargers, a '66 with a 440, a '67 with a 383, and a '68 R/T.

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    The only Charger in my mind that has ever been truly and fully entitled to wear the Charger nameplate, is the 1966.

     

    After that, they gained a few little cool things here and there, but overall they went downhill.

     

    So to make a new car in a muscular image, and to be able to call it a "Charger", Dodge should have incorporated design aspects that stuck with what made a Charger of the musclecar era, when it was still a good car.

     

    That means it should have had these things, the best things of the musclecar era Dodge Charger:

     

    Hidden headlights (1966-1972)

    Four bucket seats(1966)

    A full length center console(1966)

    Awesome looking dash gauges (1966-1967)

    A flip top gas cap (1968-1970)

    Sexy and distintive styling (1966-1972)

    Two doors (1966-1974)

    Performance V8 with RWD (1966-1971)

     

    And how many of these things does the 2006 "Charger" have? Just one, the performance.

     

    That's just being lazy on Dodge's part. They choose to be lazy and to turn their backs on people who have bought their products.

     

    A fairly competent person can tell you that they should have used a different name. But no, instead they chose to screw the diehard fans, so they could rape/pillage the once honorable name, in the name of easy sales.

     

    It is a rebadged Intrepid. Plain and simple. A car for family guys, soccer moms, and old people. All those who like it are unfaithfuls who have turned their back on the true Dodge Charger.

     

    I hope the car crashes and burns.
  • Here are some more pictures for comparison, the wannabe "Charger" versus the real Charger...

     

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  • chargercharger Posts: 11
    Hey Fastback1966! First off you got some mean machines there! Secondly I was waiting for someone to do a side by side comparison of the new and the old. It shows even more just how pathetic Dodge's attempt was to design the "new charger" More power to you and you Chargers. Long life to them because they are precious and beautiful. It just goes to show that the general public, The good American people that make these companies who they are are not stupid and we are not blind. We hear you man! There is no substitute for the Old King! As Far as I am concerned they could drop a 1000HP Hemi into the new charger It is still a 4 door car version of a Dodge Ram and a magnum stationwagon.
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