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Ford Focus SVT



  • greenguygreenguy Posts: 78
    that the GTi is ugly. Actually just the opposite.
    I "use" to think the focus hatch was ugly, but being a fan of WRC I got to see the car in action for a couple of years and it has grown (like a "fungi") on me. Plus it will be a high reving sleeper that hopefully wont turn a cop's head as I drive by;)
  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Posts: 1,339
    To each his own, I guess. I've owned several VWs, and I really want to like the current Golf, but I can't get past the clunky exterior design. That, plus the fact that VW seems to take itself a bit too seriously these days. All of the luxo nonsense they cram into the GTI seems out of character in a true performance hatchback. I owned one of the originals - a 1983 GTI purchased sight unseen in the fall of 1982. That was a fun little car! I think the SVT Focus will recapture some of that "let's have some fun!" attitude.
  • greenguygreenguy Posts: 78
    After reading the article in the new Motor Trend, I am even more excited than before when I was reading the previews in other mags. The wait for the car to be released is agonizing.
    On a side note in the May issue of Sport Compact Car they are doing a project Focus. Very interesting read. Though it seems that the almighty Blue Oval has changed nothing in the way of allowing mediocre maintenance to be done. Damn assembly lines.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,148
    I wouldn't be too surprised if that car is not that far away. With cars like the WRX, rumours of the Evo VII, RSX type R, and STI, we could very well be looking at higher powered pocket rockets in the near future. If Ford wants to keep up, they will have to bring the RS here. My guess is, if the SVT does well, then we could see the RS here as soon as mid '03. But, just a prediction, nothing more.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • greenguygreenguy Posts: 78
    The Blue Oval will bring over a car that would "out perform" the almighty Mustang. I understand the following the muscle car has, and they wont convert to a 4-banger. But if a new customer is looking for raw power, bang for buck, then the mustang is the choice. If a customer wants a pocket rocket, low-to-sub 7 second car, the ST focus is the choice for a Ford product.
    The AS would price the car out of reach for the consumer who would want a subcompact powerhouse.
    hats why Ford NEVER brought over the Cosworth Escort that would blow the doors OFF the mustang.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,148
    If the Mustang were to be designed right in the first place, they'd have nothing to worry about. As it is, the base Mustang is pitiful. It should really give them a wakeup call (and all American v8 sports car makers) when a little 2 liter 4-banger can whip their cars. They really need to revamp their engines.

    Also, you wouldn't see the RS for much less than $30K in my opinion, so that still keeps the Mustang in strong contention with buyers. Besides, there is still one MAJOR point that separates the 2 that means everything to alot of buyers out there: FWD vs. RWD.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • greenguygreenguy Posts: 78
    I know the car isnt out yet and info is scarce, but besides does anyone know of anyother info on the SVT focus???<---web info that is.
  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Posts: 1,339
    You can check, but most info I've run across is just one source repeating another. Most of the car magazines got their info from press intros, so it is all about the same, plus or minus some factual errors.
  • greenguygreenguy Posts: 78
    also just found
  • klkrauseklkrause Posts: 96
    Although many people like to compare the Mustang (V8 versions) to smaller, high-powered 4-cylinder engines, there really isn't much of a true comparison. People can quote 0-60 times all they want, but for tire-burning power there is no comparison to a V8.

    I've recently driven a Mustang Cobra and a Subaru WRX, and although the Subaru is a very quick car, the Mustang feels so much easier to accelerate. The low-end grunt of the V8 blows the 4-banger away at low RPM's.

    I'm not actually a big Mustang fan and would probably buy the WRX over the Mustang, but they are very different cars.

    Back to the Focus, though ...

    I put my name on a pre-order list at my local Ford dealership to get a Focus SVT whenever it is they are released. I fortunately get a Ford discount - my wife is an engineer for Ford - so I don't have to worry about being "gouged" by the dealership.

    If my wife didn't work for Ford, though, I would probably get a WRX wagon. Although it is definitely more expensive the AWD and extra power are quite impressive. The thing I'm looking most forward to in the Focus SVT is the 6-speed!
  • revdrluvrevdrluv Posts: 417
    I heard ford had an awd turbo focus planned? anybody know any more on that?
  • gibbo01gibbo01 Posts: 5

    I dont know about the US. but the Focus RS in the UK is AWD. so if that is the case i cant see there being any reason why an AWD SVT is an impossibilty, but it would need more power than the 170bhp it has at the moment, if my memory serves me correct AWD takes aprox 10-15% off the power.


    In my opinion and a general UK opinion, the scoobyWRX, is a match for most cars(in the sub £25000) and is only equalled (depending who you talk to) by the EVO. so performance wise it will run rings round the SVT. Thats why the UK is getting the RS, to compete.

    Looks wise, the focus in my opinion is by far a better looker, and internally is superior as well. the scooby looks so bland.

    Just an opinion.
  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
    First look at the 2002 Ford Focus SVT:

    image's First Look of the 2002 Ford Focus SVT is now available. Here's the complete story: 2002 Ford Focus SVT, Holy Hatchback! by Ed Hellwig. What do you think?

    Thank for your comments. ;-)



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  • kburcrofkburcrof Posts: 6
    I drove a S2 today! I've been in my ZTS for 18 mos. The S2 is a little stiffer ride. It think it is an improvement.

    I can't wait to test the SVT. Anyone want my ZTS, leather, side impact bags...$13,599, 20K miles, black exterior w/ grey leather interior. Im in Beverly Hills, Michigan..48025
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    They are finally taking some of the luxo-junk out of the GTI, sunroof will be optional now and they have upped the ante performance wise.

    Signifigant changes for '02-->
    &#149; Available with 1.8T or VR6 engine
    &#149; GTI VR6 available at a lower content and price point
    &#149; GTI 1.8T will increase from 150 hp to 180 hp
    &#149; New VR6 24V with 201 hp and 6 speed manual transmission will replace current 12V VR6 later in year

    Plus, all '02 VW's will have the new 4/50k bumper-to-bumper warranty. The Focus SVT will have to undercut the price of the new GTI by quite a bit for my money.
  • biker16biker16 Posts: 26
    The RS is front wheel drive not AWD. it has 200 hp and 235 lbs/ft torque. just enough to open up a can O' whoop A$$ on the RSX.
  • mgambermgamber Posts: 4
    I was offered Invoice +2% to buy an SVT Focus.

    Should be about $300 to $400.

    Good? Or should I try to get lower?
  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Posts: 1,339
    If this is a legitimate deal for an SVT equipped the way you want it, I'd jump at it. Until initial demand is satisfied, I don't think there is going to be much dealing on these cars.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,148
    2% is a great deal. Take it! (if you want the car) How much lower could you possibly want?

    Make sure the salesperson isn't talking about a ZX3 or something like that.

    Did you get an idea of delivery date?

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • mgambermgamber Posts: 4
    No, it is definatly the SVT. Says we could expect delivery about Feb.
    When I bought my ZX3, I got $100 over invoice.
    Was thinking of trying to get same deal.
    Am I right in thinking invoice will be around 16k if retail is 18k?
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