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Ford Focus SVT

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  • revdrluvrevdrluv Posts: 417
    I heard ford had an awd turbo focus planned? anybody know any more on that?
  • gibbo01gibbo01 Posts: 5
    revdrluv.

    I dont know about the US. but the Focus RS in the UK is AWD. so if that is the case i cant see there being any reason why an AWD SVT is an impossibilty, but it would need more power than the 170bhp it has at the moment, if my memory serves me correct AWD takes aprox 10-15% off the power.

    osfan456.

    In my opinion and a general UK opinion, the scoobyWRX, is a match for most cars(in the sub £25000) and is only equalled (depending who you talk to) by the EVO. so performance wise it will run rings round the SVT. Thats why the UK is getting the RS, to compete.

    Looks wise, the focus in my opinion is by far a better looker, and internally is superior as well. the scooby looks so bland.

    Just an opinion.
  • pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
    First look at the 2002 Ford Focus SVT:


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    Edmunds.com's First Look of the 2002 Ford Focus SVT is now available. Here's the complete story: 2002 Ford Focus SVT, Holy Hatchback! by Ed Hellwig. What do you think?


    Thank for your comments. ;-)


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  • kburcrofkburcrof Posts: 6
    I drove a S2 today! I've been in my ZTS for 18 mos. The S2 is a little stiffer ride. It think it is an improvement.

    I can't wait to test the SVT. Anyone want my ZTS, leather, side impact bags...$13,599, 20K miles, black exterior w/ grey leather interior. Im in Beverly Hills, Michigan..48025

    burcroff@yahoo.com
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    They are finally taking some of the luxo-junk out of the GTI, sunroof will be optional now and they have upped the ante performance wise.

    Signifigant changes for '02-->
    • Available with 1.8T or VR6 engine
    • GTI VR6 available at a lower content and price point
    • GTI 1.8T will increase from 150 hp to 180 hp
    • New VR6 24V with 201 hp and 6 speed manual transmission will replace current 12V VR6 later in year


    Plus, all '02 VW's will have the new 4/50k bumper-to-bumper warranty. The Focus SVT will have to undercut the price of the new GTI by quite a bit for my money.
  • biker16biker16 Posts: 26
    The RS is front wheel drive not AWD. it has 200 hp and 235 lbs/ft torque. just enough to open up a can O' whoop A$$ on the RSX.
  • mgambermgamber Posts: 4
    I was offered Invoice +2% to buy an SVT Focus.

    Should be about $300 to $400.

    Good? Or should I try to get lower?
  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Posts: 1,339
    If this is a legitimate deal for an SVT equipped the way you want it, I'd jump at it. Until initial demand is satisfied, I don't think there is going to be much dealing on these cars.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,317
    2% is a great deal. Take it! (if you want the car) How much lower could you possibly want?

    Make sure the salesperson isn't talking about a ZX3 or something like that.

    Did you get an idea of delivery date?

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • mgambermgamber Posts: 4
    No, it is definatly the SVT. Says we could expect delivery about Feb.
    When I bought my ZX3, I got $100 over invoice.
    Was thinking of trying to get same deal.
    Am I right in thinking invoice will be around 16k if retail is 18k?
  • digiturbodigiturbo Posts: 17
    2% over invoice !!! Maybe I should have waited for the SVT. Hope the invoice is at low 16K. Now I am thinking to get ZTS with $1500 rebate. Still thinking if I should wait for the SVT. Does anyone know what the invoice is?
  • Does anyone know the expected release date for the SVT Focus? For some reason, I thought it was early fall.
  • Several posts on www.focaljet.com indicate that the release date has been pushed back to April 2002. No one seems to know the reason for the delay, although problems with a key component supplier have been cited. LOTS of unhappy wannabe owners, however.
  • tegwjtegwj Posts: 51
    I went by this dealership last night to inquire about the state of their order queue & allocation. The sales manager told me he had declined all allocation due to price -- he reckons the SVT's MSRP is $27k. I just about choked but he was clearly a car salesman and not an enthusiast -- knew nothing about the car. Suggested that the $17k base price doesn't include an engine.

    twj
  • judasjudas Posts: 217
    He thinks an SVT Focus is going to MSRP at 2 grand less than an SVT Cobra? Call the police, it's obvious hes a crack addict.

    Not only is he not an enthusiast hes not much of a salesman if hes that ignorant.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    It is not a Focus SVT but a ZX3 with a appearance package and interior modifications that I saw at the Ford dealer in the next town from where I live. It had a additional sticker in the window that stated the price was $21,995 with the add-ons. It was "On Sale" for the low price of $19,500. The mods included larger wheels, body kit, graphics, carbon fibre interior trim, and other misc.. No performance mods. to motor.
    It will be interesting to see how high the markup will be on some of the initial SVT's.
  • with the dealers have gotten very good deals. Dealers haven't been gouging them from what I hear. Over at the Focaljet.com site they have a SVT section and there is a good chunk of people there with orders.

    Those stupid dealer cars with all the crap tacked on (out here in Oklahoma it's always trucks with 5000lbs of fiberglass crap added on) always are priced at some insane amount, so I woundn't infer much from that on what they will charge you for a SVT Focus.
  • tegwjtegwj Posts: 51
    So I called the 1-800-FORD-SVT number this morning. Let them know what Sales Manager Mark had told me -- especially the bit about the car not coming with an engine. SVT was going to give him a call and straighten out a few things :-)

    twj
  • chem123chem123 Posts: 272
    Booo to bad/dumb salesmen
  • tegwjtegwj Posts: 51
    So after my miserable luck at Frontier Ford, I called up Swanson Ford in Los Gatos, CA. Asked for the "SVT Specialist" at the dealership but was given one of the regular sales drones. I asked him about the status of pre-orders for the Focus SVT, he told me the car's production had been canceled outright due to emissions problems. Strangely, he didn't turn around and try to sell me something out of inventory, but still.

    twj
  • ..about their products, but does LA have some of the most dimwitted salesmen around? If I'm a salesman and I make up some story about the SVT being canceled (maybe to deter you from waiting on a vehicle and instead, buy one today), I'm sure as hell going to turn around and try to sell you something on the lot!
  • tegwjtegwj Posts: 51
    Yikes. At long last I found a dealer that was clueful and not rapacious. I've ordered the car with just the cold weather package -- no sunroof or stereo pkg -- silver w/blue interior. Who knows when it'll arrive.

    Ordered from Peninsula Ford in Palo Alto, CA. I tried their Menlo Park outlet too but couldn't get a clear answer right then & there about whether they wanted to charge a markup, so went down the street to their cousin.

    Plan is to remove the stock stereo and replace it w/a Nakamichi in-dash changer, decent speakers, and an amp. Will cost a little more than factory sound but ought to sound much better.

    I'm paying MSRP for the car -- $18390 i believe.

    twj
  • If the stock stereo is like the one in our ZX3, you ought to give it a good listen before throwing your money away on aftermarket stuff. It is very listenable - one of the best factory units I've heard in a car that cost what our's did.
  • moses5moses5 Posts: 61
    Actually, the stereo in the SVT is more powerful. I believe it is 400 watts with a sub in the truck.
  • tegwjtegwj Posts: 51
    The stock stereo is something like 120 watts, the optional is 290 incl. subwoofer.

    That said, those numbers are fairly worthless as an indicator of sound quality.

    I appreciate silver_bullet's reminder to live with the stock unit for a while before tossing it aside; my point is simply that, since I'm likely to upgrade anyway, spending extra money on the factory stereo upgrade isn't really necessary.

    twj
  • I think you're refering to the optional Audiophile package. The stock system on the SVT is the same 6-disk in dash CD changer head unit that is standard (for 2002) on the ZX3, ZX5 and ZTS.
  • tegwjtegwj Posts: 51
    ...stock stereo, at least according to published data, doesn't include the changer -- it's part of the same audiophile package that includes the sub & extra amplifier.

    twj
  • Since the SVT is still vaporware, its hard to say exactly which stereo will be standard. The single disc AM-FM-CD unit in our 2000 ZX3 is made for Ford by Visteon, and it really is surprisingly listenable. The controls are large, easy to use, and very intuitive, plus the anti-theft removeable "button bar" / flashing LED is very cool. I've seen the 6 disc unit, and don't like the controls nearly as much. Personally, I think cars like the SVT are meant for driving, and I usually turn off the music for that :) Stay home if you want to listen to music.
  • trevatreva Posts: 39
    Congratulations on your SVT order.
    I was in Peninsula Ford yesterday (getting my zx3 windscreen wiper recall fixed; they botched up the windscreen seal when doing the recall....)
    Usually, they're pretty good with maintenance work, free loners etc.

    Anyway, whilst waiting, I asked the everpresent salesman there about the SVT. He mentioned the SVT's are due to arrive in February and gave me the speech that "as they're Northern California's biggest Ford dealer yada yada" they'd get the biggest selection in. We'll see, but I'd just like to get inside one in a showroom and for a test drive asap. May trade my May2000 model in. We'll see.
    treva
  • I'm a first time participant in the SVT Focus chat room and was prompted to comment based on the enthusiasm of the participants. I'd previously followed the Focus hatchback chat room when it first was formed and I was interested in buying a ZX3. This I ultimately did, ordering an autumn orange stick with abs and side airbags which arrived in June 00. Curiously, this color, which I liked enough to order, is now a slight liability when assigning resale value, and Ford only offered this color in the 2000 model year . So much for my taste in color! It's been a nice car and more refined (substantially more suspension travel and better steering) than the two Neons I'd owned previously, though slower and with more of a thirst for fuel than either my '95 Highline or my '98 R/T. However, I recently had the opportunity to drive a prototype SVT version (the same Sonic Blue one Car and Driver reviewed, (probably "Automobile too) - it had the same license plate number), and while my current ZX3 is a "nice" car, the SVT is a "fun" car. All of you waiting to drive/buy one will not be disappointed. Just wish it came in an autumn orange (!) - or some other color than the four offered - with a parchment interior. I'm looking forward to reading future correspondence in the SVT Focus chatroom. Sounds like fun.
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