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Honda Civic vs. Hyundai Sonata

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  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    i still don't mind hyundai's,but having them being sold for so cheap isn't reasurring. :surprise:
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,715
    Honda Accords can be had for less than a Civic LX too, but I don't lose any sleep over it. Nor do I lose sleep over the inflated pricing of Civics.

    Prices of Hyundais have come UP overall in the past couple of years. Who would have paid over $30k for a Hyundai 2-3 years ago? They do now (Azera, Veracruz). Good luck finding a fully loaded Elantra with leather, alloys, AT, moonroof, ABS etc. for $13k as I did a little over 3 years ago. Incentives have dropped on the Sonata also compared to last year.
  • lengallilengalli Posts: 3
    I AM a Honda dealer. I will not say one bad thing about the crooked H cars, as I find them quite enjoyable. However, some facts. One, the Civic competes with the Elantra, NOT the Sonata. LX vs same type Elantra and the REAL prices are $2000 apart when factoring in rebates etc etc etc. Still, the Honda is a better VALUE. For $2000 more, you get more reliability, more safety, and more economy (CHECK CONSUMER REPORTS IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME). You get an ACE frame/sub-frame in the Honda, not avail in the other H. DRIVE them both, you will find the HONDA drives better, and FEELS better, and LOOKS better, (DRIVE THEM before thinking otherwise). Trade in. EVERY dealer is paying TOP DOLLAR for used Honda's, meaning, you CAN get KBB/Black Book on a HONDA. YOU CANNOT GET ANYTHING NEAR THAT ON A HYUNDAI. PERIOD. THERE IS NO MARKET FOR USED HYUNDAIS. PERIOD. The ONLY people buying USED crooked H cars are people with BAD credit, or "get me boughts". Dealers DO NOT pay the rediculous prices KBB spews from its webiste as "trade-in". FACT, dealers are paying THOUSANDS less than "trade-in" to buy used Hyundai's. You CAN check this out, by looking at what dealers are charging for used Hyundai's and when you do, you will see them priced retail - AT or BELOW WHOLESALE! This MEANS that they OWN the car for a lot less than that. (OFTEN $3,000 or MORE Less).

    Warranty, if you want a REAL warranty, get HONDA CARE (LOOK IT UP). It is VERY inexpensive, covers the WHOLE VEHICLE, is transferable (UNLIKE the Hyundai warranty) AND if you do NOT use it, get a refund !!!!!! HONDA, not Hyundai has the BEST warranty. And, lets not forget - the company with the real BEST warranty is the one where you NEVER have to use it. (Check consumer reports reliability ratings, HONDA is #1, NOT Hyundai).

    BUY AMERICAN, take a look at where your CAR is built. CIVICS are built in the US, by US workers making them a more US car than MANY "domestics".

    While the Hyundai is guaranteed to get you where you are going. The HONDA does it so much better.
  • lengallilengalli Posts: 3
    One more thing. ALL CARS DO NOT AGE THE SAME. One thing I love to do for "cross-shoppers" is this. I show them what a 3 or 4 or 5 or older year competitor vehicle looks like, vs a Honda from the same period. I do this because, 5 and even 10 year old Honda's look, AND DRIVE, just like they did when they were NEW. The competetion doesnt even come close. Consumers have this weird thought process going on when they read that so and so car manufacturer is "getting better", or "most improved". Its almost like they think of the car like a person, which is what the car manufacturer wants. Fact is, whatever car you buy, is NOT going to IMPROVE at all, its not going to GET BETTER, if and when someone makes a car better than HONDA, your car will NEVER be THAT car. Those words simply give HOPE that ONE day things will get better. Thats NOT how cars work, they are not students in high school that 'could' do better 2marro.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,715
    Thanks for saying up front "I am a Honda dealer." That explains a lot.

    It helps to stick to facts though. For example:

    * Some people buy the most car they can with their budget. That pits the Sonata against the Civic, whether you like it or not. Size-wise, the Civic does compete more with Elantra, but the Elantra enjoys a big advantage in real-world price and interior room (mid-sized). The Accent actually has more interior room than the Civic. Also, CR named the Elantra SE their Top Pick in the Under $20k sedan class, over the Civic. Check CR if you don't believe me.

    * As for reliability, the Sonata is one of the most reliable sedans according to CR. Civic is reliable also. A wash.

    * More safety? Civic has an advantage in the IIHS side crash test (Good vs. Acceptable), but Sonata has standard ESC on all trims. I'd say that's no worse than a wash for the Sonata.

    * More economy? Sure. You get higher fuel economy on a compact car with a 1.8L 140 hp engine than on a full-sized car with a 2.4L, 175 hp engine. That is the tradeoff in driving a much larger, smoother, quieter, more comfortable car. The Civic gets better FE than the Accord too--so what? (And the Sonata gets better FE than the Accord.)

    * Feels better? Again you are trading off crisper handling (on a much smaller car) for considerably better ride smoothness. Yes, I've driven both. Have you?

    * Looks better? That is totally subjective. I think both cars look good outside, but I much prefer the looks of the interior of the Sonata.

    * There is no used market for Hyundais? That is a laughable statement.

    * Warranty? Honda Care costs extra, correct? Hyundai also offers an extra-cost extended warranty that is fully transferrable and provides 100k miles of bumper-to-bumper protection.

    * Buy American? Did you know the Sonata is made in America, by American workers?.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,715
    You've never owned a Hyundai, have you? I've owned two--a 2001 Elantra that is now nearly 8 years old, and a 2004 Elantra. The 2001 is owned by my sister now. She loves it and says it still drives and looks like new. And it has been very reliable. My 2004 Elantra also drives and looks new, and the biggest problem it's had in over 4 years is that I had to replace the headlamp bulbs--covered under warranty. And these Elantras are a fairly old design, not nearly as good a car as the current Sonata. Hyundais are getting better with each generation.

    The day when someone makes a car that is better than Honda has already arrived. Examples: CR's Top Pick in the economy sedan class is the Elantra, not the Civic. CR's Top Pick in the mid-sized SUV class is the Santa Fe, not the CR-V or Pilot.

    I recommend you take a close look at what you are competing with. You might be surprised.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I pretty much agree with everything you say. Nice post; well-rounded.

    And before anyone says otherwise, there are 3 Hondas in my driveway, zero Hyundais. Yet...
  • tiger72tiger72 Posts: 21
    Apples and Oranges are both relatively round fruit. They both grow on trees. They can both be squeezed to make juices.

    I find it funny that you're comparing the Elantra AND the Sonata to the Civic, whenever it suits your purpose. I also find it funny that when it comes to the engine size difference, you whitewash the argument by bringing the Accord into the mix.

    Stop comparing one mid-sized vs full-sized on full-size standards. The reason Civic owners own a Civic over the competition can't be based on full size standards (e.g. larger engine, more seating room, etc.).

    Compare the Civic to the Elantra, Corolla, and the Sentra. Not to the competitor's full sized sedans.

    And no, there is no market for Hyundais that are used or out of warranty except for teenager's first cheap cars. I almost thought about buying a Hyundai until I saw that the True Cost To Own over 5 years is thousands higher on the Hyundai thanks to its amazingly high depreciation rate.
  • moocow1moocow1 Posts: 230
    Here here backy! That dealer guy is completely clueless. My friend has a top of the line civic and it's a nice car for sure. But my sonata is just as nice and feels just as nice for the interior and driving. Also the fuel economy is only a few miles less in city and highway for a much larger car. I like Civics, but not enough to overpay for one.

    Also I'd like to mention my 2003 elantra had the BEST tco ever. I paid 12.2k OTD and was cashed out after a totalled accident for $8200 for 5 years - deductible. That's a freaking $4000 depreciation for 5 years. NO civic or corolla could ever beat that. Hell no car I know of in the entire world could beat that! I know my new sonata unfortunately won't, but I'll enjoy it nonetheless. So saying that hyundai cars have no resale value is [non-permissible content removed]. Their depreciation is higher, but not THAT much higher.

    Also I'll note my car's reliability was top notch. The only issue I ever had was a minor door seal wind noise problem. Once that was fixed, no problems in 5 years...besides my own accidents :) I hope for the same reliability in my new vehicle.

    Honda's are nice, Hyundais are just as nice. Don't spew millions of tons of propoganda here. This is not a mormon or scientology board ;)
  • moocow1moocow1 Posts: 230
    I certainly compared the civic vs sonata when I was shopping. The reason I didn't include the accord was because it was way outta my price range.

    This was on my list of cars to consider when I was shopping for the car I got a couple weeks ago:
    Honda Fit
    Honda Civic
    Mazda3
    Mitsu Lancer
    Hyundai Sonata
    Hyundai Elantra
    Suby Impreza

    There is on obvious thing in this...and that is the PRICE. I compare based on price and the Sonata is the same or less than a civic. As you'll note I had a definite interest in some of the Hondas, but the number of features and interior didn't compare to purchasing a Sonata. Why would we compare purely based on size? By that standard, you're saying a tiny Porsche shouldn't be compared against a large bmw 7 series if you were shopping in that market? I say bs on that :)
  • moocow1moocow1 Posts: 230
    Btw, you still sound interested in getting another Elantra. I'm just curious why you haven't stepped up to the Sonata yet. Imho it's a much nicer car. I just couldn't imagine going back to the 2008 Elantra because it was such a minor change over the 2003 model.
  • mtnman1mtnman1 Westerville, OhioPosts: 383
    I have a 2003 Sonata LX V6 that I bought new. At the time it was a bit of a risk, but I got it loaded with every single option you could get at the time and I still think I paid them about $20K. Great investment. I still get compliments about how sharp it looks. One of the suprises is I get 30 Mpg on the highway driving 70 MPH. I am a subscriber to Consumer Reports Magazine and the Online version. Looking at the Reliability ratings by CR the 2003 rates excellent in 5 of the 8 most crucial areas as well as very good for the remaining 3 areas that are rated. This is outstanding and clearly as Hyundai is quickly getting the respect that it deserves for being a top of the line quality builder of cars depreciation issues will take care of themselves. I am currently considering a new vehicle and in the running are the 2009 Sonata Limited V6, Ford Fusion SEL loaded, and the Chevy Malibu 2LT with the V6. I am not buying these cars because it's all I can afford, but because I'm practical and happen to very much like all three. I personally could never bring myself to buy a Honda. I think it's more because of the the high and mighty attitude that I get from owners of them. Maybe it's my loss, but I don't think so. I just get so tired of seeing the "me too" Honda Odssey being every 1 of 2 vehicles with there dull color selections on the road. I like to have something that excites me when I get in it. But that's what makes life interesting is variety and plenty of selection of cars to satisfy us all whatever our likes and dislikes might be. I'm happy you found joy in your Hondas. I just so happen to think Ford, Chevy, and Hyundai make vehicles that are exciting to drive and the differences in reliability are pretty much insignificant when compared to Toyota and Hondull. Please don't think I'm insulting you I just happen to believe that Hondas = Dull.
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Posts: 1,598
    The True Cost to Own figures are quite questionable.

    The purchase price assumed is not the real world. Even Edmund's True Market Value uses a different purchase price than the TCO.

    Measuring resale value against MSRP is foolish. But, I don't buy a car based on resale. I buy based upon what I get for the money. Afterall, cars are a depreciating asset, they are not an investment despite what car sales people may say.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I've never owned an Elantra, or any Hyundai for that matter. I have been driving Accords since I have been able to drive - an Elantra or Civic doesn't have enough room for me, and the Sonata's interior was a BIG turn-off when I was shopping midsizers back in Nov. 2005. I'm currently very happy with my 2006 Honda Accord EX.

    The current Elantra is a great value, but the exterior can't be described as pretty in any way. Homely is a compliment to that car!
  • lengallilengalli Posts: 3
    LOL, im glad there is actually some conversation going on here. As far as being clue-less, I know ALOT of people in the auto biz, and I can work at ANY dealership that I choose, and I CHOOSE to work at honda bc I completely believe in the product (which makes me a good sales-person). THAT alone should tell you something, but you would rather say that I am clue-less. Just so you know, I am a Honda Gold sales-consultant, (ie I hit TOP csi scores yearly, I sell ALOT of cars, and I know the product inside and out and that makes me part of less than 5% of ALL honda salespersons.) In addition to that, I have won dealership, zone and district sales competitions, walk-arounds and delivery testing done via HONDA corporate. These are things that Hyundai does NOT EVEN BOTHER to do.

    By just saying that SOME PEOPLE have to stay in budget does not make you some kind of genius. OF COURSE people have to do that, AND THAT is WHY they buy a HONDA over a Hyundai. Im NOT knocking the car but if it is SOOOOO fantastic as you say, why does it not sell anywhere near what the honda sells? Why does Hyundai finance almost ANYONE, including credit criminals, while I get the joy of "lot dropping" people who dont even deserve to own vehicles, let alone Honda's. As far as Hyundai goes, HALF the cars they sell get sold to people who DO NOT HAVE THE CREDIT SCORE to even think about BUYING A HONDA. In AMERICA, you CAN tell ALOT about someone by WHAT they are driving its just another fact of life that apparently is lost on some of you.

    If you want to buy something based solely on price, buy a hyundai or kia NOT a Honda, we dont want you!! (And you know this!!)
    If you want a "status symbol" buy a Mercedes or a BMW or an Audi, (again, WE DONT WANT YOU!) Enjoy your $100 oil changes and $1000 brake jobs ;)
    If you want to drive a wannabe mercedes buy a VW (and have it fall apart around 80-100K and not be able to get parts for it anyplace other than VW
    If you want a boring GREAT car, drive a Toyota

    If you want the BEST customer service, the best reliability, the best economy, and the best safety, buy a honda, or lease it (because HONDA's have THEE best leases, why? because AIG gives them the HIGHEST residual value of ANY MANUFACTURER IN ITS CLASS )

    Also, one more thing, I like santa fe's .. i think they are good, but its funny that I can get one for THOUSANDS UNDER invoice but yet, if you wanted a CRV you would be looking at paying sticker + and waiting for it to come in at that because they are so popular right now. Again, YOU get what you PAY for.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,715
    Stop comparing one mid-sized vs full-sized on full-size standards. The reason Civic owners own a Civic over the competition can't be based on full size standards (e.g. larger engine, more seating room, etc.).

    But you don't mind when someone compares a compact car (Civic) to a full-sized car (Sonata) based on compact-car standards (economy)?

    FYI, this discussion is all about comparing the Civic to the Sonata. If you don't think that's a good idea, there's lots of other discussions in Town Hall to choose from.

    I almost thought about buying a Hyundai until I saw that the True Cost To Own over 5 years is thousands higher on the Hyundai thanks to its amazingly high depreciation rate.

    So that means Hyundais are great buys as used cars, right? ;)

    Personally I look at the dollar depreciation vs. percentages. I can't spend a percentage. A car that costs thousands less than another is at a disadvantage when looking at depreciation percentages. Example:

    Car A: Purchase price $11,800, depreciation after 5.5 years: $5900. Depreciation rate: 50% (actually a real, personal example)

    Car B: Purchase price $16,000, depreciation after 5.5 years $6500. Depreciation rate: 41%

    Which car has the lower depreciation rate? Car B. Which car cost less to own, in terms of depreciation, after 5.5. years? Car A. And those numbers don't include the opportunity cost associated with the $4800 extra (not including taxes) paid up front for Car B. For example, interest earned by investing the difference, or interest avoided by paying off debt.

    Everything else being equal, I'll take Car A. And I did. :)
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,715
    In AMERICA, you CAN tell ALOT about someone by WHAT they are driving its just another fact of life that apparently is lost on some of you.

    Uh... yeah, right. Which Honda dealer do you work for? I'd like to avoid it if possible when I am shopping for my next car.

    Can we stick to facts and reality here, rather than some Honda salesperson's fantasyland? Please?? Versus bunk like this:

    if you wanted a CRV you would be looking at paying sticker + and waiting for it to come in at that because they are so popular right now.

    Here's some recent posts from the CR-V Prices Paid and Buying Experience discussion:

    7084: I was at Schaumburg Honda in Illinois last night and was quoted any CR-V at invoice.

    7091: Just started getting some e-mail quotes for a '08 2WD CRV EX around the Los Angeles area. The range has been from 280 below to 500 over invoice + TTL.

    7099: ...I headed there [Honda Barn near Boston] and got a CR-V LX for $75 under invoice ($20800 + $125 doc fee).
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,992
    First he says he's a Honda dealer then he is the world's greatest Honda salesman. Don't know why he throws in CAPS all over the place---he said he was glad there was conversation but just wants to bad mouth everybody that is trying to make a logical point. Methinks the guy doth protest too much.

    Nobody likes to read drivel like that.
  • moocow1moocow1 Posts: 230
    Sorry my mistake! that was actually a question to backy. If you ever are in the market, the new sonata's interior is far better than the past, but I digress.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I have seen the new interior and it, like the Elantra, looks quite nice.

    I plan to have my current Accord for a pretty long time. My 1996 model has 181,000 miles on it and will be sold next year, leaving me the one 2006 Accord, which I hope will be around for at least that many miles. I have 33,800 miles on it now, so I have a ways to go before I'm looking again.
  • moocow1moocow1 Posts: 230
    Compared to the two hyundai salesmen I've dealt with, you must be one of the biggest sleezy jerk salesman I've ever seen. I don't believe a word you say because you haven't said a single truthful thing. All I see is propoganda, more propoganda, and more bs.

    Why would it sell less? Because it's an up and coming brand. In fact if you remember the 1980's, Honda used to sell far less than GM. Did you think honda was a worse car company back then? You gave the exact same reasons for someone to insult a honda in the past. I could say a honda is the same thing as the 1980s and still a piece of crap. Would I be telling the truth? No, because it was a good car back then and it still is now. Try reading some real reviews. Hyundai vehicles are just as good as Hondas. Hell you can read the reviews and the edmunds daily logs.

    And yes I get what I pay for. I get a great car, great safety features, great reliability, much better warranty, great interior, great crash test scores, and a cheaper price. What do you get for trying to insult other cars?

    All of us here would call Hondas good reliable cars. Heck, I'd recommend a Honda to anyone if they want one. There's zero reason to diss on a Hyundai because of their so-called image.

    One other sad thing is you keep insulting the buyers. I have a strong credit score and could easily afford a porsche or bmw, but no, I prefer getting a hyundai because it meets my needs. So I don't fit your demographic one bit.
  • moocow1moocow1 Posts: 230
    I don't think I drive quite as much as you, but I'm in the same boat. I'd like to actually keep my car over ten years :) But heck I'd be surprised if I pass 70-80k miles. Good luck on your accord, it's an awesome car too!
  • stockey1stockey1 Posts: 22
    A few years ago,i wouldn't have been caught dead in a hyundai,but since i bought one ,all i can say is wow,much better quality than american cars and as good as japanese,really i am stunned..
  • auld_dawgauld_dawg Posts: 40
    Interesting........

    So......... insulting potential future car buyers is going to bring them running to your dealership? You know, a lot of honorable things happen to folks that damage their credit scores for a part of their lives, lost jobs, divorces, etc. Calling someone a crook because their credit score isn't perfect, seems to me a bit demeaning and counter productive in sales...... However, each to his own......

    My girlfriend has a Honda Civic. And its a nice car. Small, economical..... and very practical for a commuter car. Can't knock it, for her its perfect as a commuter car and kid hauler....

    For me, I travel to blade shows a few times a year, and intend to continue doing so. I like to drive, so a midsize car makes more sense to me. I had been using a '94 Sable as my long distance transport, but for the last three years, it got bumped by an even earlier car {'93 Taurus SHO}. More comfortable car, and believe it or not, better mileage on the road {32 mpg, highway}.

    Older cars, are just that, older cars. They eventually develop issues, need replacement. So, this fall, I paid off some machinery {$3600/mo}, and as spring approached started shopping to replace the Sable........ as it had reached the end. I never looked at a Civic, not because its a not good car, its just a bit small for me for a road car. I did however, research the Accords. As a dealer, I'm sure you know that there's a bit of an issue on the VCM, and even though reports are really good on the four, I really would find it hard to go with a whole lot less car than the SHO.

    The '07 Taurus I looked at was a lot less car than I was replacing {body roll, rear drums}. I looked at both Milan and Fusion..... and looked at the Mazda6. Then I went to the Hyundai dealer.......

    The '08 GLS V6 I got, definitely is a step up from the '94 Sable it replaced. Better than the '07 Taurus {not even close}. I won't compare it to the others, because they're all good, and a lot of this is personal judgement. I wound up really liking the Sonata, and the "value", ie, all of the features it has, plus the price, really made this purchase work......And, because the price was so good, some of the money that would have been used on the downpayment of a Mazda6 went instead to do some of the restoration work the SHO really could use {less than perfect credit, plus enough downpayment, can still get you financed}.....

    I don't really see how the Sonata can compare with the Civic really, except maybe price. Its my take on this, that both are really nice cars, really nice values, in their respective classes.......
  • moocow1moocow1 Posts: 230
    Well I'll explain how I compared then.

    Sonata Advantages:
    Better Warranty
    Better Interior
    Far more Standard Features
    More Powerful Engine

    Civic:
    Better Fuel Economy(25/36 vs 22/32)
    Moderately Better Resale(But not that important as I plan to run over 10 years)

    Push:
    Safety - Ratings are very similar and a larger car WILL protect better against death. Both are very safe vehicles.
    Size - Sonata is larger, which means more space and trunkroom, but also means harder to park. I guess most people would consider bigger to be better assuming same fuel economy, I actually don't.
    Reliability - Hyundai's problems per car is about the same as Honda now.
    Looks - Who knows? I like both actually. The new 2006 civic design was an awesome thing.
    Price - About the same OTD for comparable models. In this case I'm comparing a Civic LX vs Sonata GLS.
    Environment - Both are PZEV cars. Which is awesome for a large car to get PZEV rating!

    I know some people shop purely based on size of car, but I actually don't care for size as I mentioned. I prefer a moderately small car if possible...but I ended up buying bigger because it was just plain better. It would be much harder when comparing the Accord, but the Accord freaking costs $4000+ more.
  • hickorychickoryc Posts: 25
    I agree with everything you wrote moocow1, plus there is the matter of driver comfort and vehicle ride. Coworker with '07 Civic switched to '08 Altima simply because of the stiff, uncomfortable ride. His daily round-trip commute, like mine is nearly 100 miles. He is not getting very close to 30 mpg in his new Altima and that is costly compared to the Civic, but worth it to him.
  • redflearedflea Posts: 16
    This is an entertaining, albeit somewhat silly thread. Thanks for all the impassioned posts...quite a show. :-)

    Maybe someone can start a thread comparing a can opener and a roast beef sandwhich next. They are both found in the kitchen, cost about the same, and are useful around lunch time. ;-) Which would you buy?!?!

    We were talked into test driving a Sonata when we told the Hyundai salesman that the booming acceleration engine noise in the Elantra was a deal-breaker. We came back after the test drive and said "Thanks, not for us." We weren't shopping for a large-ish, full featured but unexciting-to-drive family sedan, we were shopping for a small-ish, fun-to-drive, high-MPG sporty sedan. The only thing these two cars have in common is some price overlap (depending on model) from what we experienced.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    It's okay if people want to compare cars that do not seem to you to be comparable. People have differing criteria and priorities. That does not make their choices "silly", it makes their choices "theirs" just as your criteria, priorities and choices are yours. :)
  • 2002slt2002slt Posts: 228
    It was very easy for me to decide. I'm 6' 4" and could barely squeeze into a Civic. I was just looking for a daily driver to offset my SUV's fuel consumption, so I was looking at the low end. After a month of driving everything under $20k, I thought it may be more practical to just replace the SUV. ;)

    I drove the new Accord and Camry. I liked the drive of the Accord, but again, I felt squeezed in the driver's seat. The Camry fit me very well and I would have bought it if it wasn't for their low-ball offer on my trade. Then, on a recommendation, I looked into the 2009 Sonata. I had the mindset that Hyundai's were junk, but gave them a shot anyways. Boy, was I surprised. The interior is better looking than the Accord's, the Camry wasn't even close to the Accord. The drive was in between the two. Not too soft and not too stiff. I'm coming from a 400hp SUV, so I had to go with a V6. All three are very similar in MPG's and acceleration. They all actually surprised me.

    Hyundai offered me almost $3k more for my trade and invoice on the Sonata. Both the Accord and Camry were offered to me at invoice price, too. I guess everyone's hurting right now. I jumped on the deal and can't believe how happy I am.

    I also see the price as the ONLY comparison between the Civic and the Sonata. They were designed for two totally different purposes.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    For some people, buying a car IS a price purchase; "What can I get for $XX,XXX?"

    For others, like yourself, its not.

    You must be a big broad guy. I'm 6'5" and drive 2 older Accords, one with a moonroof, and have plenty of room; not Yukon room, but plenty.

    The Civic and Sonata are very different cars though, you are right. Civic - small, efficient, sporty. Sonata - big, more powerful, cushy.
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