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Matrix Transmission Problems

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  • labambalabamba Posts: 3
    2004 xrs clutch went out at 4,000 miles, toyota paid. clutch went out again at 23,000 miles, toyota said I ride the clutch and I had to pay. 27,000 miles today and the clutch is slipping. The car is a piece of crap. I had a 92 Honda Civic si Hatchback 5 speed with 320,000 of MY miles on it and replaced that clutch once!!! SUDDENLY I CAN'T DRIVE A STICK! Toyota says that I am the only one they ever heard of with this problem. The clutch is under engineered and there is NO class action lawsuit that I know of. OUCH WHAT A FEELING! Should have bought a Honda!
  • labambalabamba Posts: 3
    This is for Canadians! I can't even get lemon law action since I live in a different state from where I bought this piece of JUNK. I just tried to trade it in today and guess what, IT'S WORTH NOTHING!
  • handershanders Posts: 1
    I have a 2004 XRS manual six speed and my clutch is slipping. Dealership says that it is normal wear and tear therfore not covered by the 60K powertrain warranty. Now if it is were an automatic it would have been covered. But apparently b/c I am an idiot and don't know how to drive a stick...and being a girl....I must not be driving it right and need to cough up $1200 to have it replaced. This is crap...too many people are having the same problem...Count me in on what ever action needs to be taken. I also keep having a problem with my alignment...anyone out there have the same issue? :confuse:
  • dave145dave145 Posts: 1
    I am considering an 08 Matrix but have read about all the problems with 03 & 04 models.

    Does anone know if the problems have been solved in later models (such as 07 or 08s)? I also don't find mention of these problems at sites other than Edmunds. Any consumer reports or other mentioning these transmission & clutch problems?

    Any help would be appreciated

    Thanks

    Dave
  • labambalabamba Posts: 3
    Hi Dave,

    I've also put in my 2 cents at matrixowners.com. The real problem is with the dealers and the company itself. They are the ones that have decided, in spite of numerous complaints, that there is no problem. Three years later and my top of the line Matrix xrs is worth less than 1/2 of what I paid for it. 27,000 miles and my 3rd clutch is slipping. I'll NEVER buy a Toyota product again! My advice, buy a Honda!

    Good luck
  • i have 2003 5 speed with 180 k
    the main bearing is going getting louder daily
    did anybody have any luck with toyota with this problem
  • ok...here is an update..i took my car into a mechanic and he swears it is not the transmission...so i agreed to let him take it apart. Turns out it is a clutch throw bearing?? haven't received the final bill yet however i will keep everyone up to date. considering it is about 10-12 hours to get the transmission in and out I don't anticipate that it will be an inexpensive repair but still less expensive then 1800-3000 which is the quotes that I was previously getting. There is no doubt a defect on this transmission and I believe that this problem has caused my clutch to wear prematurely. As another side, I had a seized caliper on my matrix just the other day. You can get a rebuilt caliper from NAPA cost is $80.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    The clutch throw out bearing, normally only becomes engaged and spinning when your depress the clutch pedal. The face of the bearing is what actually presses against the fingers of the pressure plate, which when the fingers are pressed release the grip on the clutch plate (allowing the clutch plate which is connected to main shaft of the transmission to stop spinning).

    Normally when there are throw out bearing failures, you'll find that the driver rests their foot on the clutch (thereby keeping the bearing spinning), or the clutch is improperly adjusted and the bearing doesn't release far enough away from the pressure plate.

    That's a cheaper and easier parts fix compared to a transmission bearing where you have to take the transmission actually apart. In this case, you just are unbolting the transmission from the engine. The throwout bearing and clutch are in between the engine and transmission.
  • Updated to the 2003 matrix with transmission problems. It turns out it was the main bearing just as with all of the other people that have made the claim here. It was not the clutch throw bearings after all :( Bottom line is that I needed a completely rebuilt tranny due to the main bearing failure. The Mr. Transmission that ended up doing the repair said that he is working on these quite often. There was a Pontiac Vibe in the shop while I was there with the same problem. Makes you say hmmm....oh and btw there is an updated kit for the transmission, not sure if that means that there was a problem identified and it has since been fixed or what?
  • With less than 100,000 miles on my 5 speed manual, I began hearing a funny noise in June. I ignored it thinking it was a fan and wanted to see what would come of it. Yesterday, Sept. 27, 2007, my car suddenly hardly made it to work. I dropped it off at the mechanic and had him take me to work. Guess what? Yup, to my shock and surprise, it's the transmission. I thought I had a reliable car and how often to manual's have transmission problems???? My wife is due to have a baby this next week. Great timing. Thanks Toyota for going cheap on something that is so important. Next time cut cost on windshield wipers. They're easier to replace. Until I can get it fixed, I'm grinding my bearings and I can't shift into 2nd anymore. Please, somebody offer some advice. I'd be in on the lawsuit, just tell me what I need to do.
    - tbrane
  • New transmission required, changed fluid at 75 k. Made sure we used synthetic 75w90 just to be on the safe side. Mostly highway driven to 170 k. Compared to the other complainants we were lucky. Started making sounds except when clutch was depressed. Cost quoted by Toyota $3995 plus tax to replace it. They said they never heard of this problem. We need a lawyer. I used to swear by these cars, had many with a standard and not even need a clutch change, the Celica up to 450 k. If they don't do something to alleviate this, our family will never buy a Toyota again.
  • The cost for my transmission rebuild at mr. transmission was 1295...had to pay someone to remove it and install it which was another 450...Total cost including taxes was $2,000. Complete overhaul. My transmission guy had 2 other pontiac vibes he was working on! this is definitely a defective transmission. It is a defective bearing from Japan. The rebuild kit is updated so if you get it fixed it probably won't happen again???fingers crossed! oh, BTW, quote in the US for a complete rebuild was only 2900???
  • I just picked up my 2004 matrix from my local garage. They heard the noises it made and decided that it was something major from the transmission. I was shocked to hear that there was something significant from a manual transmission other than the clutch. So I browsed this forum and was equally as shocked to read of so many problems with the tranny. I called the shop back to see if they can replace the tranny with a newer used model (2005-2007)if they can find one. Does any one know if the problems have been resolved for the later years or if I can even replace my 2004 with a 2005 or 2006 transmission?
  • I just wanted to note that I visited this forum about 2 months ago when I first started hearing the noises from the transmission. There were a lot of talk about a pully tensioner and loose alternator pullies that people thought was making a lot of rattling and grinding noises from the engine compartment. I am willing to bet that they are actually having problems with their transmissions and that this really is a defective product from the invincible Toyota! Unfortunately unless there is a safety issue, I don't think we are going to get lucky with a recall.
  • tbranetbrane Posts: 2
    I called Toyota and pretty much got nowhere. They said that they haven't heard any complaints. However, I told him about all the complaints that I've read about on this message board. I would encourage everyone to call Toyota, even if you have already done it and make them write up a case report. If we get enough complaints, then they will either recall the transmissions or could reimburse us if we've had to get it fixed already. We should keep calling every week and bug them. If enough people bug them, they may decide to listen. It certainly can't hurt. In the meantime, my 2003 matrix is at shop. :cry:
  • jarviejarvie Posts: 1
    My mechanic told me that the growl from my 2003 Matrix XR at 132,000km was a transmission bearing. After finding out through these posts that 2003 and 2004 Matrix do indeed have a problem, I found out from a Toyota mechanic that the bearings had been upgraded on 2005 models onwards. Armed with a printout of these posts, my service records stating that the fluid had been changed per the service manual, and the information on the upgraded bearings, I visited the Toyota dealer where I bought the car 5 years ago. After some (pleasant) discussions with the owner, and a few delays while Toyota head office got back to them, they agreed to rebuild the transmission for free, as a goodwill gesture. I have no idea how they did it, no idea who paid for it, all I know is that I now have a good vehicle. Oh, and the dealer recommended a new clutch, which he supplied and installed at his cost of $275 CDN plus tax. And I have to say the dealership owner was really helpful, offering me a good trade-in value and a good price if I had decided to trade in the Matrix for another vehicle. In my opinion, while the transmission should not have failed at 132,000km, I am very obviously very pleased with the outcome, especially the way the dealership treated me. All I can say is, here's a story with a happy ending, please feel free to use this as a precedent with Toyota and get them to do the same thing for you! Good luck!!
  • marjomarjo Posts: 28
    I just had my manaul transmission completely fail halfway home from Boston to Halifax. The car had to be towed back to Canada and left at a Toyota dealer in Fredericton. Needs a new transmission due to a failed bearing. It's 5.5y old with 80K. I serviced it on schedule at Toyota and they have only agreed to cover 60%. Is the new transmission they put in going to be like those in the 2005 and later or the same junk it originally had? I am planning to sell asap if anyone wants it! They did not offer me a good trade-in value, only about half what it should be worth.
    Should I buy a Nissan Versa or Toyota Fit or try the newer Matrix??
  • The manual transmission just went out on my Matrix yesterday. The car has less than 60.000 miles, so this should be covered by the powertrain warranty, correct?
  • marjomarjo Posts: 28
    Should be, especially if less than 5y old. They should put in a new transmission, but unfortunately it will be exactly the same design as the first one. I'm selling my car because I think it could fail again in 5y and only got 12mth warranty on the new transmission.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    Not sure that it necessarily has to be a "new" transmission. You may end up with a Toyota factory rebuilt unit.
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