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Nissan Maxima vs. Honda Accord

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  • My mind is made up, I'll buy the Maxima. First deal is 23,900 for the SE with Comfort and convenience pkg, splash guards, microfilter, wind deflector. This is my price without any bargaining. TMV is 24,073. I told him I would be back after I research and he seemed fine with that. Any tips on my next move would be appreciated. Vanessa
  • fchirichfchirich Posts: 1
    I would appreciate further info on your quest for a "good deal" on the SE .I am in the same quandary as you. I definitely like the car and would like a good price and as far as I can see the 23900 for this vehic. with the options you listed, appears to be good. Please let me know further developments in your negotiations. Jerry
  • jimxojimxo Posts: 423
    Invoice on my Maxima was 23,500, I paid a few hundred over that. I took a friend of mine back to the same Dealer to purchase his. He paid invoice for the car, I assume they had some dealer cash incentive at the time to sell a 2001 Max at invoice. I checked the internet and could not find any regional or national programs at that time (Oct 2000). My dealer was JK Nissan in Downers Grove, IL. Your price seems very close to invoice. Good Luck!
  • I posted a few days ago...but who knows where it went to. As you can see I'm new to the board. I have someone going to an auction for me to get a 97/98 Maxima SE fully loaded. He's quoted ma a price of around $18,900 for this car with roughly anywhere between 23,000-50,000 miles give or take. First question: Is there any major issues with either of these years that anyone could tell me of. Second: Am I getting a deal here? Third: Standard or Automatic? I drive both but understand the resale value is better for a stick. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks! :)
  • ny972213ny972213 Posts: 7
    Vanessa,
    I recently purchased a 2001 SE for 23700(including comfort and convenience, microfilter, mats, wind deflector, and destination). A $500 factory to dealer was applied(don't know if this still in effect).
    Good Luck!
    Joe
  • al57al57 Posts: 67
    I own a 2000 max se with comfort and convenience, and other minor options.. has anyone tried to find a reasonable costing 225/50R17 tire as replacement... Mine came with bridge stone RE92..who else offers this size?????
  • sebbsebb Posts: 16
    Hey all,
    Just got our new 2001 Maxima SE this weekend. Comfort & Convenience, Meridian Edition, Bose, Leather (Love those heated seats here in the Dakotas!) Microfilter...basically every option you can get except for the 6-disc changer.

    What a beauty of a car. Sticker on ours was 30,060 and we paid 26,300. A few hundred under invoice.

    To those looking for good deals...I have done a TON of research in the past months on the MAX, and it seems everyone is paying invoice +/- a few hundred dollars. Keep pressing till you get it. We had to walk out on the business manager once...but sure enough the next morning the phone was ringing with our price.

    We drove Accord and Max and there just is no comparison. Even the fully loaded Honda is a far cry from the Max SE. The 17" tires are sooooo nice.
  • On the brochure I have for the 2001 Maxima, it says the top speed for the 20th ann. SE is 143 mph, but the picture of the speedometer scale goes up to 160 mph. Who's gotten up that high? I know you do when you're by yourself so don't even fake it. Can anyone tell by their keen driving senses whether the speed is electronically limited to 143 mph or if it simply cannot get much faster than 143 mph? Why would they tease people by putting that scale on the speedometer if they cannot get there? Does anyone know if it's possible to get one of those 260 something hp Maxi engines in a '97? Just curious.

    Now my other question. I just bought my 97 at the beginning of the year and a single disc CD player was on the features list. However, all the buttons are labelled with the changer controls as well. So I want to be sure that I don't have a changer that I don't know how to use, as the manual is totally useless in the section designated specifically for models equipped with CD changers. So, for those with changers in their previous generation Maximas (or the current generation if the changer is the same or quite similar), how do you load your CD's? In what order do you do what? So am I an idiot with a changer or am I doing everything right and I just don't have a changer?
  • 96_i30_5sp96_i30_5sp Posts: 127
    Found an incredible deal today that I couldn't pass up. At an unlikely place (Ford dealer) there stood a fresh trade-in sherwood green 2000 SE 5spd with only 9500mi and all options (C&C, bose, leather, cd changer) except the Meridian package but I don't care about heated seats in SE Texas. :) Anyway, I got it for only $17,500+TTL!
  • Are you sure there is nothing wrong with that car? How many miles are on it? Have you had it thoroughly examined?? I wish I could have gotten your deal.
  • sebbsebb Posts: 16
    YEah, that is a _hell_ of a deal. There is a 2000 SE Sherwood Green on our local Nissan dealer lot with about 15K miles and it is 22,000 bucks. Same options as you describe. Make sure the thing hasn't been wrecked. Otherwise...ENJOY!!!!
  • sergeymsergeym Posts: 262
    I own 1998 SE auto 30 K with all options including heated seats and side air bags. The best trade-in offer I was able to get for the car is 15K. Retail should be no more than 17 - 17.5 for a loaded 98. In NYC area resale values are much lower for a stick, in your area it may be a different story. The only sedan that has higher retail with a stick is BMW 540. I did not have any problem with my car except brakes giving up at 22K. Hope it helps
  • 96_i30_5sp96_i30_5sp Posts: 127
    I took it today to the local Nissan for an oil change and tire rotation/balance. They looked at it underneath, everywhere, the car has never had any warranty work according to Nissan. Of course, it's never been in an accident too. I'm so happy! :) The Ford people showed me their paperwork on the trade-in, they gave the previous owner $16800 so they were happy to make $700 profit from me. I didn't mind it since the car was bargain-priced to begin with.
  • sysadbsysadb Posts: 83
    Cargirl12,

    While there are no specific reliability issues to worry about, any car can have a problem. The person buying this car at auction (with your authorization, I presume) sounds like the sole assessor of this vehicle, determining both condition and value. Should there be multiple bidders the value equation will take care of itself - bidding itself determines value.
    But you didn't say what your relationship to the buyer (bidder) is. Is the auction private (dealer), or public? Is he telling you the car will be approx. $18.9k regardless of what he buys it for? These are important factors. The difference between 23k miles and 50k miles on a 98 car is huge. I surely wouldn't want to pay the same amount for cars with that variance in milage. As for the 5-speed, the resale isn't greater.
    Buying cars at auction can be risky, since you don't have the opportunity to check the car thoroughly for mechanical defects, but by and large you can get good value for your selection. I would try to find a 98 with warranty left if possible - just in case there is a hidden problem..That means under 36k miles on the odometer and under three years from the service date (Nissan's warranty). If the warranty book is in the car it should note when the car was put in service.
    But $18.9k for a 98 with 50k miles is high for an auction. Wholesale is well below that. Think of the milage this way. If the car had only 23k miles on it you would be able to drive it 27k more miles before it was an equivalent car to the one with 50k miles. That's two years driving to some people. If someone keeps their car for 300k miles then it doesn't mean so much, but the market says that the car with 23k miles is worth $1500-2000 more. Good luck.

    Denny
  • ny972213ny972213 Posts: 7
    If you're looking to save a couple of thousand, go with the accord.
    If you're looking for a real driving machine, go with the Maxima.
    Test drive both. If you don't realize a difference, then buy the Honda and get yourself checked out.I was set on buying a Honda until I test drove the Maxima. End of story.
  • On the brochure I have for the 2001 Maxima, it says the top speed for the 20th ann. SE is 143 mph, but the picture of the speedometer scale goes up to 160 mph. Who's gotten up that high? I know you do when you're by yourself so don't even fake it. Can anyone tell by their keen driving senses whether the speed is electronically limited to 143 mph or if it simply cannot get much faster than 143 mph? Why would they tease people by putting that scale on the speedometer if they cannot get there? Does anyone know if it's possible to get one of those 260 something hp Maxi engines in a '97? Just curious.

    Now my other question. I just bought my 97 at the beginning of the year and a single disc CD player was on the features list. However, all the buttons are labeled with the changer controls as well. So I want to be sure that I don't have a changer that I don't know how to use, as the manual is totally useless in the section designated specifically for models equipped with CD changers. So, for those with changers in their previous generation Maximas (or the current generation if the changer is the same or quite similar), how do you load your CD's? In what order do you do what? So am I an idiot with a changer or am I doing everything right and I just don't have a changer?
  • edwardsa1edwardsa1 Posts: 34
    I have a 2001 Max SE. I know two people who have driven them over 120 and they both claim the car has a limiter at ~127 MPH, although the magazines have said 143.

    I imagine the reason the speedo reads 160 is just to make it look more impressive to the casual onlooker.
  • prinjaprinja Posts: 2
    Why are all the Maximas I looked at automatics ? Am I the only one who would rather have a stick? Does anyone have some advice on how I should proceed to get one and still get a deal? So far I got a deal for 23,900 for the SE automatic with Comfort and Convenience and a few other minor goodies.
    Mike from South Jersey
  • jdimottajdimotta Posts: 55
    Has anyone purchased a SE special edition and if so are they giving good deals on them as well??..like the regular SE's?...Would like anyones in put on that...Also has anyone seen this car in the new Majestic Blue color??...Thanks...Joe D.
  • edwardsa1edwardsa1 Posts: 34
    I have a 5-speed on my 2001 Max SE, and indeed the availability of the stick was a big player in my choice of car. If anything your desire for a stick should help you get a better deal, as they tend not to sell well. Mine had to be transported from out of state, but I still got a very good price.
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