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Pontiac Grand Prix GXP 2006

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  • justgreat47justgreat47 Posts: 100
    yep...i would agree with that assessment...i am older and the comfort level is of prime consideration. fwd versus rwd is a non issue with me...they both have their attributes and their negatives...since size of the overall package inside and out are important to me, i try to look at all comers. another plus for the gxp over the avalon would be the handling....BUT, after seeing the pictures of those beautiful rims and the red calipers,i just KNOW i would be down there on my hands and knees cleaning the xxxx out of them constantly...that is a drawback to me....see, i told you i'm older.

    i have always liked the grand prix for being a decent compromise between a nice ride and decent handling...l like it a bunch more since they put the small block (in aluminum, no less!!) in it. jackg 90seville 97k
  • ocmike3ocmike3 Posts: 232
    AutoWeek Mag (May 30th edition) had a GP GXP for a week. They have a couple of their driver's opinions on page 11. Typical comments on the interior ("mixed bag") and both would chose the GTO over the GTP since they are close at MSRP. One compared it with an Altima SE-R he drove back-to-back with the GXP. He thought the GXP would be "more satisfying" over the long haul. I'd have to agree with him on driving the GTO over the GXP - but if you got wife and kids and dog - the GXP might be the closet sleeper of the neighborhood.
    Checkout the link in a few days and see if it is posted.
    http://www.autoweek.com/department.cms?departmentId=13
  • etcbetcb Posts: 42
    Rides much smoother than the 04 GTP I traded. Better overall Quality . $3,500 Rebate!
    Cons: None so far! In case anyone is wondering the V8 will take regular gas.

    The car has plently of power and handles like a dream. I can't image paying big $ for a BMW for the same if not better performance. Plus my GXP has more class! Pontiac made improvements to the O5 model that make it even better! I'm glad about the dual climate control, remote start and quite and smoother ride. The GXP is wider and handles like dream!. The V8 purrs and has power to spare. I highly recommend it! Go test dive and and the only thing left to think about is the color! Great job Pontiac!
  • ocmike3ocmike3 Posts: 232
    okay - so for those of us still waiting for a local dealer to get one - What color did you get?
  • etcbetcb Posts: 42
    Black with Grey leather/suede interior and HUD. Oh yea. Unlike the GTO there wasn't a 2,300 gas guzzler tax!
  • hammen2hammen2 Posts: 1,313
    Gas guzzler tax on an automatic '05 GTO is $1300, not $2300 (was $1000 on the '04's - and note that there's no guzzler tax on the stick GTO, but that's a $695 option compared to the auto).
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    They are changing the packages on the '06 model and adding chrome interior trim. I am curious to see what that will look like.
  • brianr1brianr1 Posts: 19
    Just picked up my Greystone GXP this past Sat. Had to drive from Austin to Dallas through heavy rain to go and get it.

    Got a surprise when I looked for the doughnut spare and found the can of fix-a-flat and compressor. My speakers also hiss (like static from a blank radio station) when there is no power, like when I just open the door and the lights come on. Last for about 10 seconds and is just barely audible. Any ideas.

    Anyone have the 5.3L V8 engine specs? Just wanted to see the numbers especially compression since it is suggested to use 91 octane and 5.3L V8 of past SUV's/trucks get away with 87 for about the same HP.

    Anyone have any suggestions on a suede cleaner and protector? All the leather products specifically say not to use on suede. Any suggestions on other products would be appreciated. As a previous owner of a 97 GTP and former reader of Grandprix.net mailing list, I've used Zaino Bros for the past 8 years. Might be looking to make a switch to something without that many steps.
  • etcbetcb Posts: 42
    Congrats on your new GXP. I almost went for another Greystone but it had the navigation package that I didn't want. The owners manual has the answers to your questions. The V8 will run on regular gas but high octane is recommended for top performance. The suede can be cleaned with warm water and mild dishwashing soap. I regards to your radio, your car is under warranty so your dealer should fix it. Does anyone know the V8 hp? Some say 290 and Pontiac sales says 303?
  • etcbetcb Posts: 42
    ANAHEIM, Calif. - Pontiac announced production plans for the 2005 Grand Prix GXP - a high-performance sedan equipped with more refined interior appointments, distinctive exterior appearance, sport-tuned suspension and a new 5.3-liter LS4 V-8 engine producing an estimated 303 horsepower. The all-aluminum LS4 is based on the Gen IV small-block architecture, but is modified to accommodate the "east-west" mounting position of the Grand Prix's front-wheel-drive chassis. To fit the "sideways" positioning in the Grand Prix, several changes were made to reduce the engine's overall length, including the use of a shorter crankshaft and a single-belt accessory drive system.

    Other LS4 features include:
    Aluminum engine block with cross-bolted main bearing caps
    Aluminum high-flow cylinder heads similar to the 6.0-liter LS2 V8
    Full-floating pistons
    Lightweight, three-piece friction-welded composite intake manifold
    10:1 compression ratio for fuel-efficient performance
    Unique camshaft designed to accommodate DOD technology
    Electronic throttle control integrated with new engine controller
    GM Oil Life System to minimize required oil changes
    Iridium-tipped spark plugs for 100,000 mile service

    Quick reflexes
    Complementing the torque and horsepower of the LS4 V-8 is a revamped suspension that takes the Grand Prix GXP's road feel to a more responsive level. Bilstein gas-charged struts provide precise damping control and higher rate springs help improve the driver's connection to the road. A ride height reduction of approximately 9 mm and a new 17.2-mm hollow rear stabilizer bar help the GXP negotiate turns with less body roll.
  • brianr1brianr1 Posts: 19
    Thanks for your replies - Here's another question:

    Top speed for the GXP? Either estimated or actual or if its limited. W-rated tires have max at 168, but I think GM would have limited the speed before that max.
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,505
    “GM is making everyone in the country eligible for GMS pricing. We've never seen anything like it and anticipate cars to fly out of here.”

    - From an email from a local dealer.

    What exactly does this mean – I presume this means GM Supplier pricing????

    Thanks,
    - Ray
    Not familiar with GMS pricing . . .
  • hammen2hammen2 Posts: 1,313
    ...GM employee pricing.

    Of course, the new incentives are significantly less than they used to be. And, GMAC interest rates are up. So, this may not be the screaming deal everyone thinks it is. Depends on the car and how overstocked GM is (trucks/SUV's are probably still pretty well discounted since they seem to be the things not moving).

    --Robert
  • bigdaddycoatsbigdaddycoats Posts: 1,058
    according to here -

    http://www.gm.com/employeediscount.do?brandId=ld&mode=byModel#

    a GP GXP at $29,995 will cost $24,696.48. Not bad.
  • brianr1brianr1 Posts: 19
    I think that includes all the rebates. I checked against their example cars (Saab wagon models) and the prices are just $800 under invoice.

    I think the new rebate on the GXP is $2,000 so the price is $26,696 compared to invoice at $27,502.

    For my GXP with MSRP of $33,395 (30,530 invoice) minus the $3,500 in rebates, I was quoted $27,198 or $27,698 with the national advertising fee. It seems some dealers have the fee listed on the invoice and others don't. Anyway, due to the change in the rebate, the prices almost work to be the same.
  • bigdaddycoatsbigdaddycoats Posts: 1,058
    If you use the link I provided, I do not think that includes rebates. Go through other models and usually the discount is around 10-13% off sticker. Prices for the GP seem to be much lower (percentage wise) than most other vehicles.
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,505
    “Anyway, due to the change in the rebate, the prices almost work to be the same. “

    For some (including me) the rebate was $2,500 (Southeast).

    So with $2,000 reduction from GMS, without negotiation = better.

    For those where the previous rebate was $3,500, no so much . . .

    Another Internet contacted me with a quote approx. $1,800 better than his previous offer.

    Thanks,
    - Ray
    Wondering if GM actually expects this sort of initiative to “same the day” . . .
  • brianr1brianr1 Posts: 19
    According to the news article in GM.com, the price includes all available incentives and rebates. I guess if you want to get a good price on a car, it's good to live in truck country. Of course, I never saw a GXP (or a comp G) before I went to buy mine.
  • etcbetcb Posts: 42
    I bought my first GP at GMS. GMS is stock price. Meaning the car must be on the lot or "in stock". GMO price applies if you order one. The GMO price is slightly higher than GMS. All manf. rebates apply on top of the GMS discount. For example-

    GMS= 28,000 + 3500.00( mfg.rebate) = 24500.00.

    The best thing about using GMS (if your lucky enough to belong to GM Friends and Family ) is that its no haggle which makes for a pleasant sales experience.

    I got bent over on my latest buy because of 2 factors. I was upside down in my 04 GTP and I no longer qualified for GMS. Oh well, I prefer the GXP and hope to have it for a long time!
  • hammen2hammen2 Posts: 1,313
    Actually, there is no such thing as "GMO" any longer. You can order a car, but the price doesn't get any better than GMS.

    --Robert
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,505
    I have heard (read) 2 different answers:

    1 – there is a limiter – at 155.

    2 – there is no limiter, but there are warnings displayed in the HUD – and any extended running at such high speed may result in engine oil / trans. fluid exceeding thresholds that will result in (save the driveline) shutdown . .

    - from typically reliable sources.

    Either would work fine for me.
    The (somewhat) theoretical top speed at 6,000 rpm in third gear is approx. 154.5 mph.
    The (even more) theoretical top speed at 6,000 rpm in fourth gear would be approx. 217.
    - Ray
    Never having exceeded 155 – in a car. . .
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,505
    From GMBuypower this AM:

    GM Employee Discount Price for 2005 Pontiac Grand Prix
    (Select a different vehicle)

    Selected Style: GXP
    VIN: 2G2WC54C751340751
    MSRP: $33,395.00
    GM Employee Discount Price: (approx.) $27,636.98 †(Details)
    (after applicable incentives)

    There is also now a ‘button’ (just above where there has been ‘Window Sticker’ & ‘Request a Quote’ buttons) that says: ‘Get GM Employee Discount Price.’

    Note that it shows GMS price less the $2,000 current rebate.

    - Ray
    Thinking at this price, resistance is futile . . .
  • dlucas86dlucas86 Posts: 4
    I just bought a Graystone Metallic GXP and will be picking it up on Wed, June 8. I lucked out because it did NOT have the 2300 DVD navigation in it (which I didn't want), but did have a sunroof, MP3 CD, remote start and all the other goodies I wanted. It listed for 32,525 and I paid 26,888 after GMS and the 2000 dollar rebate. I was going to wait for an 06, but I couldn't resist at these prices. I don't think there is another car out there right now that is a better value - 303 HP, 0-60 in under 6 seconds, 28MPG on the highway, 16 cu ft of trunk space, and generous legroom under 27K. I'd be happy to answer any questions after
    I pick it up.
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,505
    "be happy to answer any questions after
    I pick it up. "

    1 - Congrats - and Best of luck!
    2 - If you have XM (I see you have a sunroof) would you please remove the antenna 'head' and let me know if this causes a SIGNIFICANT increase in wind noise with the sunroof in 'Vent'?
    (Dealer I went to last night kept it in plastic in the glovebox - due to recent thefts!)
    Thanks,
    - Ray
    Not making much progress in negotiations . .
  • bigdaddycoatsbigdaddycoats Posts: 1,058
    Negotiations? Price is set with everyone getting employee discount. What else is there to deal??
  • brianr1brianr1 Posts: 19
    Congrats also to a fellow Greystone owner. This will probably be a very rare color since it isn't available in 06.

    Ray-
    I have XM and don't quite understand what you mean. The removable antenna head that the dealer had in plastic which I screwed in on the front of the roof line is for Onstar so everyone will have the short antenna. XM has a block antenna on the back of the roof line which I don't believe can be removed unless you plug the hole in the roof with something.
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,505
    "What else is there to deal?? "

    Agreed that GMS sets a (maximum) price.
    Basically trade in value and doc fee ($75 pre GMS or typical $300+).
    - Ray
    Wanting all I can get for as little outlay as possible ( = cheap?)
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,505
    "Ray-
    I have XM and don't quite understand what you mean. The removable antenna head that the dealer had in plastic which I screwed in on the front of the roof line is for Onstar"

    Aha.
    I was mis-informed by the salesperson.
    I have never had a car with either OnStar or XM.
    Sorry. . . And thanks for the correction!
    - Ray
    Still wondering if the noise was caused by this - or some sort of individual mis-fitting related to the sunroof as installed in this car . .
  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    Does anybody have definitive, I mean reliable, "insider" information as to what changes/deletions/additions will be on the 2006 GXP vs. the limited-run '05s?

    I've heard that the Graystone Metallic color will not be offered (strange, as it's a color that's "in-vogue" and this car looks good in it), and I've heard there will be some addition of brushed aluminum trim on the interior/dash (not sure if it's real or faux). In principle I like the idea of the addition of the brushed aluminum trim on the interior.

    Given GM's troubles of late with lagging sales, I'm fairly confident that the price on this vehicle won't be going up. In fact, based on what I've read, the sticker prices on GM vehicles may even come down to be more in line with what people are actually paying.
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