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Even if you don't buy there at least you can read some reviews on the various tires.
Given that a T rated tires is rated for sustained speeds of 118mph, I would have no worries about putting it on my 2007 Civic (my normal interstate cruising speed is 70mph). Plus, I believe that the civic has a speed governor that limits it's top speed to 125mph (according to Car and Driver magazine anyway), and what kind of nut is going to cruise at insane high engine rpms (which you'd need to be to sustain that kind of speed).
- When comparing two otherwise identical tires (i.e. same make, model and size), one with a "T" rating and one with an "H" rating, the car with the "H" tires will generally handle better while the one with the "T" rating will generally have a softer and more compliant ride.
- I've spent a lot of time in Europe, and have seen Hondas tooling along at an easy buck-thirty, and doing so all day long. FWIW, there is nothing insanely high about the RPMS that these cars are turning to achieve that kind of speed.
Best Regards,
Shipo
P.S. for one thing, don't all the European civics come with the smart-shift 6-speed manual-auto trans., and it's geared differently then even the Si 6-speed in the US? (except for the hybrid, which uses a CVT on both sides of the pond).
Maybe I'm way off base here, but I believe that the R18 engine in the DX, LX, and EX models and the K20 engine in the Si will happily turn 4500 all day long and still return reasonable fuel economy at speed. The fact is that 120 really isn't all that fast.
As for how all of this relates to tires, I believe that even here in the U.S., we drivers are obligated by law to shoe our cars with tires that at least meet the maximum governed speed of our cars. Case in point, back in the 1990s, Mercedes-Benz was suffering through a spate of complaints about the tires used on their (then) new S-Class models. Folks by the thousands (I know because I wrote the database and client side software to track the issue) were calling to complain about poor traction, rough riding and flat spotting in cold weather, and as the tire technology of the day didn't allow for manufacturing all-season tires capable of the 155 mph top speed of that car. In response, Mercedes-Benz of North America offered their customers two choices:
1) Live with it
2) Have "H" rated all season tires fitted to the can AND have the ECU reprogrammed so that the top governed speed was only 128 mph (something they would have been forced to do by law if they fitted lower speed tires)
IIRC, well over half of the folks who voiced a complaint about the tires refused to have their cars reprogrammed and in the end decided to live with the factory rubber.
Best Regards,
Shipo
I'm buying a 2001 Honda Civic Si Coupe and I need to buy winter tires. Does anyone have any suggestions? And what size does the Si take?
I would check with your neighbors to see if they find chains helpful, and how quickly they clear the roads in your area. My friend lives outside of C. Springs, and he said last winter, the snow would get so deep he wouldn't even leave the house that day until the roads are cleared. Since you have a low clearance vehicle as opposed to an SUV, your movement could be limited by that. There's also been some posts on these boards regarding Civic front bumpers being damaged by deep snow.
As for the chains, you can get a simple set for around $30. If it seems to go long periods of time there where you don't see any street pavement, I think it would be worth it. You'll certainly get much better traction and definitely worth it if you have any inclines you need to climb.
Our mileage on the highway has ALWAYS been 44-48MPG - we set the cruise at 5 mph below the limit and rarely have to change speeds -driving in Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Georgia, North Carolina (flatlands) & Florida.
I put Yokohama AVID TRZ as replacements and consistently get highway mileage of 36-40 mpg driving in all the same places.
I even added about 10% air pressure (32 to 35psi) with no recognizable benefit.
Have others had these problems? What were your actions?
Thanks,
Ernest1934
Rather than to simply dispute someone's credibility, you might consider a little time to study the rolling resistance on various tires and, additionally, the effects on gas mileage by varying your speed on the highway every time you slow down or accelerate the car to pass another. The math is fairly simple. You can make more friends that way.
I asked a question if others with Civics had experienced any similar results to mine. I can apparently assume that you have not.
I have been trying to obtain the numerical rolling resistance for the original and replacement tires without success.
However, I just talked to the Honda repair shop and they stated that they have had problems with the 06 Civic Hybrids that came with the same original tires as our non-hybrid EX when the original tires were replaced. The replacement tires have reduced the mileage 4-6 mpg. The reason, as I understood him, had something to do with the construction of the Bridgestone Turanza EL-400 and that the other tires could not compare.
I certainly believe him, especially as that came from a Honda man.
Since I believe I have verified that the loss of mpg as stated is due to the replacement tires, I will not respond further.
But anything is possible I suspect...I'm just very skeptical.
The Sandman
I even added about 10% air pressure (32 to 35psi) with no recognizable benefit.
Have others had these problems? What were your actions?
You will probably get a better response if you post your question in the
Honda Civic Real World MPG forum.
That's where the gas mileage experts hang out.
Also if you review the forum called:
Honda Civic Hybrid MPG-Real World Numbers
You will see that the tires that comes standard with the Hybrid can have a big effect on gas mileage. When the standard tires were changed to other tires of the same size, the gas mileage would decrease significantly.
So claims made by others in response to your post, that tires can not affect the gas mileage that much, are not true.
thanks!
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2225229
This has to be the reason I've always felt a thump in the back when I hit bumps. You can actually feel the rear try to swing out sometimes.
Thanks.
The Sandman
Bottom line is that Civic LX (no S) it is ... i get slap a steering wheel cover for that "Ultimate feel" for 60 dollars off ebay and I will be set!
Again thanks for your reply.. it shines some light on the whole situation.!
They did issue a recall. Either, they didn't have your current address or you haven't been checking the notices on edmunds.com. See:
http://www.houstoncars.org/recall-notice-2006-2007-honda-civic-sedans.php
And:
http://www.edmunds.com/maintenance/recalltsb.do?step=recall&year=2007&make=Honda- &model=Civic&style=Hybrid+4dr+Sedan+%281.3L+4cyl+gas%2Felectric+hybrid+CVT%29&zi- p=89012&synpartner=edmunds
Doesn't sound like most dealers would offer this kind of information voluntarily. :shades:
Brad
My 2006 Civic LX just hit 27000 mi and I had the rear upper arms replaced (Honda dealer and corporation were unwilling to cover the tire replacement b/c I was over 25000mi). At any rate, my question is:
Despite have the upper arms replaced, is this going to be a recurring issue? i,e. should I expect to replace tires every 15000-20000mi? I seem to have heard somewhere that the core issue was in the un-adjustable camber of the civics and not the arms. Any information and/or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your help!
-Craig
Hope they'll pay back something to me.
The Sandman :confuse:
My wife noticed tire noise soon after. That noise has only worsened.
The dealership gave us the runaround and finally blamed it on us.
The customer support (out of California) did nothing more than add lip service, concluding the problem was us even though I attached their service bulletin (admitting the problem) to my complaint letter.
From my engineering background, I concluded the car appears to have a design definciency. Probably has something to do with the combination of a specialized suspension and harder (low rolling resistance tires). I expect it costs less for the manufacturer to stall than correct the problem.
Prior to this, I was planning on purchasing a civic for myself. Now I won't be buying a Honda at all !
We're disappointed in Honda and disappointed in the civic.
Best guess Honda has a system design problem and are in damage control (including their reputation).
I do not believe the fix their bulletin puts in place will solve the problem either. Our car (2008 HCH) is exhibiting same behavior. Dealer says our serial number has the fix. (We're getting same runaround !)
For my part I have (and will continue) to share my disappointment (to friends, work associates and relatives ) with the car and the manufacturer as I feel motivated.