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Acura CL Transmission Problems

dkinnedkinne Posts: 1
edited February 5 in Acura
My 98 3.0CL has an transmission oil leak.
Dealer seems to be blind and says it is not leaking.
My garage floor says differently. Also, private mech also
noticed, and alerted me to the fact on last oil change.

Any body else notice "red drops from hell" ????
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  • Has anyone here had problems with their automatic transmission in the 01 or later CL S-type
  • bodydoublebodydouble Posts: 801
    I tried listening for it again this afternoon. It doesn't make that noise when the car is idling in Park. I blipped the throttle and still no noise even when it revs up a bit. But it seems to start up as soon as I put it in Reverse. Then you can hear this click clat click clat sound which will diminish in loudness and frequency over the course of, say, 2 to 3 minutes. It doesn't appear to do it in Drive but tomorrow morning I'll try by putting it in Drive first. Maybe it has something to do with the transmission. If anyone else here parks in an enclosed garage, maybe he can try it.
  • bodydoublebodydouble Posts: 801
    Listened for the noise this morning on a cold engine. Nothing in Park, nothing in Drive, and couldn't hear anything conclusive in Reverse either other than the usual "clunk" when Reverse is engaged, so maybe it's termperature-sensitive and only when the engine/transmission is hot.
  • tomer26tomer26 Posts: 1
    I have a 2001 type s which I bought in April 2000, and it has almost exactly 60,000 miles on it. Had the 60,000 service on Friday, but they missed one small item. Over the weekend, my tranny went out. Like out, high rev, no go. (Actually, it was sporadic at first, and I was able to drive it in to the dealer, but I had to turn it off and re-start to get the gears to engage) First clue was the VSA and traction warning came on and stayed on for awhile, along with the check engine light. They are replacing the transmission for free but I'm curious if anyone else has had a similar problem. PS--I still love the car.
  • jarrod4jarrod4 Posts: 3
    I drive a 2001 Chrysler Sebring coupe and I agree with the statement about quality. Actually, this is my second chrysler car. While the car has great looks, it is far from a mechanical masterpiece. The car I'd really like to see myself in is the CL-type S, but reading the problems listed here, I'm not so sure how much better the quality really is? Transmission going bye bye - COMPLETELY - at 60k!!?? Hmmm.
    We don't have an Acura dealership in my city yet, but it is coming within a year. Basically, as soon as the Acura dealer shows up, I'll be there at 8:00a.m., the fisrt Saturday it is open! IMO, the CL type-s is the best bang for the buck. Stylish interior and exterior with a VERY powerful V6. But, I really hope these tranny problems and other glitches get worked out before too long.
    Quick question for you manual, type-s owners, where abouts on the tach are you really put into your seat in first and second gears? Is it right away or is it towards the high end? Thanks.
  • More than 16,000 replaced in 2 years, ouch!
  • It's only 1.6%!! C'mon!!

    No, but seriously, this is not good publicity for Honda/Acura. It leaves me to not kick myself too hard for choosing my 02 Maxima SE over the TL-S. I almost got one, but could not justify paying $414 instead of $380 a month on 48mo lease for a car with 5 more horsepower.

    Obi
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,400
    Guys that have 5th generation Preludes are also having problems with their transmissions. The Prelude has a much lower power output (4cyl, 195hp, 156lb/ft torque) than even the base CL/TL.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • The tranny in the Prelude was a 4-speed unit though. I'm not sure it that tranny has closer ties to the Accord tranny or the TL/CL tranny.
  • garypengarypen Posts: 1,482
    They are apparently having troubles with the TL, Accord, and Odyssey trannies as well, so I would imagine it ain't just US and canadian built models.

    IIRC, the trannies on these cars (CL/TL) are made in Japan, anyway. Look at your window sticker.
  • Can anyone please share any information on those transmission problems? What in this transmission is causing these problems? Overheat, bad oil flow, fluid contamination, excessive gear wear, bad converter, bad solenoids, bad sensors, bad control-unit? Is Acura recommending anything in particular to reduce the likelihood for an early transmission failure? Thanks for your input.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I don't think Acura really knows what's causing the failures, as evidenced by the fact that quite a few people have had a replacement tranny also fail. I don't think there is anything you can realistically do to prevent failure other than maybe drive as little as possible and really drive softly. But then you might as well not have the car!
  • daqmandaqman Posts: 27
    I have a question for the board, If Acura has corrected the transmission issue for sum 02's and above, why are those of us affected by the transmission recall not getting the newer transmissions instead of reman. transmissions that are doomed to fail yet again?

    Am I the only one who thinks that is the way they should handle this matter?
  • jay238jay238 Posts: 13
    daqman, I am wondering the same thing. And then some dealers say the replacement tranny is definitely updated, while some customers just say it is rebuilt and will fail in a short while.

    It is up in the air to whether they have really fixed the tranny and installing them. They have had PLENTY OF TIME to make a reliable fix for the tranny!
  • daqmandaqman Posts: 27
    Exactly, if Acura says only older models were affected, and the newer models aren't y, not give those w/the affected vehicles the transmissions they are now putting in the late models.
  • I've contacted two Acura dealerships in my town about their 2001 Acura CL 3.2s in stock and this model’s well-known, defective transmission problem. Both dealerships have stated that their 2001 Acura CL 3.2s have new transmissions. However, I never did follow up with the question as to whether these new transmissions were temporary, stopgaps or totally redesigned transmissions that fixed the original problem.

    My worse fear is that these are rebuilt transmissions with only a 20K-30K lifespan on them before they go kaput. Besides, the 2001 Acura CL 3.2s at these two Acura dealerships have 40,000 miles (+). Yes, Acura has extended its drive train warranty to 100,000 miles. It's comforting to know at least 1 or 2 transmission failures will be covered by Acura.

    However, this is no solace for me when I'm driving 80 m.p.h. on the U.S. interstate highway system when all the sudden the car decides to shift to second gear on its own.

    To reiterate my question, all of the owners of the Acura CL/TL (1997-2003) that are having newly installed transmissions. Do these new transmissions resolve the original problem or provide a temporary stopgap till the next catastrophic transmission failure?

    Thanks for help!
  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    I don't think TL's/and CLs in the 1997 and 1998 model year were effected. The note I got said that 2001, 2002, and some 2003 TL's and CL's were effected by the faulty tranny.

    I think Honda has their tranny problem covered.
  • when the check engine light came on, the code notified that it was a problem in the transmission.
    our acura dealer replaced it with a new unit. all new, no re-build. the service manager said they don't even tear down the old tranny, just ship it back to HQ.
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