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Toyota Avalon Suspension Questions

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  • abfischabfisch Posts: 591
    TINKERGUY:

     

    DO NOT RIDE WITHOUT THEM, UNLESS YOU LIKE TO HEAR METAL TO METAL SOUNDS. Call Energy Suspension and see if they have PU bushing replacements and/or order the part from Toyota and replace when you do the struts. You will need a realignment, 4 wheel also, I suppose you know. If you want to "tinker", then order the F and R sway bar bushings and lower control arm bushing from Energy Suspension as well. Big difference in sway in cornering while changing the ride/vibration very little.

     

    abfisch
  • deepandeepan Posts: 342
    I ve started to hear noise from the front end which proably is the strut mount. The struts itself appear to be fine and the mounts also appear to be fine but the noise particularly over pot holes is noticable. any one have experince with changing these and the cost associated with these. the car has 150k kms. I couldnt think of any thing else that could be causing this.
  • petras2petras2 Posts: 104
    i had the same problem on my 98, replacement with so called modified strut mounts and alignment was around $440 US.. problem is the noise started again after about a year when warranty ran out, dealer would not help with another repair...he did say it was a "nuisance" problem and posed no safety/handling problem, also if you plan on keeping the car for a while you might want to replace the front struts, if needed, at the same time, since the labor is common to both repairs you might save some money
  • sanandtonsanandton Posts: 342
    Have a 2000 Avalon XLS with 70k miles. Since we purchased it at 46k miles it has bounced and swayed around the roads like a road barge. Had new Tokico shocks/struts installed this week and it has made a huge difference! It did cost me $400, if you plan to keep your Avalon it is a good move. Now we can ride adults in the back without fearing dragging the muffler off over speed bumps.
  • I have owned this car for around 1 1/2 years and recently noticed a strange metallic noise coming from front left suspension, while trying to make left turn only and the noise comes only on uneven road/pavement or while parking a car after making a left turn. This morning after taking the car to dealership, I was made aware of the left front strut coil spring problem(documented by Toyota) and needs replacement. Has anyone,who owns 04 avalon experienced the same problem?
  • finfin atlantaPosts: 586
    Forum member *abfisch* is the resident '04 and prior suspension expert but the struts are a well known weak spot in Avalons built prior to the '05 makeover. Replacement is the only answer. Scrolling thru many prior posts you will find brake pad problems also, along with the struts. Still a great car for the money, I'm on my second one, an '03 XL. :)
  • Dealer fixed the problem by replacing the coil spring assembly on the left front strut and the noise has stopped as of now and the ride is much smoother.
  • How's everyone doing...

    I just bought a 2006 Toyota Avalon and picked up some 20" wheels and wider tires for it. I want to drop it a few inches but can't seem to find a dealer that has a suspension kit for it. Does anyone know who I can call or a website I can get on to order?
    Also, does anyone know of a place to order a mesh grill for it?

    Thanks

    Jay Lapitan
  • abfischabfisch Posts: 591
    Jay:

    With all do respect, I think you choose the wrong car for alot of modifications, especially in the "sports mode". Putting those size tires on this car, would seem to make the ride uncomfortable if not unbearable for most. This jumps the wheel size 3" more, which would bring your sidewall serires to 40 or 35. Again, the suspension is not going to respond to those kind of tires and will set you up for an unpleasant ride or worse. I am sure your new Avalon is very nice. Hopefully you got the Touring edition if you wanted it a little more sporty. Although, there are no complete tuning kits that I know about, if you wait a couple of years, I am sure there will be aftermarket improvements like there are in the older model(mine). Look at the Tokico and KYB site for strut/dampers and Energy Suspension site for changing the rubber bushing in your suspension. Those alone will change your ride considerably without makiing it too harsh. Hopefully you don't have to drive your new Avalon in the snow.

    Good luck.

    abfisch
  • I have a 2005 XLS and like the car a lot. My one complaint: at highway speed (70-75), the card floats and bounces over rougher pavement. (This complaint has been voiced before in the Consumer Reports review.) I bought the 05 XLS rather the the Touring model (with the stiffer suspension) because I wanted the traction control and VSC, not available on the 05 Touring. My question: can the shocks be replaced (maybe with the Touring shocks) to stiffen the suspension and give the card greater stability? Or are the shocks just part of a larger problem with this too soft suspension.
  • abfischabfisch Posts: 591
    Alas:

    I was in the same situation in 02, with limited choices. Since I am not an electronics type of person, I took (with experience) the lesser, XL, and got it to the vehicle I wanted in the first place, but could or did not want to offer.

    You would have to check with aftermarket manufacuturers and see. But I am 85% sure, that the VSC and traction control, are electronically modulated and are not intergral to the dampers themselves, although there may be a place where the sensors for the VSC/TC attach to. Good aftermarkets should provide this attachment point to the outer core of the damper housing.

    That being said, again, check with the companies or Toyota itself, if you can get a straight answer. That being said again, stay away from high pressure monotube shocks for this application and use premium twin tube low pressure shocks(TokicoHP(Blue) and KYB come to mind). Koni, is coming out with an advanced strut, called the Koni FSD, but there is not application for the Toyota Solara/Camry/Avalon (all the same number unit) yet.

    I have TokicoHP's on my 02 for the past 65K and they have performed flawlessly with an excellent compromise between handling and comfort. To give you an idea, a best friend who is a car collector, stated it is much much better but he would like it still a little bit more firmer!!! Since he is a sports car enthsiast, I am relatively sure it is correct for a daily driver now.

    Good luck

    abfisch
  • 54gradsteds54gradsteds Posts: 102
    I have a '95 Avalon with 170,000 miles on the clock with original shocks/struts. I would appreciate advice on replacement, i.e., Toyota products vs good-quality after-market parts. How much should this cost?
  • abfischabfisch Posts: 591
    I have commented many time before on this. Will not subject the readers to too much this time.

    The OEM shocks are inferior. Get either TokicoHP(Blues) or KYB GR2's. These are premium Low pressure twin tube gas shocks. Much better in comfort and performance than stock without harshness.

    Shocks should be under or about $400 and installation and alignment should be another $300 to $400. Total $800. Get new strut mounts from Toyota too.

    Good luck

    abfisch
  • retiredretired Posts: 11
    Bought XLS 4/6/04 which at 5/16/06 has 24200. Been hearing scraping sound from front end for about a year now that the service dept didn't hear. Now today everyone hears scraping sound.

    Dealer tells me a service notice indicates front springs must be replaced when such sounds are heard. Yikes!

    Can anyone tell me, absent add'l information forthcoming from Toyota, what are the mechanical issues present here- design flaw, assembly issues in Kentucky, etc? May I expect future additional problems? Is this just a spring issue, or a McPhearson strut issue?

    Given Toyota's reputation for building sound autos, especially Avalons, this comes as quite as surprise, especially when the service people, who suddenly have become less polite, can't or won't tell me why front suspension springs cause such scraping sounds.
  • retiredretired Posts: 11
    Just discovered TSB:NHTSA Bulletin #:00204, Mfg date 20041202, listed on MyCarStats.com which reads: suspension: front: springs:coil springs. "The customer may hear a knock or rubbing sound from the front suspension, especially when making turns." I'm unable to obtain additional information, i.e., cause and effects full contents, without buying a subscription.

    Would appreciate any additional insight readers of this forum may provide.........

    Thanks.
  • abfischabfisch Posts: 591
    Oh..... they usually don't, that is why. For a 2004 to have the springs do anything remotely like that is, probably on the less than 1% side. More likely, with 24K on it, it is either the front brakes have something rusty on them or a premature CV joint in on its way, or though less likely. Is the noise when you apply the brakes or all the time???? Is it only over bumps or whenever the wheel is turning. Do you live in a snowy climate?? The suspension/strut mounts are also something that clunksand is prone to make noises for for such low mileage I don't think this would be high on my list either.

    abfisch
  • retiredretired Posts: 11
    Thanks abfish for responding. I'd thought I'd peke your interest when it came to front suspension matters.

    The rubbing sound is a constant that is a bit louder when I turn, and the rubbing sound started, ever so slightly, over 1 year ago, at about 9000 miles.

    So why is the local dealership telling me that the to respond to the TSB, the springs will have to be replaced to eliminate the rubbing sound.

    What's rubbing?
  • abfischabfisch Posts: 591
    They make a lowering spring kit by a company called Intrax which fits early model years Avalon's from 95-99 and 00-05. I have no experience with them, nor am I interested in applying them to my vehicle but I was just wondering if someone has installed them, what difference in handling and ride quality them make, if they ever bottom out and if a camber adjustment as wheel as an alighment needed to be done on install.

    abfisch
  • 54gradsteds54gradsteds Posts: 102
    Here I am, all ready to replace struts, front rotors and pads, after having been quoted a price by two independent shops, with whom I have dealt and trust. They each want about $1500 total.

    Just for the heck of it, I called the local Toyota dealership here in Manasassas, and the service guy sounded downright surprised that I would even THINK of replacing struts, even though I've got 171,000 miles on my '95 Avalon. He says they do so so infrequently that they don't even carry struts in their inventory!
    The DEALER wants, however, $2000 just for the strut job, should I insist or actually need it done!
    I need some good advice, guys. I AM taking the car into the dealership for a $45 look-see at the struts first... What are your thoughts, please ??
  • finfin atlantaPosts: 586
    Wait for forum member *abfisch* to reply as he has extensive mods to his Avalon suspension. But it sounds a little high to me. And the struts are available. As an educated guess... no struts could possibly last 171k and still work properly. They are like shock absorbers and wear out in time and mileage. You need an alignment also. Pads and rotors.. if the rotors have been turned twice (or possibly just once)... they are probably done. Replace them. And the pads of course. My .02 :)
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