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Toyota Avalon Navigation System

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  • I would like to find a price somewhere for newest navigation dvd for 08 Avalon.
    Are there any options other than the$199 price at the dealer? What is the part number?
  • Here is one option. Not great, but an option. Cost $188

    eBay has the updated DVD for sale. The 2009 is available now (don't know when the "2010" or next version might be available - might want to ask your dealer first.

    Item number: 260545921487
  • tonystewarttonystewart Posts: 10
    edited February 2010
    Has anyone created an image using the v8.1 loader but the new v9.1 maps?

    I've done it with Gen 5 in the past before abandoning them for a LockPick 2 WF.
  • There is a place (using BitTorrent to find it) that has the v.9.1 maps. It took about 2 days to download. It is a Dual Layer DVD (it seems to be unprotected), BUT it does not work on my 2008 Avalon. The car system does not recognize it. I tried initializing everything I could think of. Either I am missing something (I am a Computer and Electricial engineer), or the uploaded image has a bug in it somewhere. I verified the download and it still is not recognized by the car's software.

    Back to square one. I am assuming that the DVD is copyprotected, or that the DVDs are VERY car specific. I did notice that the v7.1 DVD is over 8GB, while the V9.1 is about 7.2GB. You wouldl think that a later version of the maps would have more info, not less.

    Does anyone have any thoughts? I have yet to be able to try the DVD on other late model, high-end, Toyotas.

    I would like to know if anyone has had any success at this.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    Just a hunch here.... but what speed did you burn the DVD at? I know that all three of my past Toyota CD players never played discs if they were burned over 16X. Just for kicks I would re-burn the image at 4X or 2.4X if you can and try again. The worst you be out is a blank DVD.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • Here is a procudure that I used for my 2008 Avalon:

    Save the uTorrent (uif format) file. Download takes about 2 days!

    Load a new Verbatim DVD+R DL DVD 8X into drive E: (lower DVD player)

    Execute PowerISO software

    Select Mount: Mount the (Open the uif file with PowerISO) the navigation file from hard disk

    Select Burn: Burn the file to DL DVD drive with verify option checked. Use 8x speed.

    Burn will take 40-60 min. When finished verify that the files show up on the new DVD

    At Car:

    Put car into accessory switch position; push start button half way down

    Open trunk and remove trunk liner from over DVD player

    Slide switch to right and press space under switch

    Remove old DVD

    Insert new DVD into drive.

    Close slide switch and replace trunk liner

    Turn on Navigation system

    Wait 2-3 minutes for new setup to complete.

    Go to DVD menu to verify that new version is installed.

    If above fails, reinsert last NAV DVD that worked using above procedure.
  • I tried burning at 4x and even slower. But I will try the directions posted on #360 for this. I am using very high quality DL DVDs with an excellent burner.

    Thanks for the suggestion. If I get it to work, I will post it here.

    Dave
  • cmb08cmb08 Posts: 24
    Hi.
    The 2011 models will be coming with new touch screen NAV systems.
    That leaves us the last of this past generation of Avalons. With 2011 there is a new body type..stereo as well.
    Question......with the additional 3000.00 rebate offered........is it worth getting the 2010 with this seemingly frustrating NAV system? In CA, the only ones left have NAV in them. I had hoped to find one without NAV...but nothing..
    I like the car otherwise. Just wondering what those who currently own 2009/2010 models think? The rebate more than compensates the cost of NAV if price negotiation continues as well as it has. Prices are great....but if HAVING the Nav...even if I don't plan on using it much is going to give me constant headaches...maybe not worth it? Spouse says if we buy 2011..doesn't want to pay for NAV anyway...so isn't a question of waiting for new technology with NAV.
    So.....buy 2010 for great price...and Nav sort of a free accessory OR eliminate headache (and possible service problems) and buy 2011 with NO NAV
    Please be candid with your comments.
    Thanks!
  • cmb08cmb08 Posts: 24
    Hi.
    The 2011 models will be coming with new touch screen NAV systems.
    That leaves us the last of this past generation of Avalons. With 2011 there is a new body type..stereo as well.
    Question......with the additional 3000.00 rebate offered........is it worth getting the 2010 with this seemingly frustrating NAV system? In CA, the only ones left have NAV in them. I had hoped to find one without NAV...but nothing..
    I like the car otherwise. Just wondering what those who currently own 2009/2010 models think? The rebate more than compensates the cost of NAV if price negotiation continues as well as it has. Prices are great....but if HAVING the Nav...even if I don't plan on using it much is going to give me constant headaches...maybe not worth it? Spouse says if we buy 2011..doesn't want to pay for NAV anyway...so isn't a question of waiting for new technology with NAV.
    So.....buy 2010 for great price...and Nav sort of a free accessory OR eliminate headache (and possible service problems) and buy 2011 with NO NAV
    Please be candid with your comments.
    Thanks!
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    The nuts and bolts of the 2011 are basically the same as the 2010. The way I see it, if you can get the deal you want go for the 2010. Heck, even wait it out a bit until the 2011s arrive. They will be happy to off load a 2010. With all the bad press Toyota is getting lately I am sure you will have no problem getting 2010 for invoice less rebates.

    I had an 06 without Nav that I loved. Only had a two minor issues fixed under warranty and was a great car. I played with the nav before I bought it and would have preferred the touch screen. However, for as often as it gets used it wouldn't have been a deal breaker for me if I wanted it.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • All,
    I bought the latest DVD Navigation Map - North America from Toyota (v9.1) for $200. It was discounted from the original price. It is for my 2006 Avalon. While the maps/data have been updated, they still don't have streets and addresses that have been around for years. As are all of you, I am very frustrated. Anyhow, I made a successful copy of the DVD using ImgBurn and 2.4x DVD+R DL Verbatim media. I am selling the old DVD Navigation Map (v5.1) on Craiglist. You may find it in the Los Angeles region under Toyota/Lexus DVD Navigation Map - North America. Please respond to my Craigslist posting if you want further information on the old or new map data.
  • frontafronta Posts: 2
    what city and state is your craigslist posted.
  • The Craiglist post is located in Los Angeles, CA. Specifically, it is under the San Fernando Valley region of Los Angeles.
  • I noticed the post was difficult to find, using Craigslist standard search, so below is a better method:

    Drill down into the following area of Craigslist:
    1. los angeles craigslist > san fernando valley > for sale / wanted > electronics
    2. Search for "DVD Navigation Map"
    3. The post is entitled "Toyota/Lexus DVD Navigation Map - North America"

    I have not provided the link as the post will expire and the re-post would use a new link. Hope this helps.
  • fmflfmfl Posts: 16
    There are thousands of pictures of the 2011 Avalon on the web. Every one show a picture of the navigation screen ... not one of them show a picture of the radio without the navigation. Evidentally Toyota is pushing the navigation system ... which is a little fancier than in the past, but still has all the problems they always had from what I can see so far. The 2011 with radio is a better looking dash, and at 2,000 bucks cheaper you can buy a lot of Garmins or whatever. The radio version handles 6 CDs and the navigation version only handles 4 CDs. The radio vacuum flourescent display is a heck of lot sharper and prettier than the navigation display ... I defy you to find the two systems side-by-side to contrast them, or even to see an in-dash picture of the radio at all. My trust or faith in good old solid Toyota declines every day. Toyota just screws it up time after time.
  • twinbtwinb Posts: 140
    I agree about the new sales push on the nav. I went to ten midwest/mountain dealer sites & each of the new Ltd. models had the nav installed, guess you have to special order one without it or maybe go for the base model.
  • avvyavvy Posts: 9
    I'm wondering if bench seats can be ordered on 2011. I now have fear of bucket seats.

    The concern that sticks in my mind is that a friend had heart attack at wheel and the passenger could not get over the console to reach the brake.

    She was able to steer into a Park with car slamming into huge oak tree. Than God, it was early in morning and Park was children free.

    Both were injured, but could have been killed.

    It's been over a year and my friend will not ride in a car with bucket seats.

    Your reply will be appreciated. Thanks.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    The Avalon hasn't had a bench since 04. Actually I believe the only cars still available with a bench seat are the Chevy Impala, Buick Lucerne, and Mercury Grand Marquis/Lincoln Town Car. Its a dying breed.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • beachfish2beachfish2 Posts: 177
    "and the passenger could not get over the console to reach the brake. "

    Couldn't reach the shifter either? Or the ignition switch? C'mon, get real.
  • navguy1navguy1 Posts: 181
    Phil,

    The map update will just update the map database (roads, streets, highways, etc.) and business information called Points of Interest (POI). The map update does not change the user interface.
  • navguy1navguy1 Posts: 181
    edited April 2010
    Yeah that particular navigation system (with the controller) is difficult to use.

    The good news, if you are in the market for a new Avalon, is that the 2011 Avalon features GEN6 navigation with a touch-screen. Its so much better than the old system with the controller that pops out of the dash. Plus, its got the new Bluetooth interface for Bluetooth Audio (wireless from your iPhone) and you can call someone without transfering the name into the navigation system - must have a new phone with PBAP. It's awesome! Push the switch on the steering wheel, wait for the beep and say, "Call Dave Smith." Bammm.. it calls the person!
  • twinbtwinb Posts: 140
    The Caddy DTS still offers a bench seat, but that car is ~$15,000 more than the Avy, & has a 4 speed automatic tranny - straight out of the 90's it seems.
    I miss a bench. With the consoles getting bigger each year there's less room in front.
  • erixlionerixlion Posts: 1
    Hi, do you still have the gen 2/3 9.1 BT link? I cant find it anywhere.

    thank you! please reply to: logclin#gmail.com
  • I'm new here & need help. My 07 Avalon limited navigation software is terrible. Can anyone tell me:
    1) What generation navigation head unit I have? I have the OEM factory unit.
    2) What is the latest version DVD that Toyota sells that will work in my unit?
    3) Is the new software version worth the cost? Or is it still as bad? Any alternatives?

    I had someone tell me that there are multiple generations of software out there, and that if I don't get the exact one for my 2007 Avalon Limited, it will not work, and my old software DVD can't be re-installed. Any of this true? please feel free to expand on your answers, I know nothing on this topic. Very much thanks for your help!!!
  • generosegenerose Posts: 35
    Welcome...Please refer to my posts #212,213 and 293. Also see post 304.

    From what I understand, the update DVD will only update the maps, not the software so the system will continue to operate in the same inferior manner regardless..

    I would save my money regarding an update.'
    Alternatives... live with it or get a good Garmin unit. The cost is not much different! I use the old map and it is usually reasonably accurate. The routings sometimes are lacking but are not that critical to me in most cases.

    Good luck!! :D :D :D
  • 64916491 Posts: 2
    My Avalon navigation device rejected an updated DVD that I tried to install. It would then not accept the re-installation of the original DVD that came with the car. Any advice would be appreciated,
  • I just purchased a certified 06 Avalon yesterday, gosh I wish I found this blog before buying. After 1 day I already realize the navigation system is horrible. My system has version 5.1, which has very few PIO's, is this normal? If I upgrade to v8.1, will it have more PIO's? Does anyone know where to purchase reliable newer versions? I may just take the car back to the dealer tomorrow and exercise the 3-day return policy. I bought this model because it had navigation, very disappointed. I was supposed to be excited and happy about my new car, not feeling regret. THe car rides nicely though.
  • 64916491 Posts: 2
    I gave up and bought a Garmin gps navigator for $400. It works very well and I can download map updates for free. I agree, the car rides very well, no problems after seven years.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,835
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  • robsisrobsis Posts: 160
    My wife just got a 2011 Ltd with the new Nav. It seems much better than the old one from the 06-10; however, while reading the manual, it appears that it does not automatically re-calculate when you either miss your turn or are forced off of your route. It appears as if you need to manually tell it to re-route...does this sound right? Last night, she said she was testing it and was forced, by construction, to go another way. The Nav went silent until she found her way back to the originally calculated route. I saw nothing in the manual stating that it re-calcs like many of the portable navs (we have a Garmin and Tom Tom, both of which re-calc the route automatically...).

    Does this sound right or am I missing something?

    Full disclosure....I haven't tested it at all, yet, as I can't get the car away from her :D She absolutely loves driving it!
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