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Saab 9-3 Coupe (2002 and earlier)

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  • ligartligart Posts: 109
    I agree with you totally about the cramped quarters. When I was test driving a 9-3, I kept wanting to stomp out that silly little hump-attempt at a dead pedal to get some more room!

    You're right, it could get old real fast. Then again, there's always something like that on every car, huh?

    :-)
  • vigorousvigorous Posts: 15
    This is a '99; the car that in 2001, finished tied with a Lexus and two other Japanese cars for TOP SPOT - no faults found - in Which?, the UK consumers association periodical.

    I you don't believe me, try a search: 'How reliable is your new car?" at the BBC

    I have 78k km on this car and am enjoying every minute of it. The car has cachet because you don't run into many of them. The dealer says they are noticing a dip up in resale because the car is now a GM car (read parts availability) and because the car has earned its repuation for rock sold reliability.

    So if you don't want a car everybody else already has, and the Saab fits your needs, you'd be wise to at least try one. It's as comfortable at the ski hill or the beach as it is going to the opera and studies show, people think they're more expensive than they really are.

    I plan on keeping this car for a very long time. They are able to be mod-ed 'chipped' for a tremendous performance boosts. To research this aspect of Saab, try the performance tuning links at Wigwam Saab of Rhode Island.
  • pablo_lpablo_l Posts: 491
    Just got a '02 9-3 Convertible SE. Fell in love with it while test-driving the Merc and BMW convertible offerings, too. Quirkier, but very endearing. And you don't see as many around. Hope the reliability is as good as the reputation.

    Anyone know how to take off the auto-gear-shift? I rodered the exchange part, and wonder if I *have* to take it to the dealer for such a minor change...
  • nvcolornvcolor Posts: 9
    I stopped by the Saab dealer in my area today (Kansas City) and he had what appeared to be 3 brand new 2001 9-3's on his lot. I couldn't get an odometer reading, but the cars still had their original factory stickers on the windows. Tires looked brand new, so I assumed these are brand new cars. Can this be correct? Aren't the 2003's due out in 3 months or so? All 3 had same options - AT, heated seats, and moonroof. Two were silver and one black. Black had MSRP of 30,370 and silvers were 30,820. The dealer had signs in the cars listing selling price at 23,101 for black and 23,421 for silver. I have to assume the full warranty is still in place, but perhaps not?

    Have any of you seen new 2001's in your area, and if so, what kind of price was being asked. I'm not sure what to make of his asking price. Any thoughts or comments are appreciated. Thanks
  • ligartligart Posts: 109
    I saw the same thing over here in the SF Bay Area...brand new unsold 2001's. Shows that dealers have to mark these cars down to get them to move. And even then they can't (or won't) do it. Not sure what they're waiting for. When the 2003's come out these old models are gonna be even more undesirable. I guess they're gonna hold onto them until they become collector's items and maybe then they can get their price. ;-)

    If it's a new car, the full warranty would be in effect.
  • pablo_lpablo_l Posts: 491
    I would expect that, once you express your real interest, they'd be willing to come down quite a bit on the 2001s to get them moving, and get a better deal than on a 2002. Note that the new 2003 9-3 will not include a 2 door hatch or convertible... I find that a bit odd, since the 9-3 and 9-5 don't seem that far away from each other in pricing to justify the focus on two different 4-door sedan platforms...
  • GBrianKGBrianK Posts: 211
    The 2001's have no incentives left, therefore the dealer is having to suck up all of the cost of selling the car. My local dealer has 4 9-3's left and he is slashing the price on them. Prices I have never seen, because incentives are gone at the end of the month on 9-3 line.
  • pablo_lpablo_l Posts: 491
    In today's newspaper, I saw they were advertising $8k markdowns on 2001 Saab's around here.
  • I am shopping around for a used 2000-2001 Saab 9-3 2 door 5 speed and was wondering if anyone knew of any new 2001's that still might be leftover at a dealer. Any input or responses would be greatly appreciated.
  • I just bought a '99 Saab Convertible and I must say, I LOVE THIS CAR. (My previous car was a '95 Jetta that I had for almost 8 years.) The car had 29,000 miles on it; and cost 22K. I think it was a decent deal. If it wasn't, don't tell me -- I don't wanna know! :-) I'm still getting used to all the leather and power-operated gadgets. Love driving with the top down!

    tlivac -
    have you decided about your car? I'm sure you can get more than 15K for it....OK maybe. Depends on where you're located and the condition of the car. Kelly Blue Book says 17,995 for a car like yours in excellent condition. Check out the site: www.kbb.com. Let us know what you decide.
  • Hello fellow Saabers. I love my 99 9-3 SE. For the money you can't beat a SAAB...especially a used one.

    The reason for my post is that I would like to modify my SAAB with some upgrades namely a "chip". Does anyone have any direction as far as dealers or websites that I can check out. Also give me feedback of those who have added that component and let me know what you think. Thanks for your response and happy driving!
  • BlokeBloke Posts: 10
    Check out www.saabnet.com, there is a performance forum there with all kinds of stuff for upgrades.
  • nat15nat15 Posts: 2
    I've never owned a Saab yet am now seriously considering buying either a 1999 or 2000 9-3. Obviously the 1999 is a lot cheaper (about 25% less than the 2000 model), however, I'm wondering about the reliability and quality difference between the two model years. I know that 1999 was the first year of the 9-3 and heard that it had some snags that were worked out by 2000. Is this true and if so, what were they?
  • NAT15, I looked at several used 9-3 base and SE in March 2002 and the quality varied greatly. I then got distracted with a deal, $16,500, on a 1999 9-5SE with 51,000 miles. The car was looked great until I did a cold start and the car smoked for five minutes. The dealer said, "We can't find a problem and the smoke is within spec." Yeah, right.

    Labor day weekend I bought a 1999 9-3 SE High Output Five Speed with 48,808 miles for $13,900 at Z and W Mazda in Princeton, New Jersey.

    Back to the 9-3. I drove approximately seven examples with mileage from 34,000 to 57,000 miles. Let you ears, eyes, feet and fingers tell you about the car. You should drive as many examples as possible to get a well rounded feel for the car.

    Try to look at the owners manual and service book from Saab in the glove box. Call the original dealership and ask for service and very politely ask about the service history of the car. Find out what the original "In Service Date" was on the car. That's the day the four (4) year warranty began. Depending on the mileage and "In Service Date" you might still have some Saab USA warranty left on the car. You might even find the owners names written in the manual or service book. Get their phone number from some on-line white pages. Call them and ask about the car.

    Do your ears hear excessive squeeks and rattles. You will know what's typical after a few test drives. Some are typical of the breed.

    Do you see lots of scratches, I always check the bottoms of the doors to see if the previous owner scraped the door on high curbs and sidewalks. While you're down on your knees check the drain holes in the bottom of the door for clogging and or rust. Check the consistency of the gaps on the doors, trunk and hood. If they're not consistent you know body work was done. Is the front air dam area dented and scratched from running into curbs and parking lot blocks. More dents and scratches indicate a sloppy driver and car that might have suspension or steering system damage. The same goes for the alloy wheels. Inspect the air filter. No tools required. Dirty filter equals negligent owner. Are the tires worn evenly. Dismiss a car with unevenly worn tires. Front wheel drive cars NEED balanced tires and alignments are critical. Nothing is more annoying than a shaking steering wheel and a car that constantly pulls to the side. Ask the salesperson to back the car out of the parking space. Watch the tail pipe. Anything more than a moment or two of exhaust smoke and you may have a expensive repair. After swapping seats with the salesperson, turn the steering wheel all the way to the left and drive in a circle then turn the wheel all the way to the right and drive in a circle. If you hear any clicking or clacking noises the CV joints are shot. Walk away from the car.

    How's the pedal action on the clutch and brakes.
    Stomp the brakes. Do they grab and sop or does the pedal go to the floor.

    The trouble with manual heating controls breaking on the base models
    and wanting leather & heated seats kept me away from base models.

    I could go on but this is a good start and I have to go back to work.

    Michael
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,904
    In another 2+ months I will bid my beloved 2000 Saab 9-3 Base model farewell. I got a call from Saab saying that they would call me in the next 2 weeks to schedule an appointment to come and look at the car for lease end inspection purposes. This car has provided 3 years (close to it) and almost 36,000 miles of reliability and fun.

    The car was brought to the dealer twice for unscheduled maintenance, but my problems happened to coincide with scheduled service intervals.

    At 500 miles I noticed a squeak in the FR suspension. I brought the car in for the free 1000 mile service and the problem was diagnosed as a bad strut and was replaced at no cost to me.

    5,000 mile service was performed
    10,000 mile service was performed

    At around 18,000 miles I was swallowed up by a pothole while swerving to avoid a taxicab. The RF suspension was making all sorts of strange banging noises. I brought the car in and the problem was diagnosed as a cracked strut and busted thrust bearing as well as a bent rim. While the suspension was being repaired, I had the 20,000 mile service performed. The dealer covered the suspension pieces & their labor under warranty. I had to eat the cost of a new wheel and the 20,000 mile service.

    30,000 mile service performed.

    There are so many things I like about the Saab and I would reccomend it to others. I love the Turbo 4 engine, the heavy european steering, the taut suspension (yes, even in the base model), the versatility of the hatchback, the thick leather, the comfortable seats, the thick leather, the thick paint and sheet metal... I could go on for a while.

    I do have a few questions for those of you who have returned their cars that they leased from Saab Credit.

    Somehow, I must have had a rock hit my front left fog lamp on the highway. The light still works, but some pieces of the lens broke off. The glass is super-thick BTW. Can I replace this part myself?

    My rear bumper is pretty dinged up from parking on the street here in NYC. I'm pretty sure I'm going to get charged for that, but I'm not sure.

    My Saab's replacement was purchased about 5 months ago. I found one of the last remaining 2001 Honda Prelude Type SHs in the country. Hopefully there will be another Saab in my future. I'd consider the 9-5 Aero wagon if the time ever comes.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • Does anyone know how many yellow viggens were sold in the US? I had a Saab salesperson tell me he had 1 of 3 in the country and I just find that hard to believe!
  • brucec35brucec35 Posts: 246
    I can't imagine a salesman lying about something like that! : )
  • I would like to get one. my 2000 93 just got totalled by a maniac. Any idea where i might be able to get one of those unsold 2002/2001 934 dr hatchbacks?
  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    Has anyone found a particular cleaner to work well against the slightly textured plastic on the front of the instrument panel and console (same stuff on the knobs, too)? Preferrably one that leaves it looking the way it started, without adding a fake sheen.

    TIA.
  • jsterjster Posts: 112
    Try www.303products.com

    303 Aerospace Protectant--for vinyl and rubber. You can buy it over the internet, also they have a list of retailers on the page. Their carpet cleaner is also very good.

    Another product I like is Pinnacle Vinyl and Rubber Protectant. Available from internet retailers. Do a web search.

    Plexus is good for clear plastic (instrument panels, etc.) Meguairs also has products for clear plastic.
  • Greetings,

    I am in the process of buying a 1999 Saab 9-3 SE 4 door hatch back.

    Anyone have advice of what to look out for mechanically and otherwise?

    I remember in the 80's everyone talked about problems with turbo's and "Coking". Is this still an issue or has the problem been resolved?

    Any advice for turbo owners?

    Anyone who owns this car care to reply with likes/dislikes, etc?

    I value all feedback. Thank you in advance and have a great day!

    Mike
  • richn2richn2 Posts: 44
    I had just read in the Friday business section of my local newspaper that GM is trying real hard to boast sales. GM had given all of there employees 2 coupons that they can give out that would allow them to receive the s plan discount. Has anybody used the s plan to purchase a Saab and do you really get a good deal by using it. Secondly, if any GM employee would like to give one out I would be happy to take it off of your hands.
  • kumitkumit Posts: 3
    turbocharged.. For what?... Is there any upgrade.. for Saab.. I hardly hear anything on this Co. What a shame.. a turbocharged stock only...

    Kumit-
    RP Cali
  • onm33onm33 Posts: 1
    I'm thinking of trading in my 01 9-3 SE. I have approx 82k on it. The other day I went to a BWM dealer to find out how much they're willing to pay for my car if I trade it in and much to my surprise they said 7K! Are they out of their mind? They said Saabs are not too popular in the MD area. I told them that the trade in value should be between 12-13K and their response was that books don't sell cars.

    Now, my car looks brand new. My question is has anyone had the same experience? Also, how can I get the best value for my car? I really don't want to go through the trouble of placing an ad in the local paper. Any help would be appreciated.
  • manamalmanamal Posts: 434
    That is low. Even with the high miles.

    Where in MD is it? I know there are a lot of SAAB's in the DC area. try selling it at SAABNET.

    If it is in good condition, I wll give you 7K cash. Tomorrow.
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    From the official press release: "Saab will unveil a new 'Sport-Hatch' concept car that challenges the distinction between traditional hatchback and wagon bodystyles"

    Has anyone here heard about this new 9-3? You'll now find information about it at the Saab USA website. Look for it in the lower right corner of their front page. ;-)

    Revka
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    Hatchbacks & Wagons Boards
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    Here's a direct link to the Official Press Release of the The Saab 9-3 Sport-Hatch Concept. Hope you enjoy!

    If anyone comes across more information about this, please post it here. Also, in accordance with our Town Hall guidelines, please do not link to other sites that also host message boards or chats. Thanks! ;-)

    Revka
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    Hatchbacks & Wagons Boards
  • wsag26wsag26 Posts: 124
    Very nice concept. all they need to do is find the 9-3 in the headlights and call it a day. if people rave over this, which saab and gm fans probably will (i am a gm fan 10 years and counting) gm fans looking for something foreign and sporty (the concept looks like xc, just like a wagon but an SUV or crossover) can buy this.
  • logic1logic1 Posts: 2,433
    I really like the concept and hope Saab brings this to market soon.

    It has a little of the Vibe/Matrix look going on, but much more upscale. I imagine it will give up some torsional rigidity to the sedan with the big back hatch. It will be a lot more practical.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Build it Saab! Build it! If you do and make it a blue color and price it at about $31K well equipped, I'm in line!
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