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Hyundai Sonata Brakes

I have a 2006 Sonata LX with 23,800 miles. I bought it in August, 2006. Ok. It performs great. I just got back from lunch. I had my Starbucks in my cup holder doing 50 mph on two lane highway. The car in front of me comes to a screeching holt. I break (can you say panic stop) and stop without hitting. I watch this guy walking past me with a hose on his back on right by the grassy shoulder. This guy had parked his car on the two lane highway on the right lane while dragging the hose to reseed the grass. I could not believe it. I mean I have owned and driven a 2K Cobra R (Ford factory race car) that would stop on a dime (Brembo brakes) but this Hyundai is good as that. Great V6 engine and stops on a dime. Can you ask for more?
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  • jack47jack47 Posts: 312
    I have a 2006 Sonata LX with 23,800 miles. I bought it in August, 2006

    Please explain how you put 23,800 miles on the car in two months.

    Or did you mean August 2005?
  • August 2005. How time flies, ha. I bought it from Laurel Hyundai in Laurel, Maryland. Two months later they became Ourisman Hyundai. Aquamarine with beige interior. I used the 2K rebate and got an excellent deal. Thanks.
  • mamamia2mamamia2 ChicagoPosts: 700
    Few notes:

    A. If your Starbucks coffee spilled all over you, you can now SUE them for causing you severe burns.

    B. See, the guy in front of you KNEW he can come to a screeching holt safely and without causing an accident, since he looked in the mirror and saw a Sonata behind him.

    C. But since YOU did NOT know that HE knows, I am surprised you did take out your AK47 which you must keep on the passenger seat, and shot him and his stupid hose. I hope you actually DID it, just forgot to mention it.
  • MAMAMIA !!!!!!! I am shocked.!!!!!! ;)
    re: #C
    We aren't so obvious any more. Yeah, we may "respond" like that, but in a more subtle way. Maybe a 22 instead. ;), and we smile too. :) :) ;)
    Idiots like that are all over the place. (the hose guy)
  • txn428txn428 Posts: 41
    I bought this Sonata 2 weeks ago and it has 1100 miles on it. Lately I am hearing the rear brake squealing when applying the brake while backing the vehicle. When I put it back in Drive (tap the brake) it doesn't have that sound anymore. It only happens after the vehicle has been parked for 4 hours or more.

    I've brought it to a Hyundai dealership and they replaced the rear brake pads, but the squealing noise still there.

    Anyone experiencing this problem? Some people told me that is normal to have the brake squealing after the vehicle has been parked for a while and it will go away after a short drive. That's seems odd to me though. Thanks for all your input.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,737
    That is true about a little noise after a car has been parked awhile, especially in cool, humid weather when moisture may collect on the brake discs. I am hearing a little brake squeal lately on my Elantra, which goes away after driving awhile. The temps here have dropped to teens to low 20s overnight lately.
  • txn428txn428 Posts: 41
    It doesn't happen when I purchased the car which is about 2 weeks ago. The temperature is cold (50's at night) but not too low around my area (California). I've just brought it to the dealership again today and they told if I wanted them examine the squealing noise, I will need to leave it overnight so that they could do the inspection in the next morning. I'll try to do that next week and see what happen. Does anybody else experiencing the same problem as mine on the Sonata?
  • i have the same problem when my car sits for a while when I back up and is fine the rest of the time please tell me how you made out at the dealer before I go there thanks
  • I live in PA and I have experienced this with every car I have ever owned. Especially after letting it sit over night or on a day where humidity is high or it's raining.

    The rotors will begin to develop a film of rust and after hitting the brakes a few times, the rust layer is removed and the squealing noise disappears.

    May not be the same issue but the only other thing it could be is pads and the only way to resolve it correctly is to resurface the rotors as well if you are replacing pads for that reason.
  • My 2006 Sonata ABS makes a grinding sound like it is grinding corn, or dragging something on the ground when the ABS is engaged(sliding on ice for example). The brake system makes no noise under normal non ABS use, and works fine, good stopping power, the best brakes I have ever had!

    From the reading I have been doing on this subject I understand that this sound is normal.

    My question for operators who own other brands of autos is, does your other cars makes this same type of noise? And, if anyone knows, what is it in the Sonata system that makes this type of sound?

    I
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    I own something other than a Hyundai and yes, I hear the same sort of sound when the ABS engages.
  • drdonrsdrdonrs Posts: 164
    Every car that I have owned with ABS has had the same noise when activated. Here in the NY area , when we have "winter" the ABS comes into play. Perfectly NORMAL! :)
  • Thank you for your response, Pat and Dr Don.

    One reason I ask is that while this is the first car that I have owned with ABS, years ago I drove a auto with asn old ABS system and the only indication I would have of ABS engaging was a pulsing feeling on the brake peddle. No sound at all.

    The sound from the Sonata is so pronounced and such an odd sound(you believe something is dragging the ground) that Hyundai surely had a reason for making this sound so noticeable.

    Just curious. And I was wondering if some of our posters who are much more knowledgeable than I could tell us how the noise is generated?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,737
    Brake calipers/pads hitting the brake discs on 4 wheels several times per second. Can make quite a racket!
  • I leased 2 Sonatas just over a year ago and both of them now have that squeaky break sensor issue. I have not heard that at all over the course of the year, but now both of them have started up with it, within about 2 weeks of each other. (The one with higher mileage went 1st)

    My mechanic thought that it should be covered under a 3/36 warranty but the dealer says that it's onlhy 1/12.

    UGH! :(
  • drnodrno Posts: 5
    I own a 2006 GL with 24k miles. The vehicle has required no repairs except that the rear pads were worn and had to be replaced at about 20k miles. The front pads are fine. A colleague with the same model also had only the rear pads replaced. Are there problems with rear pads or proportioning valves/abs/esc systems?
  • craigbrookscraigbrooks Posts: 420
    Must be a problem with yours. I wouldn't expect to replace the rear pads but maybe once in the lifetime of my car. Somewhere around 80 - 90 K I would think. Heck I never changed the rear brakes on my 95 Lumina. Had it for 11 years and 107K miles.
  • I could by that if I only have 2 with the same problem. Had my mechanic look at it and there's a ridge of rust build up on the pads that makes the horrific SCREECHING sound, especially when it's raining/humid. I need to have it repaired at 14K and 12K. Nice huh?
  • aeosmanaeosman Posts: 1
    Can anyone tell me the trick to removing the rear brake rotors. There are a set of brake shoes inside the rotor that is the emergency brake. My left rear rotor went bad and I had a miserable time getting it off. Now I have to tackle the passenger side. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
  • jayessjayess Posts: 59
    I'd originally posted this on Maintenence & Repair, probably better here.

    Wondering if anyone else has experienced this ? I'd posted in July about the 'need' (?) to replace the rear brakes on my '07 GLS at 18,600 mi...I know . We began to hear the tell-tale metalic squeel primarily when turning the steering wheek to the right. Took it in and the mechanic and service guy indicated that the rears were worn down, mainly on the left. Being that I was hearing the noise too, which I knew to be the wear indicators and that my 19 yr old was driving the car mainly to her Summer job, I decided to have them replaced and the rotors turned. Since I'd had the car for 18 months there was little hope of having them replace under warranty. Between this and the 2 other Hyundai sites, I found a few other posts about this problem which seemed to indicate that in fact it might be a caliper or piston or rear pad issue needing an adjustment.
    Today I took my '08 GLS, in service 8/15 last yr., in for the 34 point inspection, thanks HMC for the freebie coupon - and asked that they specifically check the brakes. Well...they found that the "rear brakes were sticking in slides causing glazing" they "freed the pads and machined the rotors" this time on the house
    I insisted again that this wasn't normal especially for rear brakes and that there was some chatter on the internet message boards about what the problem might be.
    The service guy, who seems to be a genuinely decent sort pulled up the brake job on the '07 from July, printed it out and offered to discuss the problem with the
    RSM who comes in periodically to see what they "can do for me" I made sure to reiterate that I have 2 Sonatas and not just a 10 yr old Accent! He did acknowledge that the wear war on the low side of normal, I told him that he needs to look up to see the low side of normal for rear brakes.
    So - has anyone experiences anything like this from either of these years ? or have another idea of what might be going on here ? On both cars the driving as about 75/25 city/hwy the 08 is garaged the 07 outside and I'm in W. PA w/4 season weather if it matters. We like both cars but this has me concerned.
  • Immediate Attention.....All Hyundai owners should check to see if their Emergency/Parking brakes work correctly.

    All vehicles made after 2006, all Hyundai models, with the pull lever type of Emergency/Parking brake assemblies should be checked to see that their Emergency/Parking brakes work correctly.

    Additionally, if you have had any rear brake work done on your vehicle that required removing the rear rotors or emergency/parking brake work done; more than likely...the service technicians did not repair it correctly...not repairing or making adjustments to your vehicle according to Hyundai Official Repair/Service manuals.

    Apparently, someone dropped the ball at Hyundai Motor America and did not place a requirement for a force push/pull gauge on the Hyundai service departments.

    Bottom line...all levels and all certifications of Service Techs, Field Service Engineers and Hyundai Representative do not have the necessary tools on-hand to perform EMERGENCY / PARKING BRAKE INSPECTION AND ADJUSTMENT PROCEDURES CORRECTLY, SO THEY SKIP THE OFFICIAL PROCEDURES.

    Skipping these procedures could lead to emergency/parking brake drag when the brake lever is not set or the parking brake not functioning when you believe you have set the emergency/parking brake.

    Step 1. Block the front tires so the vehicle will not roll.

    Step 2. Raise the vehicle as if you were going to change the driver’s side rear tire.

    Step 3. Rotate driver’s side tire while the brake is in the released position. If you feel any drag or hear a rubbing noise, your emergency/parking brake may be dragging. If you suspect dragging, lift the emergency/parking brake lever 1 click, if the drag feeling has intensified or you cannot move the wheel, then your emergency/parking brakes need to be adjusted.

    Repeat the above steps on the passenger’s side rear tire.

    Now that you know your emergency/parking brakes are not dragging, check to see if the emergency/parking brake will hold the vehicle.

    Step 1. While a driver is in the vehicle, release the emergency/parking brake lever.

    Step 2. Pull the emergency/parking brake lever up 4 clicks from the released position. Be prepared to step on your normal brakes...Place the vehicle in drive...at idle speed...

    Does the vehicle move?

    If YES, Repeat the above step with the lever pulled up an additional click each time until you reach 8 clicks from the released position.

    Make note when the emergency/parking brake actually holds the vehicle.

    If your emergency/parking brakes do not hold the car when the lever is pulled 8 clicks from the released position (where the adjustment is check according to the official manuals and around 44 LBs of pull force maximum is need to raise the lever 8 clicks), then your emergency/parking brake is not adjusted correctly.

    When you take your vehicle in to have your emergency/parking brakes adjusted...ask that you be allowed to see the technician use a force push/pull gauge during the inspection/adjustment procedures.

    Additionally, if you identify a problem...please email Hyundai Motor America customer service at ConsumerAffairs@hmausa.com and have them document you issue...have them give you a case number.... this is the only way a TSB or recall will be issued, since the servicing departments are skipping the official inspection steps.

    Good luck
  • ayeuayeu Posts: 41
    My '07 GLS needed brakes at 11 months/ 21,000 miles - mostly highway driving - not a lot of stops. My Hyundai dealer says they have a chronic rust problem "in a high road salt environment" that causes the pads to stick in the corroded pad brackets. Mine were not releasing fully and were rubbing on the rotor. The dealer recommends a $130 procedure every 15,000 miles to disassemble the brakes, lube the slides and reassemble. Ridiculous if you ask me, but I've had it done twice because of noise. That costs you a penny a mile to keep your brakes functioning!
    I've lived in "salty" Ohio over 30 years and never had to do this and I've driven lots of cars lots of miles. I replaced front pads and rotors on my 2000 Mazda Protege at 60,000 and 110,000 miles and rear shoes at 90,000. No lubing the slides in between, either!
  • sticks57sticks57 Posts: 3
    I bought a Sonata GLS in November of 2007. Two weeks ago, with just 14,400 miles on the odometer, the right rear brakes began to sqeak. Of course it went away with brake application. After it got really noisey I called the dealer and was told that the brakes build up rust due to the chemicals that are put on the roads in the winter. Then the red flag went up when he said, "Call me if the rear wheels are hot." Well they certainly were as they had been dragging for quite some time. No wonder my gas mileage had been going down. I took the carin to the dealer and they took all 4 wheels off and serviced the pads. I asked if this was covered under warranty and they said "NOT." Total cost $130. I then sent a letter to Hyundai Customer Service pointing out that this was a safety issue and not normal wear and tear. Well I could have saved the effort as they won't come up with a dime. I have had at least 30 cars in my lifetime and not one of them had rear brake problems this early like this 2008 Sonata. NEWS FLASH to Hyundai; They put stuff on the roads up here in northern Ohio to melt ice and snow. If I have to go back in in another 14,400 miles and have this service done again, then this will be the first and last Hyundai I ever buy. So much for their great warranty.
  • ayeuayeu Posts: 41
    Sticks - I'm certainly not defending Hyundai, but a friend of mine, to whom I had told this story, recently told me that his Honda dealer told him he had the same problem with his Accord. Is your dealer in Streetsboro? I give them credit for at least identifying the problem and recommending how to address it. The Service Manager is frustrated with it. I called Hyundai and they deny the problem.
  • ssuydamssuydam Posts: 2
    Well I just left the Hyundai dealership in Streetsboro. Funny, no mention by Sheldon the service manager of this chronic problem to me. Sheldon did however want to repair the problem for $500.00. My brakes hung-up and now my rotors are scored so much so that they can't be turned. My car has 20,000 miles on it! I'll never buy a Hyundai again, and Great Lakes Hyundai should be investigated for not informing me as the customer of the ongoing problem.
  • sticks57sticks57 Posts: 3
    Aveu- you guessed it right. It is the dealer in Streetsboro. When I contacted Hyundai Customer Service, they said that they only had a couple of inqueries about rust and pads. That is hard to believe. This isn't so much a problem with the dealer, as it is with Hyundai not standing behind their product.
  • I had the same problem with 2 of my 2007 Sonatas. My dealer fixed the problem at no charge to me. They said that there's always "rust" build up from our weather and that it just needed to be scraped. I've not had a problem with the brakes since they were fixed last winter.
  • Same deal here with my 2007 Sonata in NH. Took it to a dealer because it was chirping and then I smelled a burning odor back by my left rear wheel. He said road salt was corroding the brakes. They were seeing a lot of these and have been complaining to Hyundai with no response. Cost me $400 to resurface rear rotors and replace pads (they also needed to service the front brakes). They said I need to get the rust ground off every 15,000. So I started checking online and discovered a number of similar complaints. This is a safety issue. I ended up filing a safety complaint with the Office of Defects Investigation (ODI)at theNHTA. I suggest you do the same.
  • klem747klem747 Posts: 1
    On my 2007 Sonata 4cyl., with 16,000 miles, my rear brakes were grinding.
    Upon further investigation, I found that the rotor was rusty, which caused my rear brake pads to wear prematurely. I live in Chicago, where they use road salt. It appears that drivers in winter conditions, are having the same problem. I am going to the dealer to have them look at it. If they say it is not under warranty, which I think they will, I might consider legal action against Hyundai. Is anyone else for this?
  • I'd suggest you do what I did: file a complaint with the NHTSA at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/ (You will see other similar complaints there.)

    According to my dealer, Hyundai is well aware but currently doing nothing. If consumers file complaints with NHTSA, we might see a recall. The idea of having my brakes serviced annually because substandard materials were used is not sitting well with me.
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