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Chevrolet Malibu Maxx Steering/Suspension Questions

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  • mr_botsmr_bots Posts: 225
    This isn't the only car GM has clunky steering columns on. So I'm gonna guess they'll never really fix it on Epsilon cars. Why would they fix it on a car that's only been out since 04, when W-bodies and GMT800s have had clunky steering columns since the late 90s.
  • from what I saw of the tsbs, the lube pack was an earlier fix. I have had that done to my columm several times...it never lasts.

    as for me getting this fix, will be arguing with dealer on saturday, showing them earlier repair records and that the new part is ___not__ the same as what was replaced earlier. If it gets put in, sounds like it won't help very much. bummer :confuse:

    Incidently, Those folks buying Saturn Auras may have that same problem in 3-4000 miles or so, as that vehicle's mostly based on what is in the Maxx!
  • I had the latest tsb fix done this past summer. It was the one that I waited 9 months for! I hope the Service Advisor was wrong. I am awaiting to hear from Chevy.
  • the good news is the dealer finally did the TSB regarding replacing the steering gear... much of the rattle and steering pop in my hands is gone.

    but...
    when parking sometimes, I get an annoying "pop" felt through the FRAME (I feel it mostly under my left foot), as if a universal joint or something else in the driveline is shifting slightly.

    Anyone else have this?
  • mybooomybooo Posts: 92
    Well, I can't find how to post in the problem section so I post here:

    Long story short, dealer did the latest "fix" in August on the steering clunk, 2500 miles later, problem back and worse than before. Been dealing with Chevy, first the rep got transferred, can't get ahold, no returned calls, etc. Finally get someone, sorry if the recall fix didnt work, thats all we can do. Oh, we can lubed it ever 2500 miles. Total BS! Car has not been right since day 1, I have been put off for close to 10 months now, still not right. So, what I get a lawyer, am out $ and time, will still have problem. The rep is calling the dealer to see what they can do. This is totally unacceptable! I asked if they had a warranty on the parts, I mean you replace something, problem comes back and they say, sorry thats all we will do. I guess this was my last GM product :(
  • Sorry to say I had a similar situation. Rack replaced under warranty in July '06. 7,000 miles later - replaced again (at 43k under "goodwill"). The first replacement rack was much worse at 7k miles than the original was at 36k. Totally fine now - but only have 500 miles on it since. Thinking of selling the vehicle before this one loosens up...
  • Am noticing slow return of clunks and pops in my rack as well.
    It's apparently a bad design that will never be fixable.

    Whether the hydraulic steering version will be any better is their guess, not mine.

    A pity, but Maxx will have to go bye bye by next year as I am not waiting for the columm and rack to go bad again.
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,340
    well, GM is going to go bankrupt replacing mine until 101,000 miles. I'd suggest they come up with a fix.
  • mybooomybooo Posts: 92
    Well, I finally got ahold of someone at Chevy...1st person transeferred, second one was "terminated" and on my third person. I have an appt tonight at the dealer (who is now getting rude with me) (I am overly nice, and have been, oh well). I am supposed to take it in and have the dealer "verify" that the noise is back. I am beginging to think that it is not worth my time to deal with this. Am I correct in what I have been told, that this is NOT a safety issue?
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,340
    This is simply a design issue; where the rack and pinion meet, they rattle over time. My advice is for you to take the service manager to a gravel road and drive at 10mph. That seems to make the steering gear rattle significantly. As I and others have posted, the current TSB does not alleviate the problem entirely. I speculate that the problem may come back again. While I am disappointed in the front end, it still has not deminished my belief over two years that this is the most versatile car on the road, hands down.
  • While getting oil changed at one of two dealers who have worked on my suspension, I talked with the night writer.

    He told me the Pontiac G6's are doing much worse with front end rattles and clunks, and so far there is no fix in sight.

    So we have the Malibu line, the G6 line, and - very soon, as they use the same parts - the Aura line all suffering from front end noise and clunks.

    I do know the "turn lock-to-lock" characteristics of my Maxx have changed since the new TSB part was added. Before, the vehicle steering would "stick" slightly at the ends of its travel. Now it seems to firm up at ends of travel.
  • bhw77bhw77 Posts: 101
    I finally got new steering rack last Wen.
    Don't see much difference, rattles are muted, but still there. But now then I apply breaks at highway speed (65+) car is shaking and there is a pretty loud rattle noise. Going to call dealer today....
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    make sure they recalibrated the steering column...and if they removed the wheels....did the hand torque them back on.....
  • bhw77bhw77 Posts: 101
    make sure they recalibrated the steering column
    There is no pulling left or right
    did the hand torque them back on
    You are kidding-this is a DEALER. I am going to rotate tires in a couple of days in the other (not dealer's shop).
  • Many dealers use impact wrenches that are not well calibrated. Results are warped rotors and other glitches. Many cars can tolerate this abuse. Malibus cannot (there's long, long history of brake problems with this car - check CU out !!)

    I carry a torque wrench just for this reason.

    Definitely have wheel torque and balance checked.
  • bhw77bhw77 Posts: 101
    What is exactly my point - I do not expect quality job from the dealer....
  • I bought an '05 Maxx in July of this year with low mileage. It has since been at the dealer twice for minor repairs soon after purchase. However, recently the steering wheel started jerking from right to left as if the steering was "loose" according to the service dept. They found excessive clearance in the steering gear rack and pinion and replaced the power steering gear assy. and set toe.I was told that the front end was aligned as well. Has anyone else had this problem? The car feels like it will go out of control unless you keep bringing the wheel firmly to center each time it jerks. Now it's going back to the shop with the same problem. :(
  • Is your car fixed or is it still suffering from the problem?

    '04 and up Malibus have had issues with their electric steering (columm contacts, rattles, etc.).

    If your steering is jerking or vibrating in your hands as you drive, or the steering wheel pulses left and right as you sit idling in traffic, you could have bad steering columm contacts.
  • As the Aura is being built on the Maxx chassis, does anyone know if:

    a. Aura is using Hydraulic suspension bushings for the rear suspension?

    b. If those Hydraulic bushings (assuming they exist) will fit the MAXX rear suspension?
  • bhw77bhw77 Posts: 101
    Well - I has been over two weeks since steering rack replacement. Problems are back with the vengeance! Rattles are back, steering feels loose and there are popping noises.
    I made an appointment with the other dealer tomorrow.
    Actually I am at the point to cut my losses and dump the car. It has just 12.5K miles and it does not look like it is going to age well.
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