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Chevrolet Malibu Maxx End of the Line?

sc00bssc00bs Posts: 87
edited March 15 in Chevrolet
I see that the Maxx is no longer going to be manufactured after 07. Can anyone tell me why?
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  • kurtamaxxguykurtamaxxguy Posts: 677
    in 2008. Was announced in an article on Edmunds today. The 2008 Malibu redesign will apparently be sedan only.

    Enjoy 'em while we have 'em, folks.
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,340
    Wow! I'm definitely going to have to buy another one before that happens. I think it is the rear wiper that sealed its fate :P
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    I know sales percentages v. the sedan have been disappointing but Chevy did very little to promote the Maxx in my opinion. There's plenty of tough competition in the sedan catagory including the new Camry, the Sonata/Optima and the Ford triplets. Chevy (along with Mazda) were the only two providers of mid-sized hatches and neither did much to promote their cars---- ah well... :cry:
  • juswheelsjuswheels Posts: 42
    Since mine is only about 11 days old, I'm disappointed to hear that. Came back to GM after reading about their stepping up in quality and safety. One test drive of the Maxx told me that it was true. It's the best new car I've had in years. Well, the change is 3 years away and Malibu is staying in the lineup so perhaps some form of the Maxx will yet remain. Even with the announced change, it's still a great car. :)
  • ericw55ericw55 Posts: 53
    This can't be good for trade-in value. Guess I'll keep mine a while.
  • juswheelsjuswheels Posts: 42
    Been thinking about this announcement for a day or so but can't help wonder why would GM shoot themselves in the foot like this ? I know Edmunds is noted for their accurate reporting, so I'm not questioning their report, but am wondering about their source. How does GM expect to sell the 2006 & 2007 models after such an announcement??? Is their marketing department, really that dumb???
    If the 2008 change is correct, I would also imagine that the next 2 years production may be somewhat limited. That said, I'm not sure they are capable of another complete re-design and testing in just 2 years. Actually about 20 months before production must begin, I suspect some of that may be wishful thinking on their part.
    At first I was disappointed but now think, if true, Maxx owners may not be hurt. Hatchbacks are always in demand and nearly all here agree that the Maxx is a great one. According to the announcement, the Malibu will continue, just the Hatch dropped, so I don't expect it will effect value, it just might enhance it. What do you think, could the Maxx become the next "Collector Car"?? (just kidding) :) :) .
  • skyhawkskyhawk Posts: 126
    It may never be a classic collector car but maybe someday there will be a rally for the Maxx car club long after the last one is made.
  • beedublubeedublu Posts: 236
    Is their marketing department, really that dumb???

    Yes. After all, GM got itself into its current mess in part because of all the huge SUVs they've been pushing. Now they're dumping the best SUV alternative in their lineup, for what? So that they can push more Stupid Useless Vehicles like the Escalade and Hummer?

    Oh well...I sort of expected this to happen. I always said that if the Maxx hadn't existed I would have been happy with a loaded LT sedan instead. But I plan to keep my 04 Maxx for at least 5 years more.
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    The problem with that is that there's plenty of great 4 door sedans, including (what looks like a little more interesting) Camry, a less interesting but better Sonata, and better priced Ford triplets. That hatch and the flexibility is what brought me over.

    My short list consisted of a Suzuki Aerio SX (something that really ISN'T selling), and a Scion xB (really noisy churning engine). Had the HHR been out I would have given it a look but it won't have this level of power and sophistication. The space was what was important to me.

    We must be odd because I don't see many Mazda 6 hatches or wagons, but I just keep feeling that Chevy has ignored this car from the beginning.
  • My baby's 2 weeks old, and she's already going to be an endangered species! :cry: so to speak... I hope I'm not in the market for another one by then. I suppose this means that the HHR will need to be really good, because I don't see any other GM cars nearly as roomy and fuel-efficient.
  • beedublubeedublu Posts: 236
    We must be odd because I don't see many Mazda 6 hatches or wagons, but I just keep feeling that Chevy has ignored this car from the beginning.

    Actually, the Mazda 6 hatch is hard to tell from the sedan version. Mazda did a pretty good job of making their hatch unobtrusive, which might be part of the Maxx's problem...it looks a little too different from the Malibu sedan for most people.

    But I thought the Maxx looked sportier than the sedan, plus when viewed from the rear, it has a less visible muffler. I can't figure out why so many GM cars have such low-hanging exhaust systems...

    You're right, GM didn't really try to sell this innovative car. That's just their problem: They're too reactive. Even on those rare occasions when they come up with something original, they don't attempt to influence the marketplace and promote what they've created. They just hope that people will drift into showrooms and discover their new product. No wonder they're going down the tubes.
  • madmaxxmadmaxx Posts: 44
    GM IS KILLING THE MAXX........

    Looks like there's a 2008 Maxx SS in my future. That will be my third Maxx (unless some moron creams my '04 before then).

    Madmaxx
  • kurtamaxxguykurtamaxxguy Posts: 677
    you'll have to get your SS in 2007, as GM is discontinuing __all__ Maxxes at the end of that year.

    Other than the SS variant, I doubt (but could be wrong :confuse: ) there will be any major changes in the Maxx from here on.

    The rest of the Malibu line gets redone in 2008.

    If GMs' light bulb had gone on and they stuck AWD into the Maxx in 2008 (which they hinted about doing at one time) and restyled the rear end a bit, it could have been a hot competitor to the Audi A3 and _ gasp _ maybe the AWD Chrysler 300.

    The engineers knew what to do with this car. Pity that marketing was and is clueless about it.
  • ericw55ericw55 Posts: 53
    Are you saying BOTH GM marketing guys dropped the ball on this one? ;)
  • juswheelsjuswheels Posts: 42
    "Dropped the Ball" - Not exactly - But they should have kept the summer intern on, for a week or so longer to give the intern a chance to think their decision through. ;)

    Sorry couldn't help that - Only GM would make a decision to kill one of the best designed cars they've built in years. Sure, they didn't promote it. With all the behemoth SUV's collecting dust on the lots, the advertising bucket had to be put somewhere. They had much more tied up in the SUV's.

    Oh, Well, there's still hope. The SS versions of both cars, due in 2006 may change some minds. Time will tell but until then I'm going to enjoy mine. I still don't see the value being hurt much, if at all.

    I do respectfully disagree with the posts about Hatches being unpopular - I see them everywhere. But at the same time, lets be honest, the Foresters, Outbacks, Santa-Fe's, Rav-4's and other like sized vehicles, aren't SUV's. They are car based AWD hatches. Please don't yell. There's nothing wrong with that or with them, but that's exactly what they are. If gas keeps going up even the fuel stingy Subies, will feel the pinch.

    I enjoy getting 30 plus on the highway when virtually nothing else with the size and versatility of the Maxx, is coming close. :) In fact, As we've seen with the big SUV's, if gas doesn't settle down, the entire AWD bubble is going to burst.
  • madmadammadmadam Posts: 55
    This is sad, and completely crazy. I cannot imagine why this car hasn't been an enormous hit with the public. It is so far better than most, and a great value. It breaks my heart that such a terrific design and concept will be dropped. I love mine and it has been perfect for our family. Everyone who rides with me raves about it.
  • juswheelsjuswheels Posts: 42
    Kurt - I agree, you are correct. I think the main reason the Maxx isn't a mega-hit is the look. It's not the egg with wheels that most other sedans are. People get used to a certain look and it takes time to change. Even a portion of the Hyundai advertising strongly suggests that it "looks" like something else. Once you get someone inside a Maxx, their opinion changes completely. I liked the "different" look of the Maxx right-a-way but it took a little bit to convince my wife.

    As to another post that asked if the reported departure of the Maxx has been seen anywhere else. Actually the reports I've read quoted Edmunds. Of course, nothing official from any GM site. Maybe there's hope, yet. :) :) :)
  • madmaxxmadmaxx Posts: 44
    You're right....a 2007 Maxx SS (maybe with AWD?) not a 2008. Of course, a left-over 2007 sitting on a dealer lot in January 2008 might have a great deal available.

    Installed new Blaupunkt speakers in my Maxx over the weekend. The PIE (Precision Interface Electronics) model GM12-AUX v2 auxiliary input adaptor is 12 pin, and will not work on the Maxx LS (the stereo is 24 pin). I have a call in to PIE; they're supposed to call back in an hour or so with more info.

    Getting to the stereo is easy---just pop the fuse panel cover off, and you can reach right up and unplug the stereo wiring harness (unless you have big hands).
  • drejdrej Posts: 119
    Yes, I dumped my 95 4x4 Yukon for a loaded 05 LT Maxx And I love it!
    It goes over twice as far on half the tank the Yukon did! (1 Tank $24 -vs $54 )
    D~ (BTW My Yukon can't sell so I keep it for a winter beater here in the NE!)
  • balloo814balloo814 Posts: 16
    I have been away for one week and this is what I get to come back to??? :surprise: :mad: :cry: :confuse:

    That is terrible news.

    I took a trip from Dallas to Chicago and I will say that the ride of my maxx was awesome. I wondered how accurate the computer calculations for gas mileage were so I did the calculations myself. On the low side, I was getting 32 mpg. On the high side, I was getting 35 mpg. This was awesome out of a V6.

    I read something earlier about the HHR being the vehicle that someone replaces their maxx with... I am sorry but why would GM hire the same guy that designed the PT cruiser to come over and make a slightly larger version for GM? Frankly, I think that was mighty stupid. Also, I have only seen options for 4 cyl engines in the HHR. There is now room under the hood for a V6.

    As for the look between the 'bu and the maxx, I like the style of the maxx much better than the 'bu. I do not know why anyone would want a 'bu over a maxx. I love the leg room in the back and don't need to worry about asking passengers if I need to move the seat up.

    Of all the cars I drive, I like the maxx better than any honda or toyota that I have worked on. I really like the rear suspension for the fact that you get a camber and a toe adjustment, which many other makes don't offer. Therefore, it is not as frequent to have to install after-market alignment products.

    If this rumor is true, I know that it is not the first stupid thing that GM has done... just look at the side post batteries in about a year or two... I suppose I will have to take my dollar somewhere else when it comes time for my next new car/truck. I hope I can get as many miles out of my maxx as I did my silverado...
  • kurtamaxxguykurtamaxxguy Posts: 677
    is supposedly the styling did not catch on. People complained about how the rear end looked (C&D called it a bulldog butt).
    Ok, so why not restyle the rear end (can't cost __that__ much to change the shape of the hatch!)?

    As for HHR,,

    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=106233

    has info on it. Just another retro vehicle clone that's underpowered to boot.
  • madmadammadmadam Posts: 55
    The European version of the MAXX--The Signum--looks like the same car without the bump on the rear. Seems like a small modification that might make our car more appealing to the general public. Check it out. I happen to like the way the MAXX looks--it's eye-catching and unique.
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    Perhaps the Signum will come in as a Saturn. It would be great if Saturn=Opel. Save GM some money too. With the closing of the Spring Hill plant (for S. anyway) and the abandonment of plastic panels GM seems to be moving in this general direction--look at how close the Aura looks.

    Of course, when Olds was changed from huge land barge (98, etc) to slightly more European in nature, the plug was pulled. Certainly Saturn has no place to go but up-- and the Aura certainly DOES look up after the Ion.
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    I quoted the article from edmunds..if you not GM is redesigning or replacing all the body styles recently releases....to include the G-6, LaCrosse, Saab 9-3 and the Malibu by 2010.

    "The midsize Epsilon is GM's workhorse platform. In North America, it will underpin vehicles from six different brands by 2010, including replacements for the Buick LaCrosse, the Chevrolet Malibu, the Pontiac G6 and the Saab 9-3, as well as the new Cadillac BLS and the Saturn Aura, sources told Inside Line. When the Malibu sedan is redesigned, the five-door Maxx will be dropped"

    I would consider this normal....as they are maintaining the chassis/platform and redesigning the cover that the platfrom..sales always drives a car...and it is obvious the Maxx didnt catch on like GM thought it might...again...I think it was said early...there is this distaste for a hatchback...but personally.I love them!!
  • kurtamaxxguykurtamaxxguy Posts: 677
    The new Maxx/Malibu were essentially tweezed Opel/Saab designs anyway. One major change was suspension, which were modified to cope with our bad roads. At least one Enthusasist magazine complained about that.
  • beedublubeedublu Posts: 236
    ...and it is obvious the Maxx didnt catch on like GM thought it might...again...I think it was said early...there is this distaste for a hatchback...

    Forgive me for sounding cynical...and pardon me, truck/van/SUV owners...no offense intended (really!)...but the reason hatchbacks don't catch on in this country is because they're too polite & sensible. It seems that everyone would rather have a big, in-your-face trucklike vehicle whether they really need it or not.

    I'm so sick of hearing from people with kids who say they "need" something like a Suburban to haul around two pre-schoolers and a couple bags of groceries (all of which would fit easily in a Malibu or Impala) because they don't feel "safe" driving anything smaller.

    OK. I got that off my chest. Flame away!
  • schnooks2schnooks2 Posts: 6
    "I'm so sick of hearing from people with kids who say they "need" something like a Suburban to haul around two pre-schoolers and a couple bags of groceries (all of which would fit easily in a Malibu or Impala) because they don't feel "safe" driving anything smaller."

    If this statement is in response to my inquiry above.... as I am assuming you must not have kids.. neither do I (at least not until the Russian Govt. says I do $35,000 later)... therefore, I don't have the experience of packing all the "kid crap" into a vehicle of ANY kind... and just wanted a little advice from those who are experienced before I go out and purchase this "sensible" vehicle.

    Thanks to those of you who were so kind to reply about cargo issues.
  • juswheelsjuswheels Posts: 42
    Congratulations on your impending family. A close friend of our family has twin girls adopted from Russia. Although their experience was costly, everything worked out for them and they are very happy.

    As to packing all the stuff needed, well, having raised 2 kids and now have 2 grand-kids, I can tell you it's a chore and a half. There's never enough room. When my kids were babies we owned a Mustang. Packing the kids and stuff into the "Stang" was a real show but we managed. Believe it or not we then went from the Mustang to an Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser Wagon. 454 motor with all the toys. Purchased it about 2 months before the 70's gas crunch hit. (Yeah, shot myself in the foot with that one). Only got about 8 to 10 MPG with it but it towed our camper and all the "kid stuff" with ease. Except for the MPG it was a good car.

    Whatever car you choose, get the DVD option. It will save your sanity on a long trip. By the way, with kids, a long trip is anything over 30 minutes :)

    Honestly, the Maxx should be a great car for your needs with outstanding MPG, reliability and utility. However if you need a little more room, give the Ford Freestyle a look. Underpowered with the 3.0 but tremendous interior space. I gave it a good look before buying. However, since most of our traveling is through mountains, I found the motor a little sluggish. If it wasn't for the mountain driving, that might have been my next car. I do tend to agree with the other posts stating that for many people the 4 x 4 behemoth isn't a "needed" vehicle, rather it's a "wanted" vehicle. :)
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    Haven't driven the Freestyle but it looks very interesting if you need extra space. I also hear that's due to be cancelled but that the same platform will continue as a Mercury.
  • beedublubeedublu Posts: 236
    The statement you quote wasn't directed at you at all. Sorry if it came off sounding like a personal attack.

    You're right, I don't have kids. But even if I did, I wouldn't choose a Suburban or even a Trailblazer. And definitely not a Venture/Uplander. An Equinox, maybe. But the Maxx would seem just about perfect.

    BTW, I know people who do have the aforementioned two preschoolers and who manage to haul them, the groceries and all the kid-related paraphernalia around in Taurus wagons, Accord sedans and (yes!) Subarus and other hatchback/small wagon types of vehicles.

    Those who simply want a huge SUV are welcome to buy them, as far as I'm concerned; I was only commenting on the absurdity of claiming that having a child or two makes such a vehicle an absolute necessity.
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