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Subaru Forester vs Mazda CX-7

rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
edited March 6 in Subaru
Folks, I think this new Mazda CX-7 could cause real problems for the Forester (and Tribeca). Besides being great looking, the AWD version starts at $26,010—and that's with a 244 HP turbo engine!

Check it out:

http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee8e90f

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=upcomingCX7

I sure hope Subaru has an answer for this new vehicle—and soon...

Bob
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  • lfdallfdal Posts: 679
    Yup, this looks like a potential Forester killer. Now its going to be purely a matter of brand loyalty and negative / positive dealer experiences. The price is basically a wash and they offer some very nice option packages.

    Larry
  • dstew1dstew1 Posts: 275
    I've been eying the CX-7 and its concept predecessor (the MX-Crossport)for several months now, and it looks to be a serious threat to both the Forester and Tribeca, with major cross-over appeal in a true Goldilocks sense - not to big, not to small, but "just right."

    You forgot to mention the six-speed transmission, especially when Subaru's not even giving the auto Forester (not even the FXT) five speeds! Not to mention the manu-matic tranny.

    On a separate note, it looks like Mazda out-did Toyota when it came to the rear lift tailgate and under-cargo spare tire.

    I'll have to see it in person, but it's already got me wondering how much my 06 FXT would trade for (ok, not really. well maybe a little.)

    Doug
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    It's lacking a manual tranny, so that will eliminate a few customers.

    The big thing here is that it just looks "right." I find it to be very attractive, and I think a lot of others will too. On the flip side, the swoopy styling will mean it's not as functional in terms of carrying stuff that a boxy design (Forester) would be.

    Bob
  • JMHO---ugly, ugly, ugly inside and out. :P
  • smittynycsmittynyc Posts: 291
    Agreed -- I fully understand the Forester's style is retrograde and aging (gracelessly) by the day, but I would not even consider buying a vehicle that looks like this Mazda, just based on my from-the-gut aesthetic response.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters AustraliaPosts: 1,554
    G'day

    I'm not sure that it would appeal to the same buyer profile. It looks quite nice but very car derivative, whereas the Forester has a definitely more rugged appeal.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • kumarikumari Posts: 72
    I checked out the new Maxda and it is GORGEOUS, however, the stated gas mileage is less than that on the Forester (and we know they are all off by a few MPG to begin with), so it's not really a comparable car to the CRV, RAV4 and Forester, IMO. I liken it more to a Honda Pilot or the Toyota Highlander or the new crossover that Acura is coming out with.

    I will, however, test drive it when it comes out, just to compare.

    Thanks for the tip,

    Samantha
  • raybearraybear Posts: 1,776
    The rear corner vision looks horrible, worse than a Tribeca!
  • dt63944dt63944 Posts: 66
    The CX7 suffers from what most cars of it's type do: poor vision on the rear left and right. The Forester has virtually no blind spots and that's a good feeling when driving.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    It's bad but not likely worse than the Tribeca.

    I see this as a serious Forester XT competitor.

    Bob
  • poodog13poodog13 Posts: 320
    "I sure hope Subaru has an answer for this new vehicle—and soon...

    Bob"


    Just curious, why do you "hope" that Subaru has an answer for the new Mazda? I own a Forester and am very happy with it, but I'd never "hope" that Forester remains the best car for me indefinitely, I'd just buy the best car for my needs at the time, whatever that may be.

    Unless you work for the company, "hoping" that they remain competitive seems kind of like rooting for your favorite sports team. Great for sports, not as understandable for a consumer purchase.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    that's just it--Subaru is like a sports team for many of us. We made a commitment to them and want them to suceed. Irrational? Yes. Dull? No.

    John
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    John is right. Many of us are Subie-philes, so we we root for our favorite brand, that being Subaru. BTW, I too have a Forester (actually it's the wife's).

    Bob
  • lfdallfdal Posts: 679
    That's what I was referring to in my previous post when I commented on brand loyalty. If you find a brand you're very happy with, at least in my case, I'll try to find one of that brand's models for a new car before I look elsewhere.

    We currently own 2 Subaru's - an 03 OBW and an 04 FXT.

    I like the styling of the OBW and think it feels sturdier than the FXT, but it has a terrible case of piston slap. If that was the only Subaru we owned, it would guaranteed be the LAST one we owned.

    On the other hand, despite a couple of quirks, I'm as happy with my FXT as the day I drove it off the lot, especially with the few simplistic mods I made to the car.

    Bottom line for me is that the only Subarus I'd consider would either have the H6 or the semi-closed deck design of the FXT's H4.

    But quite frankly I had better luck with dealer support from Lincoln-Mercury with the 4 Sables I owned.

    Larry
  • Wow-one of the reasons we switched from Volvo and Infiniti to Subaru was the fantastic dealer support and the fair pricing for service! In New England the competion must keep them on their toes!

    We own three Subies and love them! :)
  • mnfmnf Posts: 404
    I agree I own a Forester and for me to switch it would have to have a GOOD track record and it then would still need to win me over and I dont see that happening with the Mazda. Oh by the way your right HOPE IS NOT A STRATEGY..... MATT
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    HOPE IS NOT A STRATEGY

    You choose a stragegy based on logic, reason and maybe enough facts - then you hope it's the right strategy! ;)

    tidester, host
  • raybearraybear Posts: 1,776
    Funny no one has mentioned reliability. The Forester has a proven track record.
  • njswamplandsnjswamplands Posts: 1,760
    The Forester has a proven track record.

    glad to see people taking it off the street and doing that stuff on the track. but what is foresters street record like :P
  • lfdallfdal Posts: 679
    Are you talking about the Mazda or the Tribeca........ :)
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