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2013 and earlier-Mercedes Benz E-Class Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,498
    First of all, not everyone can qualify for the USAA discount. You, or an immediate family member must be a veteran. Secondly, you need to have an insurance policy of some sort with USAA and/or accounts with them.

    Secondly, used car prices have skyrocketed. I have looked at Manheim, which is the auctions, and prices have been unbelievable.

    I would buy the new car, not the used car, for sure. I paid under 47K for mine with the discounts.

    Hope this "food for thought" has been helpful.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • fatcat71fatcat71 Posts: 75
    Can you tell me what the second 1500 discount was for?? Also, if you use the USAA buying service they get you the car for 49K, and then you print a coupon and take to dealer. So, I'm guessing that you do not use the buying service but just tell them you are entitled to the discount at the dealer.
    Also, does anyone know then the 4000 rebate for USAA ends, some places say July 31, and others say August.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,498
    I brought my ID number from USAA to the dealership. They applied for and received the $4000 coupon from USAA via and email from them.

    I believe this is good until August 31, 2011. Check back on this forum site to about 2 weeks ago, I believe the date was listed there.

    I received an additional $1500 because I was a loyal customer of theirs. I've purchased 5 Benz autos from them in the past couple of years, so they said I qualified for an additional incentive, which they had.

    USAA will show you the actual vehicle invoice cost when you look it up after you have built your car the way you want.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • fatcat71fatcat71 Posts: 75
    Thanks for the reply. I see that some local dealers have 2011 CPO E350's and are asking the same price for the car as if it was new. I don't understand the logic at all except that you get an extra year of warranty. Can't see anyone buying it thought, because they told me you cant lease it, and the interest rates on preowned are about .5% higher then buying new.
  • gosox1gosox1 Posts: 17
    Hi, this thread has been insightful, only wished I had read it earlier in the buying process. :)

    We picked up today 2011 E350 4matic that was $58,525 MSRP and got $8200 off, plus a service coupon.

    The GM did clarify to me that the Conquest was $4K this month (give copy of registration). I could not get any loyalty discount as well, (stated prior as ~1500) as we were told it was one or the other and that the loyalty was for someone financing thru MB. We do have a MB, but not purchased at this dealer.

    With other dealers I mentioned wanting both program discounts, but only got conquest discount.

    Say Abacomike, I know that you said you've bought a few MBs from same dealer, i was wondering if you give them a trade-in or something that helps them get to your great purchase prices?

    Thanks.

    p.s., The car is elegant and all, but I think the variable assist steering and heavy weight and feeling of not so quick acceleration make it a pure luxury car and not as sporty as BMW/Audi lines. Next time, I'll get the E550 :shades:
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,498
    I do trade my vehicles, but they give me $1500 to $2000 over Manheim because they sell my preowned cars on their lot ( I only put on about 6,000 miles per year) and I buy a new one every year. So I get the USAA discount (invoice less their incentive, which was $4,000 last month) less $1500 because I do finance with MB Finance along with 1.9% APR which is their buy rate). They gave me $44,500 for my trade ( I only paid 48K for the car when I bought it).

    They just give me their very best pricing (they beat all the other dealers here in South Florida by thousands) because I buy a car from them every year and refer many associates and friends to their dealership.

    Hope this helps understanding how I get the best pricing. I would assume not everyone can get this at their dealership. But I have seen pricing on this forum that comes pretty close to what I get. I just seem to get a great upfront deal along with high trade in values since they can sell the vehicle on their lot and they don't have to wholesale it.

    They sold my trade from last month for $48,500, and gave me 44,500, or $4000 over what they gave me. They had to get the car certified, which costs them about $1500 or so. What I don't understand is how they can sell my year old car for a little more than I paid for my new 2011. I know the used car market is booming (prices have risen an average of 15% on used cars of the last year.

    Good LUck

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • jwilliams2jwilliams2 Posts: 856
    Must be really strong if they resold your car for more than you paid for it new.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,498
    edited July 2011
    The car had 4800 miles on it. it was in perfect condition, no dings, scratches, etc. NOne of the cars I trade have any mars or defects on them. I am sure if it did, I could not have gotten what I got out of it.

    They advertised the car for 49,990 on the lot. Most people would have to pay 52,000 for a new 2011. So I guess they figured that it was a great deal. Remember, there is a sucker born every minute, and most of those suckers don't read the forum here on Edmunds.

    Also, remember that they got the car certified which means the warranty goes to a total of 100K and 7 years. So to some people, it is worth it.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • fatcat71fatcat71 Posts: 75
    Can anyone explain why when I build the car at edmonds.com (E350 sport 4matic, Black/Black MB Tex, Premium 1 and wheel pkg) the incoice is 53569 and when I build on USAA.com the Invoice is 57603? The Edmonds price minus USAA discount gets me under 50K but the USAA site shows me at 53K AFTER rebate??
    Thoughts??
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,498
    The price you received from USAA is the MSRP of the vehicle. When you get the USAA final price, it should be invoice less $4000.00. So something is wrong. I did it and it showed the invoice less $4000.

    Are you sure you are using the site correctly? Double check or call USAA and speak with a customer service rep. If you qualify, they will give you the info on the phone.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • kevinc5kevinc5 Posts: 204
    How does the Mercedes Loyalty Discount operate? Do you have to be a current owner of a Mercedes or do you also have to have a prefered customer relationship with a particular dealer. In other words, loyalty to Mercedes or loyalty to the a dealer? Thanks.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,498
    It is my understanding that it is to either, depending upon the dealer. If you have a good relationship with a dealer, he is probably more willing. Also, I believe the loyalty is for Mercedes Benz Financial this summer. YOu might want to check it out. I got an APR of 2.49% for 66 months, but I am a customer of MB Financial as well.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • wolfekmwolfekm Posts: 18
    Does anyone know when the incentive 4k ends if you are a bmw owner? My husband's lease is up in Sept and we are looking to lease the E350. The dealer is pushing to do it immediately (def. before the end of July), and I would prefer to wait until August. Just trying to sort out if they are trying to get commission numbers in July, or if the incentive really ends this month.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,498
    I believe it is until Aug. 31st. Contact Mercedes Benz (800-367-6372). This is the roadside assistance number, but you can also press the appropriate phone button when prompted to get Mercedes Benz customer assistance. Then ask them to connect you to the proper party, which they will.

    Like I said, I believe it is until 8/31/2011, but I could be wrong. If it is 8/31, you have awhile. But according to my Mercedes Dealer, each dealer has so many they can use. Check that out.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • wolfekmwolfekm Posts: 18
    Thank you!
  • gosox1gosox1 Posts: 17
    Hi, thanks for this responses and the others. It helps to know for better buying experience.
  • cruzinbumcruzinbum Posts: 1
    hey alice,
    mind me asking where you got 46k 0 down 620 month offer, I am in nor cal also
  • mankumanku Posts: 33
    A brief comment on all MB's, after leasing 4 consecutive ones the last 10 years...

    The $1095 acquisition fee is highway robbery...Audi, for example, only charges $595.

    The $595 lease termination fee is obscene as well...industry standard is $350ish.

    Otherwise, cars (one c320 wagon, e320wagon, two e350s) have been mixed...new 350 engine is great, but a real gas guzzler. nav/audio system is awful. seats, handling fantastic. highway crusing superb. comfortable for 4.

    i had two black/black cars...while they looked great when clean (which lasted only about 6 hours), when dirty they look awful. i would only get a light exterior color and either beige or light grey interior, fwiw.

    also, if you plan on leasing another benz, don't buy the prepaid maintenance or excess wear and tear... two reasons: car is totalled/stolen you've paid for nothing, and when buying a new MBZ the dealer will overlook nearly everything...my last trade in had at least $1500 worth of exterior damage!

    and for people looking for 2011 e class, the new engine will be 20% more powerful and 20% more efficient...plus a 7 inch color display. if you're going to spend all this money (at least 10k/year inc. insurance/gas/car details), spend the extra $100/month and get the new model.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,901
    The $1095 acquisition fee is highway robbery...Audi, for example, only charges $595.


    MB Finance only charges $795.. the other $300 is dealer markup (with MBFinance permission)...

    BMWFS is $725 (which they allow to be marked up to $925)..

    I agree.. it's a ridiculous amount...

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,498
    edited July 2011
    My last E350 was a Black/Beige. I hated the black. It seems that 10 years go by between the time I bought a black car and the time I forgot how bad they were. When clean and waxed, nothing beats black. But....here in FL, we get rain every day. As soon as it rains, my black car had water spots all over it when it dried.

    That's why I just got a silver one with black interior. The silver shows "nothing". The black interior shows no grime or grit like my beige and light grays used to show.

    As for leasing, I haven't leased in 10 years, but I would never pay that king of uprfront money for a lease. It is robbery, in my opinion.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • For those you patiently awaiting the arrival of the '12 E350 sedan, my dealer just advised me that she won't have vehicles on the floor until the end of October. She could not even build one for me at this time.

    Cheers!
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,498
    edited July 2011
    I was just at my dealership this morning. He said they "just opened" the ordering software for them to order 2012 E sedans. He is going to order me an Iridium Silver and a Palladium Silver w/black interior with P1, Tire and Wheel pkg, rear spoiler and sport package for delivery in late October. Then, he said I can choose which one I like best.

    So, if you want to get one of the first ones available, now is the time to order one.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • krisktkriskt Posts: 2
    Bought today: Feldmann's Imports

    Capri Blue E350 4 matic Sport package
    Premium package 2
    Parktronic guidance, panorama sunroof, rear deck spoiler, 115 V outlet

    USAA discount ($3850 off of dealer invoice price), plus extra $1000 (negotiated with no trade in or financing)

    MSRP=$62,424 (including $875 destination charge)

    Price paid=$53,763

    OTD price (tag, title, tax, fees)=$58,082.10

    Good luck!
  • kc_06kc_06 Posts: 15
    Hi Abakomike:

    Sorry to bother you again.....but as I mentioned to you earlier that the deal that I made on the CPO car did not go through....since the car had some starter issues. The service center of my MB dealer also found out that this car had some water in the engine and so the GM does not want to sell this car to me since he thinks even though it is a CPO car I will be visiting the service center too often.....

    But since they do not have any other pre-owned car that meets my requirements, he has offered me a deal on a new 2011 E350 ....

    2011 E350W $49,400
    040 Black
    105 Almond MB-Tex
    P01 P01 Premium Package:
    R08 R08 Wheel Package: 18" AMG Twin 5-Spoke ,
    18" AMG Twin 5-Spoke Alloy Wheels
    Accessory Styling Package (Rear Deck and 3-Spoke Sport Steering Wheel ), AMG Sport Package,
    Power Tilt / Sliding Panorama Sunroof
    Black Ash Wood Trim
    Heated Front Seats

    SUBTOTAL $55,850
    DESTINATION & DELIVERY $875
    TOTAL $56,725

    He is offering me this at $47200, because he wants to make up for the problenm I had with the CPO car.

    My only issue is that this car does not have the metallic paint...just the ordinary black paint :-(....but I think that the deal is good....what is your thought on this...should I go ahead....I might be able to get him lower the price by another 1000....

    I would really appreciate your feedback....I doubt whether anyone else in my locality will give me this deal...

    Thanks
    KC
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,498
    The deal sounds like a fair deal. The panorama roof is extra, the spoiler is extra, and the tire/wheel package is extra (includes sport steering wheel and AMG 5 spoke wheels).

    Can I assume he is giving you the conquest discount? It seems from the pricing that he did.

    Unless he has another color (I just got rid of my black car and got a silver one because black shows everything, and I mean everything), which I would choose over black (gray, silver, white), I would take the deal. You are getting about 9500+ off the sticker, which is what I got on my car.

    So, unless you can't find another dealer with a different color, I would jump at it.

    Good LUck

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • kc_06kc_06 Posts: 15
    The black paint is also ordinary . not special paint which adds $720 to MSRP. The dealer emailed me yesterday nighe saying that they also have a palladium silver with similar package.......

    Yes, you are correct they are doing the Conquest and I think they are also adding the MB dealer loyalty discount, since the GM introduced me to the sales manager by saying he is one of the most loyal customer so make a deal on a new car of his choice that is the best.....since we could not deliver his selected CPO car....

    I had suggested 45K, when the GM came back and said that his final price is 47200......I will talk to them soon and maybe close the deal......too bad I could not get the steel grey....but this deal is too good.....

    Thanks
    KC
  • krisktkriskt Posts: 2
    I forgot to say it is a 2011 model.

    I asked for $1000 more off the price (beyond the USAA discount), but I don't know what the dealer is calling it. He did take down the information that I have an Acura MDX (not used for trade-in though).

    Curious thing that I only noticed AFTER I got home. The window sticker lists the P02 Premium Package, but heated front seats are listed separate from the package. There AREN'T ventilated seats, which should be part of the P02 package I thought....

    At least in MN most of the time that shouldn't matter!!
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,498
    The P2 package is about $2000 more than the P1. Yes, heated seats are listed separately, but you will notice that there is no charge for that because it is included in the P2 and P1 packages.

    If you are getting a brand new 2011 E350 with that equipment for the number you listed, it is an excellent price. Rememeber, they cannot give you the conquest discount "and" the USAA discount, it is one or the other. Sounds like a terrific deal.

    Good LUck.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • susa1susa1 Posts: 1
    Just bought a 2011 E350 4 matic black on black from Naperville MB dealer (chicago area). a few basic options: premium 1, heated front seat, rear split folding seat. MSRP 57805. Paid 47600 + title, tax, etc.

    I think it's good deal but don't know what you guys think. BTW, it's pretty easy to get a good deal from them, just ask for Ed.

    William
  • kc_06kc_06 Posts: 15
    I finally closed my deal with my local MB dealer for 2011 E350. Here are the details of the car:

    Model: 2011 E350
    Color: Steel Grey with ash/black interior and black maple wood trim
    755 Steel Grey $720
    108 Ash MB-Tex

    P01 P01 Premium Package: $4,000
    R32 18" 5-Spoke Wheel
    321 321 Sport Package: 18" 5-Spoke Alloy Whe
    413 Power Tilt / Sliding Panorama Sunroof $1,090
    736 Black Ash Wood Trim
    873 Heated Front Seats
    917 PZEV-Emission, USA

    SUBTOTAL $55,210
    DESTINATION & DELIVERY $875
    TOTAL $56,085

    With the standard steering the deal was made at $46104 ($9981 below MSRP), but finally I paid $46475, and made the dealer change my steering wheel to the sport 3-spoke steering wheel.

    Thanks for all the help.
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