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2013 and earlier-Mercedes Benz E-Class Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • lawcarlawcar Posts: 81
    Oh, I thought that the sport has the staggered 17" and 18". So if the wheel package comes with all 18", then you can rotate?
  • lawcarlawcar Posts: 81
    I'll check difference in monthly payments. If firm is paying, maybe it makes sense to get 48 month. Also depends on down payment. Do you recommend just paying drive-off?
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,765
    Took a few minutes to look up replacement tires. At the present time, the only tires that are guaranteed to have a tread life of 30,000 mile or more is Michelin. The tire is called PILOT SUPER-SPORT. Here are the sizes of the tires

    FRONT 245/40 R18
    REAR 265/35 R18

    I did not bother looking up prices, as these change frequently as do the kind of tires each manufacturer offers. But, if I were looking for replacement tires for my E350 Sedan, I would definitely purchase a set of these since they will give twice the mileage and, I am sure, not at twice the price.

    Hope this helps you out.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,765
    edited December 2011
    If the firm is paying, obviously the 48 month is more attractive. In fact, the 36 month is even more attractive - especially since the firm is paying you back for your out-of-pocket cost for the loan.

    You know more about what is better for you and/or your company - not me.

    I don't know if there is a minimum down payment required for the loan from Mercedes, but if they do not have a minimum, put as little as you want and still feel comfortable that the payments are "reasonable" for the company. Obviously, a company may not appreciate a $1500 a month payment. So only you can determine what is best.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,765
    No, you cannot rotate the tires. I just posted the tire sizes for the E350 Sedan so, as you can see, there is definitely a difference between front and rear tires.

    Again, I reiterate, YOU CANNOT, AND SHOULD NOT, ROTATE THE TIRES

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • lawcarlawcar Posts: 81
    Right. I'll do numbers. Salesman said on phone will sell vehicle for $7,000 below MSRP including conquest incentive. Does that sound legit?
  • lawcarlawcar Posts: 81
    edited December 2011
    I'll definitely keep in mind. That makes the tires more palatable.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,765
    Yes, that is an excellent price.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • lawcarlawcar Posts: 81
    I'll let you know if it comes to fruition and/or if there are extras once I decide to pull the trigger. Thanks again for all of your patience and advice.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,765
    You are more than welcome, lawcar. The most important outcome of all this has to do with you finding the right car at the right price with the right terms. $7000 under MSRP is about $3000 under factory invoice. That means they are giving you $1000 in addition to the $2000 conquest. That should pay for most of your remaining payments, I would imagine.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • I was supposed to meet someone this a.m. to buy or lease a new 350 cabriolet in so. calif. I wanted to check something out late last night, and came upon this website (I'm 65 and don't really do this stuff much). In any event I was just blown away by everyone's comments and insight.

    First, abacomike, (and the hosts), your commitment is tremendous. Thank you. I decided that there really were some things I hadn't thoght about (most notably luxury v spoorts in Los Angeles where the roads are full of potholes, especially in the hills, and I constantly scrape my car in my driveway). I also realized that as "smart" a guy as I think I am, I didn't have the first idea what the dealer invoice price was, other than to know we were starting with a Costco proposal. Theh I realized that all the "last week of the year" hype was pushing me to a place I probably wasn't really ready to go (since I have a used non mbz sedan and MINI Conv. I need to figure out how to dispose of). So, I took a breath, decided to chill, and I'm sure there will be more opportunities in this economy. (and I did email the sales guy and tell him I needed to pospone).

    But I did want to thank you all for your obserbations. they are/were very helpful and I'm sure to soon be back with real queastions. Happy New Year.

    sjm
  • Hi Lawcar:

    I gather you must live in or near the SFV. I'm trying to find someone around here to deal with. Have you had good experience with a specific dealer/person? Thanks.

    sjm
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,765
    Sounds like you need a bit of a respite prior to making a decision on the new car.

    The Cabriolet is the E350 convertible, 2 door. Remember, the Cabriolet is built on a "C" class body, not an E class body. So, the wheelbase is smaller as is every part of the car, trunk included. It also tends to be a harder riding car than the E350 luxury sedan.

    If you have not test-driven the E350 Cabriolet and/or the E350 Luxury Sedan, I would strongly recomment you do so without any obligation. You need ot make sure you are going to end up with what you will be most happy with.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • e2009e2009 Posts: 23
    The price of the Michelin Pilot Super 245/40ZR18 Treadwear 300 is about $256.00, the Michelin Primacy HP Treadwear 240 cost about $359.00 and the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus Threadwear 500 cost about $268.00.

    The climate is warm in the summer with very little rain and no snow in the winter.

    Do you recommend the summer tires or the all seasons tires?
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,765
    edited December 2011
    Definitely. I believe the tires that come on the E350 Sport are SUMMER tires. Down here in South Florida, we have no need for anything else but summer tires.

    The cost of the Michelin Pilot Super Sports are definitely worth the money. Remember, they are SUPER SPORTS. They have a treadwear guaranty of 30,000 or more miles per tire. And that is what is needed with these cars. 16,000 miles is not sufficient, in my opinion. That is why, when needed, I will put a set of those on.

    One thing that should be remembered is when you replace front tires, replace them all.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • lawcarlawcar Posts: 81
    Yes. I'll give my email and you can get in touch with me. I haven't finalized deal yet but the salesman is doing what he said on phone.
  • lawcarlawcar Posts: 81
    Hey, Mike,
    Went to dealer and salesman honored what he told me. Couldn't finish paperwork because had to leave for appointment that I had and will go back. Going for 60 month purchase as the monthly payment is lower and I can always pay off earlier if I want.
    Finance person was suggesting extras: GAP insurance for $795 because I'm putting only $2,500 down; Wheel & Tire Protection Plan ($1,595 for 3 years, $1795 for 4 years or $1995 for 5 years which covers the AMG wheels and tires for road hazards; and Extended warranty for 7 years ($3,390) since I plan on keeping the car for a long time. For all 3 he will charge $2,895.00 as a package. He can change the 60 month loan to 66 months and add these extras for $5.00 per month extra. He said that the wheel protection can only be done at time of purchase, and although the extended warranty can be added before factory warranty expires, it will cost more later and I can always cancel if I want and get prorated refund. I was considering paying for these instead of financing, but since company is paying and rate is low (0.9%), I think it makes sense to finance for the few bucks extra. Any thoughts? Thanks, David (PS If it's easier, I can give you my email address).
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,765
    Don't post your e-mail address on this forum - your privacy will not be protected, if you know what I mean.

    As a package, it seems reasonable. See if he will throw in maintenance for 3 or 4 years, or even 5 years. If he won't, see what kind of deal you can get for covering your A and B services. If you pay it out of pocket when you change your oil, etc., an A service costs about $330 each, and a B service costs about $500.00 each. If you get a package, you save some money. I also concur that the 66 month loan at .9% is FREE MONEY, so why not take advantage of it?

    Yes, you can pay off the loan at any time because it is a simple interest loan. I always take out a small loan because I will qualify for the MB Financial incentives when I get my next car in a few years - which are usually $2000 on a new car. That's the only reason I take out a loan - other than the low interest rate.

    You state that you are planning on keeping the car for a long, long time. If you mean you are going to keep the car for 7 years, that is a long, long, time. I suggest no more than 4 years because there are always innovations in technology, fuel economy, etc., that come out every 3 or 4 years. Remember, the E class will change body design in about 3 to 4 years, at the most. I suggest keeping the car for 4 or 5 years, at most. Remember, you will still be responsible for brakes pads, brake rotors, exhaust system, fan belts, and other normal wear and tear items which your warranty and service plans will not cover.

    Just think about revising your plans to no more than 5 years - which will reduce your warranty costs, etc.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • Bzjam,
    As per the forum rules you can include the dealership name and city and state without compromising the forum rules. That would go a long way in helping those who are unable to find the right CA or the right dealerships.
    Thanks in advance.
  • Yesterday I met with my dealer to finalize the payment for my '12 E350 Luxury sedan that is on order (and should have been in port yesterday! Yes, a little excited....) I was fully expecting to use the USAA incentive, based upon what the customer service rep at USAA had told me---I am a member---but surprise! You must have an insurance policy with USAA (Mike, I think this was your understanding, too, and you do have a small policy with them.) A big unpleasant surprise to me but it has a good ending. The SM said, let's just forget USAA....it's Winter Event and there's an E class loyalty incentive (huh??) and a DEP (huh??)---I really had the feeling he was pulling "incentives" out of his.... um....thin air. Too, I had the MBFinancial loyalty $2000... And in the end got me to exactly where I was with USAA. This tells me the dealers have a great flexibility on HOW to get to a number. I ended up a few dollars short of $7,000 under MSRP.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,765
    Yes. My Dad took out a $250 insurance policy on his ring. Cost us $25.00. Then, we were qualified for the USAA incentive.

    Yes, that is the kind of deal that people are getting with loyalty,etc. That's what I got, $7200 below sticker plus 3 years of maintenance, worth almost $1000. The USAA incentive was only $1500 ($500 over invoice less $2000). I was able to get both the USAA and the loyalty, as well.

    Sounds like you got a great deal. I just hope they get the car to you quickly. My port of entry is in Savannah. Then, they load it on a truck to Jacksonville. The Jacksonville port is not large or deep enough for the kinds of ships that bring Mercedes Benz Vehicles to this country. So there is a longer delay.

    Just hope you get it right after New Years, or, who knows, before? You are going to love the car. Those incentives sure come in handy, don't they? You got $4000 in incentives because of the double loyalty available - owner loyalty and MB Financial Loyalty.

    Just enjoy, and Happy New Year to you and your family!

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • lawcarlawcar Posts: 81
    Yes, I was thinking about keeping car for 7 years, only because my thoughts on buying were that I could own a car without payments for several years after the car is paid off, which is why I was going the purchase route rather than the lease. My deal is $7,000 below MSRP (inc. BMW conquest) at the 0.9% with $2,500 down and payments of $891/month for 60 months. The financing guy said that with my excellent credit and low down payment (less than tax and license), he would suggest a 51 month lease (since I was going the 60-month purchase), the drive off would be around $1,300 and payments would be $756/month ($135/month less than buying), with $0 cap and $27,000 residual which could probably be negotiated down when lease expires. I thought I would still go the purchase route. What do you think about the 51-month? I know that most leases are 36 months and MB normally has 30 months.
    With the extra service package, I was doing the numbers and while the extra $5/month for 66 months only adds up to $330, the extra 6 months at $896/month totals $59,136, which is $5,676 more than $891/month for 60 months. This is quite a bit more than first blush at the $2,895 package (since it is being financed). I saw what you said about the extended warranty; if I don't keep car more than 4 years I don't need it, and I can always buy it later.
  • Mike, do all the MBs go to one port (Savannah?)...or does it depend upon what part of the country they're headed to?
  • bzjambzjam Posts: 11
    I'm in Houston. The 2 dealerships that would go $6,000+ off were MB of Sugarland and MB of Houston North.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,765
    No, Jersey has one, LA, Seattle, New Orleans

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,765
    Yes! You just need to do what is best for you now. You have your deal, the rest is just signatures.

    Good luck.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • lawcarlawcar Posts: 81
    edited December 2011
    Hello, All,
    I would first like to thank everyone who has posted comments and suggestions and given information about the E350. Although I never met Mike or heard of him two weeks ago when I started looking at the E350, I truly appreciate the time and patience he has given to all of us; after all he isn't getting paid for this. I, for one, have learned so much. We all have opinions and maybe the impersonal nature of the Internet allows us to say things we wouldn't say if we were face to face. In any event, to all who agree or disagree, let's remember that we all have the E350 in common, either now or in the future.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,765
    I don't know why I bother, but here it goes again.

    I got 7200 below sticker off my deal, PLUS I got 3 years of maintenance. That's almost 8000 below sticker off the car I ordered and got in October. if your deal was 7000 below sticker, then the dealer lost almost 3000. If your dealer wants to lose $3000 (less his hold back which is about $1500, then fine.

    If you say you found a dealer who would sell you a car for a loss, then that's what you did. Without incentives or dealer cash or loyalty, which means the dealer has nothing to present to Mercedes for reimbursement, then he just lost money.

    HAVE LOTS OF LUCK WITH YOUR NEW CAR

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • lawcarlawcar Posts: 81
    Will do. Thanks again for all of your assistance and have a great new year!
  • tranavtranav Posts: 30
    I've had offers from several MB dealers in Southern California up to $9000 off the MSRP on new 2012 MB E350 for purchase and finance with MB at 1.99% interest.
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