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2013 and earlier-Mercedes Benz E-Class Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • ghstudioghstudio Posts: 920
    No...a solution is required. Porsche's don't have spare tires...they have run flat kits in the US (and rest of world) just as mercedes uses in the rest of the world. They have, however, blessed US drivers with the run-flat solution (with no options). Perhaps they are getting some special deal from the tire suppliers. It certainly isn't a better technology solution.....since they don't use run-flats anywhere else.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,109
    When I retired from educational administration in 2001, and became a salesman, then new car dealership sales manager, the only vehicle I remember that came standard with run flat tires was the Lexus SC430. The reason was because there was no room in the trunk for a spare (not even a compact spare) because when the hard top convertible roof was opened, it completely filled the trunk. This, that was my first experience with run flats. Very hard riding car due to those tires. I believe the car was introduced in 2002.

    Like I said before, if my new Mercedes E350 sedan came in only run flats I would not have bought one. That is how much I hate driving on run flat tires!

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  • Hi,

    What's a good deal on a leftover 2011 E550 with a MSRP of 72k?
  • lawcarlawcar Posts: 81
    Yes, the Michelin website has tires by sizes. What is the size of the wheels on the AMG wheel package (other than the 18")?
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,109
    Dave, the tires on the 18" AMG wheel package are the same size as on the sport model. All you get are the AMG wheels and the sport steering wheel. I don't have my owners manual here in the house, but if you look in your manual, you will find the tire sizes under SPORT E350.

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  • lawcarlawcar Posts: 81
    edited February 2012
    Thanks. Hopefully I won't need tires for a while. By the way, my mpg inched up to 17 mpg city stop and go.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,109
    I get a little more, but remember, I don't drive in stop-and-go traffic. If I am out shopping and going from store to store with speeds not exceeding 40 mph, I am getting about 23 mpg's. If on a freeway at a speed of 55 mph, I'm getting about 33 mpg's. At 65+ mph, I'm getting about 32 mpg's. Also remember I have 2800 miles on the car. Just turned 4 months old.

    As for the tires, I did see them available here in FL and my Benz dealer carries them in stock.

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  • lawcarlawcar Posts: 81
    That'll give me an excuse to go to Florida. Maybe I'll take a road trip with my wife.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,109
    I made that cross-country trip in 1991, from Ft. Lauderdale to San Diego, using I-10 most of the way until I hit Arizona, then the I-8 into San Diego. Let me till you something, during the winter months, it is a beautiful drive. For you, I-10 all the way to I-75 (Northern Florida) and the, I-75 all the way here. But, the summer months, which I did in 2000, is brutal, especially through the deserts and southern Texas. Temperatures hit the 110 to 115 degree levels. It takes about 4 to 5 days if you take a leisurely trip. Las Cruces is beautiful and so is San Antonio. I stopped off there for a full day to enjoy the river walk and the Texas Barbeque. New Orleans was also a nice visit, but a little south of I-10. Then, Tampa/St.Petersburg is a nice stay. Then, to Naples which is nice. Then, across allegator alley to Ft. Lauderdale suburbs.

    But I do know you are kidding. I also did the trip in the summer across the northern states (I-10 to I-15 to I-80, etc.). Not much there, but Pennsyslvania is a great state to do some leisure vacationing. Did that northern trip in 2 days, driving straight through in two nights. But I was younger then - could never do that again at my age with my bad back! LOL!

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  • abacomike,

    I have read quite a few posts and you seem to have good knowledge on E350's. I am new here and I am ineterested in buying a used E350? Which year to get? Is 2009 e350 a good year? Should I buy only from MB dealer or other dealers? If I am planning to keep till 100,000 miles where can i get the extended warrenty? If the vehicle is still under warrenty will any MB dealer sell and how much does it cost?

    Sorry for asking too many questions.

    Thanks
  • Looking at 2012. Have 2011 now. What differences has there been from 2011 to 2012 besides engine/tranny? Is it worth while to make the change? Any comments appreciated.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,109
    If you can find a nice 2010, with not too many miles on it, 36,000 to 37,000 should do it. The 2009 is also a great car because that was the first year they came out with the hard drive navigation system. You should be able to pick one up for around 32,000 to 33,000!

    When you are buying a late model Mercedes, I would buy it from a Mercedes dealer Who has CERTIFIED the vehicle through Mercedes Benz. That means the car is fully warranted for up to 100,000 miles for 6 or 7 years. Only a Mercedes dealership can get the car CERTIFIED.

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,109
    edited February 2012
    Aside from the engine (302 hp + vastly improved fuel economy - 20/30 mpgs) the rest of the changes were insignificant. I went from a 2011 to a 2012 because of fuel economy and horsepower and because I was able to purchase the car for $3500 under dealer invoice thanks to my USAA membership and great incentives they offered in October, November and December. Unfortunately, those incentives are no longer available.

    Many regulars here on this forum took advantage of those incentives and purchased new E350 sedans. They were offering 1.9% financing or less for up to 66 months which only sweetened the deal.

    If I could not get those incentives and interest rates, I would not have gotten the 2012. This, I suggest you keep your 2011 until or unless they come out with outstanding incentives and interest rates.

    I will add here that I am saving about 5 gallons per tankful on gas, which over a 12 month time period with gasoline at the highest in years with even more increases in prices coming, is SIGNIFICANT!

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,109
    Dave, I called Michelin and they looked up the tires by size. They are available in Y rated tires, but of the tires cannot be rotated (different sized front and rear like ours), they only guarantee the tread life for 15,000 miles, not 30,000. This, why pay a premium price for those Michelins when you can get replacement tires for around $100 per tire less?

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  • abacomike, thanks for all your help. Appreciate it very much. I found a 2009 E350 with 4 matic and P1 package and leather with 27k miles and single owner for 33k from Cadillac dealer. Is it worth pursuing or no? Can i buy this car and since it is still under warrenty can I get the extended warrenty from MB dealer? Will they sell me one? If you say I am better of buying from dealer a CPO I will pursue that route. Dont want to waste time. Thanks
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,109
    33K sounds just about right for the car. I would contact as many Mercedes Benz Dealers in your area and ask if they have any cars like that in stock that are CERTIFIED! Also, if they can meet the price with about the same miles on the car. If they can't, find out how much it would cost to purchase the extended warranty for up to 100K and 6 years or 7 years. My guess is that it would not be more than 1800 or so.

    That brings the cost of your car to 35K. I am sure you can find a certified 2009 with low miles (25k -35K) at that price.

    I always recommend that you purhcase from a dealership where the car has been certified. There are also some special finance rates available on certified MB cars from dealership through MB Financial.

    Good Luck and let me know how you make out!

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  • lawcarlawcar Posts: 81
    You mean that the tires through the dealer are $100 per tire less? Which tires are those?
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,109
    What I was discussing was the fact that if I were to purchase 2 front and 2 rear tires from Michelin (Pilot Super Sports), I would be paying about $100 per tire more than if I were to go to Pirelli or Continental and purchase the same tires (by size and rating) as the ones I got with the car.

    The frustration is that he better tires (Michelin Pilot Super Sports) will not be warranted for their usual 30,000 mile tread life because I would not be rotating the tires since they are different sizes, front and rear. So they cut the warranty to 15,000 miles tread wear for the life of the tire. That's about the same mileage I get on my standard tires (Continentals). So why pay $100 more per tire to get Michelins when they don't warrant the tread life for the full 30,000 miles. I wouldn't mind spending the $100 more per tire if I could be guaranteed they would last for 30,000 miles, but they would not!

    In summary, I am not going to pay $365 a tire to get Michelins if I can get Continentals for $250 or $260 a tire. The problems of tread wear has to do with the fact that the tires cannot be rotated. If they could, the tread life would be extended significantly. But Michelin is not going to warrant the tread life for 30,000 miles, only 15,000 miles for the reasons mentioned above. They only warrant 30,000 mile tread life if all four tires put on the car are the same exact size!

    Hope you understand, Dave.

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  • lawcarlawcar Posts: 81
    Got it. How are the Continental and Pirellis? I recall reading that Continentals are not great.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,109
    I've had Pirelli's on one E350, Michelin's on one E350, and the rest (4) had Continentals. I found the Continentals to be quieter than the Pirelli's and the Michelin's I had on the 2009 were the noisiest of all. I don't think they wear very well, but I got 18,000 miles on the set. Not bad considering you can't rotate these tires.

    I prefer a little quieter ride on the highway. I really haven't had any problems with the Continentals. Remember, I had 4 E350's with them and they all performed great. Bridgestone's and Continental's came with my BMW's, 2005-2008. They also performed well on the BMW, it was the car that I hated.

    When I am ready for tires, which won't be for about a year, I'll probably price them around town (Pep Boys, Tire Kingdom, etc.) and then go to my Mercedes Dealership who said he would match or beat any price I got anywhere else. I also have a $500 coupon the General Manager gave me which I will use toward the purchase. Looks like I won't hit 10,000 miles before my year anniversary in October. So, I guess that's when I'll have my first A service.

    Hope I haven't confused you, Dave.

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