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Jeep Wrangler Tires and Wheels

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  • Thanks for the advice,I did have a buddy of mine look for looseness, and we found none as far as drag link, ball joints,etc. Since my last post I did change out the pitman arm. the wobble seems to be gone, but now I have another problem. When I first tried to get the pitman arm off, I used a pickle fork. After beating on the pickle fork the pitman arm didn't drop, but the shaft out of the steering box did !!! about 1/4". I then used a pitman puller to get it off. Now with the steering shaft lowered, I have slop in the wheel. Is there some way to adjust for the slop or did I just wreck the steering box ? My steering wheel is not straight as well. Should I have adjusted the drag link ? thanks, Jim
  • Hey Tom (or anyone else out there) can you help a new jeeper? I just bought a 1990 6cyl Islander and wanted to do some mods to it. I was looking at a body lift and some wider tires but am unsure about the hieght of the lift and size of the tire. I want to be able to do the off roading as well as the drive around town. Any suggestions?

    Thanks,

    Disney :D
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    I can't address the lift specifics because I'm not accustomed to leaf springs vs coils, but you should be able to do a 2-3" shackle lift for an easy lift. You can also do a SOA (spring over axle) lift but that will cost more I think. As for tires, I think with either of those plus a body lift, you could easily fit 33's, but a lot will depend on the wheel's backspacing. You'll want wheels with about 4" of backspacing (factory TJ wheels are about 5.5") so they stick out a bit further to allow turning and flex offroad.

    Check out some of the online vendors and I'm sure you'll find something you can use. I just don't know enough about YJ suspension manufacturers to tell you specifically what would be best for you.

    Then you have to factor in budget. You can go TOTALLY crazy with it too. :)

    -Paul
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,304
    Well, I can't say enough good things about the Radial Rover RVXT tires that I fitted to my 1999 Sahara. The tires are all-season but also carry the severe winter service "Snowflake on the Mountain" rating. My gravel farm road got hit with over 12" of snow this weekend and the old Jeep negotiated the entire 1/2 mile in 2WD with no drama whatsoever. Ditto for the snow covered public roads. The RVXT isn't a serious off-road tire, but it merits consideration if your primary concern is being able to handle wintry weather.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • xbankerxbanker Posts: 1
    New guy here. Searched past posts; couldn't find question with my exact specs, but would like to verify what I think I've learned by reading.

    My car: 2003 Jeep Wrangler X (TJ). Totally stock (no lift etc) including the OEM tires/wheels: P225/75R/15 (Goodyear Wrangler GS-A tires).

    I'd like to put 30x9.50x15 tires on it keeping original rims, and would leave the Jeep stock. My reading here makes me think this would not create problems, e.g. clearance, rubbing etc. Would some kind soul please confirm.

    If it's relevant, my off-road driving is so mild, it would probably make most of you snicker, and I do occasionally tow small trailer/ATV; gross weight ~625 lbs.

    Thanks very much!

    Dan
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,304
    I'd like to put 30x9.50x15 tires on it keeping original rims, and would leave the Jeep stock. My reading here makes me think this would not create problems, e.g. clearance, rubbing etc. Would some kind soul please confirm.

    Those tires will work fine as long as your rims are 6.5 to 8 inches wide.

    If it's relevant, my off-road driving is so mild, it would probably make most of you snicker

    Not me; I only use my Jeep to haul the dog around and provide guaranteed access to my farm road regardless of the weather.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Dan, complete NON-issue. 30x9.5 is the size tire offered on the Sport package. Your stock wheels on the X model are 15x88's with about 5.5" of backspacing, much like the Canyons I run. I ran 30x9.5 BFG All Terrain's for a long time with ZERO issue. They are decent offroad unless you have seriously thick mud like we have here in the south.

    Just do NOT get the GS-A's again. BFG AT's (or even MT's) would be a great choice for your Jeep. They are very capable offroad yet have good tire wear on the street.

    -Paul
  • dtkaczykdtkaczyk Posts: 3
    I have a 95 wrangler. At speeds of 60-65 it is fine until I hit a bump. It then vibrates terribly. It will not stop until I slow down considerally. It will be fine again until I hit another bump. Could the damper be the problem?
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    The steering stabilizer/damper only masks problems.

    Do you have a lift? What size tires?

    I'd check all joints in your steering and ensure they are all solid. I'd also consider verifying balance and alignment as those CAN contribute to your problem.

    -Paul
  • karlw90karlw90 Posts: 59
    I just bought the Rubicon Express 2" lift kit and I believe I will be going with 32x11.15 tires. Obviously if I go with a spare of the same size, it won't fit on my current spare tire carrier.

    There's tons of options out there, but I don't want to have to install a separate swing gate, etc... just to store one tire. I noticed there are some Spare Tire "Spacers" that push your tire out 2" from the gate so it doesn't touch the rear bumper.

    Two questions - has anyone one here gone with this and has it worked out?? And more importantly.. what happens with the rear brake light with these? It doesn't seem any of the spacers and/or carriers address the fact that the brake light will be in the way or blocked with the larger tire.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    I tried one. It will raise and push out your tire. Result is that you have to bumpstop the tire against the gate with some kind of spacer as well. If not, vibrations will make your gate's life MUCH shorter. I did NOT like it.

    As for the 3rd brake light, you could probably leave it as it sits, or you could remove it, add a few washers to move it up in height, and have it work fine.

    I opted for a 3rd party tire carrier as I was going with aftermarket bumpers anyway for offroad use. Provided stronger tire support and body protection. The 3rd brake light is incorporated into the wheel holder (where the center cap usually is).

    -Paul
  • karlw90karlw90 Posts: 59
    If I can move up the brake light an inch, and buy a bumper that has a "dip" in it to allow for the extra tire length, can't I just us the OEM tire carrier?
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Technically, yes.

    But consider this - how much does that 32x11.5 weigh? Believe me, it is more than you think. That weight, over time WILL affect the hinges and sheet metal holding the tailgate on. Over time, it WILL sag. Maybe not as fast because it rests on the bumper, but opening it up removes that support.

    The Bestop Tire Carrier actually attaches to the tub, reinforces it, and attaches to the door, so there is no separate carrier to open - it opens with the door. It was actually my first choice for tire carrier before I opted to go with an offroad bumper/carrier combination. Plus it will work up to a 35" tire AND it uses the OEM 3rd brake light setup. So it can grow with you and the Jeep's size, if you opt to do that.

    -Paul
  • tracy3999tracy3999 Posts: 10
    Im starting to have the Bad Death wobble!!! I have 2004 jeep wrangler sport.. It does not have a lift kit on it.. the only thing the tires are a little bigger than the orginal once that came with the jeep!! My jeep only has 18,000 miles on it!! When i first bought it i had know problems with it, after a month or so.. it has started to bounce out of control just when i hit 50, 55 miles an hour!! Im sooo sad i love my jeep and not sure what the problem is.. i have heard many people talk about the death wobble but know one really knows why.. or gives a real solution why this is happening !! I have just dropped it off to a jeep dealer and they said that they have never heard of this problem!! Great .. i can only imagine what this is going to cost me!!! Is their any one out their that can give me a reason not a run around? Thank you soooo much.. Please help..
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    There are a lot of posts on this and the Jeep Wrangler thread about 'death wobble'.

    If you are not lifted, I would suspect either the tires are seriously out of balance and/or alignment. Easy fix - get em balanced and aligned or replace with better tires. Other causes may be loose steering components (tie rod, drag link, etc). If the dealer hasn't heard of death wobble, chances are you should find another dealer to work with. It can happen. Another possibility could be the tie rod ends and the holes they mount into are not as tight as they should be.

    You may also want to make sure your control arms and shocks are all in good order. A competent mechanic should be able to find loose or worn steering components.

    -Paul
  • sgreer721sgreer721 Posts: 1
    I have the same issue with the shaking at 50-55 mph. '04 Wrangler w/Rocky Mountain package, no lift kit or modifications. I had the steering damper replaced at 39,000 miles and it was fine. Now at 51,000 miles, it is starting to do it again. The alignment is fine, tires are balanced. The mechanic at the Jeep dealer now says its my tires (Goodyear Wrangler GS-A) and not my steering damper. Same tires since day one. I have asked them to check bushings, tie rods, etc and they shake their head at me with that "you are a girl so you have no idea what you are talking about" look. :mad: Anyone else have problems with these tires or does Jeep just make shoddy steering dampers?
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Steering dampeners/stabilizers only mask the issue and will not be the cause.

    The GSA's COULD be a problem as some tires just come the factory out of round and no balancing or aligning will stop that.

    Checking the bushings, TRE's, and all joints in the steering for looseness (including the trackbar mount on the frame) are all valid things to check.

    Get rid of those GSA's and get some BFG AT's (if you're staying on road) and hopefully things will be better.

    -Paul
  • sahara991sahara991 Posts: 1
    This is my 1st jeep..99 sahara. It came with mud tires that are pretty well spent & want to put something that is good for road mostly, not so noisy & rough, it has 16" rims & 3" lift on it. What do you suggest???
  • matt1320matt1320 Posts: 20
    My '00 TJ was ordered with optional 30x9.50 R-15 GY GSA's on 15x8 alloy wheels. The factory tires were making "growling" noise and thumping when at cruising speed. Problem was diagnosed by mechanic, and concurred by tire dealer, as broken belts in 3 of 4 tires on ground. The GSA's slipped in the rain and offered no traction in the snow. The GSA's were replaced at 32,000 mi. in 2-'03 with 31x10.50 R-15 BFG AT K/O's (including spare). The BFG's were chosen due to positive experience with them on my previous '92 YJ. The 31's fit the TJ well, only minor tire rub on lower control arm when at full turn lock. Four 31's were replaced in12-'07 at 90,000 mi(balance & rotate at each oil change). It is a reasonable compromise to a highway tire and a mud tire. It also meets the Rubber Manufacturer's Assoc. Severe Snow Condition criteria and wears the mountain/snowflake badge on the side wall. Other tires that have this rating are the Goodyear Fortera TripleTred, General Grabber AT2, and ProComp All Terrain. Steering stabilizer and shock absorbers begin to fade around 50,000 miles. If not doing anything "extreme", the premium Gabriel or Monroe units will be a marked improvement over stock. Hope my rant helps.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    My experience has been the same. Factory fitted 30x9.50 R-15 GY GSAs replaced at 30K with 31x10.50 R-15 BFG AT K/Os which will shortly be replaced at 90K. My rotation and balance schedule has also been every 3K

    An excellent tire on virtually all surfaces, on and off road, wet or dry, except for deep or squishy mud.
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