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Will There Be A New Baja?

If Subaru does build a new Baja for 2008, do y'all think they would build it off of the Tribeca or would it be built off of one their other cars or would it be it's own thing.
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  • Subaru shares all of its platforms, except the Beca.

    Impreza and Forester are on the same platform.

    Outback and Legacy are on the same platform.

    If I had to guess, there won't be a new Baja. But my hope would be that it would at least be on the latest Ouback platform, but better (for market demands) on the Beca platform.

    I have stopped holding my breath though, Subaru most likely would have annnouced something this spring. Next month (supposedly) is the last month of Baja production. Bajas may be hard to find, and may go at a premium, come the fall of 2006.

    John
  • JOHN,

    WHERE ARE YOU GETTING INFO ON BAJA DISCONTINUANCE?
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    not me, I am not spreading this rumor. Bob mentioned it in a blog a month or so ago (regarding Toyota taking over one of Subaru's production lines).

    I hope it is still continued, with a few minor modifications such as getting rid of the moonroof, I would trade in my Forester.

    John
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,662
    from a Subie salesman over at nabisco/LegacyGT.com...

    SOA Legacy wagon sales, year to date = 1856

    SOA Baja sales, year to date = 1859

    Yet, they are keeping the Legacy wagon, but have killed the Baja...

    Obviously the Legacy wagon sales do not include Outback models. This guy hinted that if Legacy wagon sales don't pick up, that the only Legacy wagon we may see in the future will be wearing an Outback badge. I have no idea how much truth there is to that statement. I suspect he may have heard that from someone at SOA, but that's just a guess...

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Outback sedan sales are even lower, though.

    Thing is, they have all the molds, body panels, so it doesn't cost much to keep making them.

    Also, Subaru made a mistake when they dropped the manual trans Legacy GT wagon.

    -juice
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    well, maybe they need to rev up the Baja again. It has to be looking pretty good at $3 per gallon, and no other small pickups available (except the Ranger, and that should be dead in the water a long time ago).

    John
  • How Sad that the Baja is going away...I have a 2003 Outlander and was looking at vehicles tonight...finally found one I could love, the Baja..a SUV with a truck bed, that looks really cool and gets good gas mileage and they do away with it. We can only hope that before the Outlander dies, they will make another Baja.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    the Baja did not have the lower body cladding and oversized foglights I believe it would have had increased sales. The styling was very polarizing.
    Overall, the Baja was a pretty neat vehicle and I'm sad to see it go.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,662
    ...that a new Baja may be in the works. This came from a dealer who heard it from other Subaru insiders. If it happens, Toyota may help them with factory space according to this guy. ...No, it won't be a rebadged Toyota truck if it happens.

    Bob
  • bat1161bat1161 Posts: 1,784
    A new Baja would be cool. Maybe by that time my wife will get her license and can take over the Outback. In which case there is no hurry from SOA :D .I've always thought of a Baja as a second vehicle would be fun.

    Mark
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    If so, I hope they base it on a stretched (yes, stretched) Tribeca platform.

    Build a Ridgeline that isn't hideous looking, basically. Ridgeline is wonderfully functional but scares my kids from any angle.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,451
    Absolute agreement here. The Ridgeline is functional enough that I actually considered it despite its hideous appearance. My wife, however, was not so forgiving. ;)
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    They could put on a toyota plastic bed like the Taco has.

    -mike
  • The Baja unfortunatly did not sell well at all. Even for us in New England. It is such a limited market. Subaru missed the mark with advertising. It happens. You won't see another one in a while. Currently Subaru has been discussing Convertibles and Hybrids.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I haven't heard anything about a convertible at all on my end. Hybrids probably will come from the toyota side of the house.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The other day someone pointed out the Tacoma crew cab is a whopping 208" plus in length.

    The Baja was, what, two feet shorter?

    They should have stretched the wheelbase. As it was, both the bed and the interior were too small.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,662
    Tacoma length? It's no different than other comparable trucks.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Correct, but what I'm saying is that the Baja was a lot shorter than any other crew cab, and that Subaru should have stretched the wheelbase somewhat over the Legacy.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters AustraliaPosts: 1,601
    G'day

    My guess is that it was the wrong product from the outset. Holden, GM's subsidiary in Australia also did a very good crew-cab in the previous generation of Commodore Ute. However nunbers sold have not warranted its continuation in the next generation Commodore. That is a real pity for the users who love it, particularly Police Forces who routinely run them with a small, washable, arrest van on the rear tray.

    The supposed inspiration for the Baja was the original Brumby (Brat to you) which was a much smaller and supremely agile ute, much loved by farmers, rural workers and many off road users here in Australia. It would go places you would not beleive and used ones are still highly valued thirty years after its introduction.

    The closest I could come to something similar would be a Two door Forester Ute. Now that would sell, Down Under!

    Cheers

    Graham
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,662
    I do hope Subaru brings back the Baja. Basing it off the next-generation Forester—and with the new boxer diesel and dual-range tranny, might not be a bad idea.

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I think we would see a drop top or a coupe before we see another baja, just a feeling.

    -mike
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    Build a Ridgeline that isn't hideous looking, basically. Ridgeline is wonderfully functional but scares my kids from any angle.

    1st gen Avalanche was ugly.
    Ridgline ugly.
    Baja ugly.

    It almost appears the designers went out of their way to make the trucks ugly, and very functional.
  • dcwestbydcwestby Posts: 29
    Well, I actually like the look of the Baja. Theres one at a Subaru garage/dealer near here off and on. So there are occasional sightings for sale...
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,662
    Funny thing about the Baja: Now that Subaru has stopped building them, Subaru dealers are getting tons of requests for a new version. I've heard this from every dealer I've spoken to about getting possibly a new Baja; and because of this, used Bajas are getting top dollar. Go figure...

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Well, supply was so low. So any demand at all is high demand. :D
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I'd be curious to see what my 05 LGT Wagon 5MT brings in when it's time to sell it. Hopefully it will retain some good value.

    -mike
  • I want a small pickup truck and I want it to be a Subaru! I've been telling Subaru that for many many years! I like the Baja, but not enough truck bed space in it. My Forester, 8 yrs old 112,000 miles is being used as a truck, because with the rear seats down, I can get something 6 ft long in there. My poor little car has hauled a LOT of firewood! But it sure makes it dirty quickly. In the past I've had a 60-something model wagon and a 1978 wagon....now the 2001. They seem to run almost forever.... rust out here on the coast it my biggest problem with them!

    So Subaru, if you are listening....Make a Good Little Truck with over 25 MPG! and a decent sized hauling space!!!! And 4 doors would be nice for the grandkids :)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    How 'bout a new Forester and a small utility trailer? Best of both worlds?
  • Nope. Don't want to have to go back home for the trailer when I find some great deal or something that I just have to haul :) I have a 74 Datsun pickup for close in trips when I know I'll need it, but I would not venture further than the dump (2 miles) in it. It's really old! I'd like to replace both rigs (pickup and forester) with just one rig that would haul anything and also have room for a couple grandkids :) Priorities :)
  • tiparrishtiparrish Posts: 1
    True .. Dealers can't keep them on the lot ... As soon as one shows up it's sold .. Everyone give me complements on my Baja ... I think it was a car that was put on the market before its time. With rising fuel costs, it's time for a new Baja Subaru should take advantage of this ... :)
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