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II understand your problem but I would not make a special trip to the dealer. Maybe next time you go in for oil change etc you might mention it. The reason I say this is the fact that I own a 09 LS460, since Sept 1st. I have found, where it is buried deep in one of the manuals where the car gets to know you. It functions in accordance with your habits. First car I have heard of that acts like this, although I think Mercedes high end has the same thing. As an example. Unfortunately I was sideswiped by an 18 wheeler and to make a long story short the battery was disconnected for 2 weeks. When I first drove the car again nothing seemed to work right, especially the radio, XM etc. But I am now finding that slowly but surely without me doing anything, things are beginning to return to my mode of driving. In your case you might just wish to check the battery terminals and also what else you carry in your pocket. Anywhere near a cell phone is a big no no. Don’t know if I have been of any help to you, but I do wish you the very best of luck. Also, I just happened to think.Are their any high tension wires around where your car is parked? This too could cause a problem with your remote.
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Just ordered a new L. Had to special order as it appears very few are being made in Deep Sea Mica without the rear seat upgrade. (The cool box takes up too much truck real estate for my tastes.) It will take about 60-90 days for delivery. For those in Los Angeles, Lexus Santa Monica made the sales process easy.
Actually I don't even believe 2.87 v would have caused a malfunction in the key. That's less than 5% below spec. So it might have been something totally unrelated. In any event if it happens again I'll post back.
The ride is noisy with definite thumps and front transmission noises which I would not expect.
The ride is harsh, as if the air ride is not working.
My sons 4wd Ford is smoother over similar roads.
The dealer says its tires. "Low profile are always noisy etc."
Any help would be appreciated
Sorry to hear your LS460 troubles. My 2008 LS460 has now 11,000 miles in it. The occasional transmission roughness and windshield noise are still there. I have accepted the car with these faults.
The way it is now, my next car is going back to MB S class.
I believe many Lexus fans simply over exaggerated the smoothness and quietness of their beloved Lexus.
As far as I'm concerned, everything that was wrong with the LS430, (and there wasn't much) was fixed with the 460, and the 460 is perfect. The drive is better, the ride is better, the seats are better, the features are better, the style is better, the power is better, etc. I'm completely satisfied with my 460. I had 2 430s before.
Very sorry to hear of your troubles with the LS460. I too took delivery a few months ago of the car. The driver’s seat literally collapsed and had to be replaced. I was reminded at the time that it cost Lexus $6,000 to replace it. A host of things started to happen not unlike what you are experiencing; so I finally dumped it and took somewhat of a loss. Am now driving a 2010 RX350. Newly redesigned after many years. Car drives like a truck. I have a bad back and I will have to get rid of this car also. In my humble opinion Lexus has taken to making their cars as cheap as possible and in turn charging more for them. When I drive the RX I feel like I am getting in and old coffee can and driving roughly and noisily down the street. I will get rid of this car ASAP and probably go to a Honda or if I still can afford upscale I will go with Buick or Cadillac or maybe even KIA. Let me say something here George. Your dealer can UNDO your deal. it is possible. I can’t reveal the details online but you can get out of that car without taking a bad hit. Just do it ASAP. You wait too long and .One more thing. Yes, I have driven Lexus for over 10 years. I will never ever buy another Lexus – period! :mad: :sick: :sick: :sick: :mad: Anyway good luck to you whichever way you go.
The fact is toyota lexus are the front runners with recalls, other than that its still 1 of the most reliable cars.
- OMG the car is quiet and smooth as silk; much quieter and smoother than my 02 LS 430. I have the adaptive suspension so maybe that is why it feels smoother. No bumps, no wind noise at highway speeds.)
- The Mark Lev. DVD 16 speaker system is fantastic. My i-pod connected in about 2 seconds and all my music appeared on the screen, organized like an i-pod. The sound quality is superb.
- No problem getting in and out of the car as some have reported. I'm 5'11" and didn't have any trouble with the foot well.
- When you step on the gas, this car goes! The engine roars into action. Great for coming up to speed on the LA freeways.
- The seats are very comfortable, and the leather is very soft. (I have the upgraded leather seats, of course! haha)
- I love the ability to go to the Lexus owners site and download destinations to the car. It's a very cool feature and easy to use.
- The bluetooth phone works great. The dealer synced the phone for me and now it's on autopilot. So far I made 1 phone call and the person said that they couldn't tell that I was in a car. The mic picked up my voice and she sid it sounded like I was on a land line.
- The fit and finish is beautiful. No issues.
- The dealer at Santa Monica Lexus did a great job going over the car with me and encouraged me to come back anytime if I needed help with any of the electronics.
Now you might wonder, what don't I like? I am struggling to find anything at this point. This is the nicest car I have ever owned. And so far I am VERY pleased.
I'll post from time to time as I become more familiar with the car and have more miles behind the wheel...just in case someone is interested out there in cyber land.
There is an extensive discussion about the problem that is likely causing the wind noise in your car. It is a lot of reading, so if you have some serious interest you should read all of it – 45 pages / 680+ entries.
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls460-ls460l-and-ls600h/352398-ls460-wind-noise-- - fix-continued-discussion.html
If you will contact me through the other site I will try to help you with some parts and instructions.
The door design is the same for all 07-10 LS460/600s. The wind noise in most of the cars is caused by a trim defect at the corner of the front doors. Although all of them don't have perceptible "wind noise" they will all be quieter if the trim is adequately repaired and those that have extreme wind noise will be transformed into exceptionally quiet cars. Repairing the trim is a $2/10 min DIY project - Lexus will not do this for you.
"If I test drive a car and found it to be quiet, is it safe to assume that it remains that way? or can the wind noise issue develop down the road."
The wind noise onset can occur anytime in the car's life. There are numerous reports on the Internet of wind noise onset developing miles and months after after the vehicle was put into service. Here is a link to a very well written comment regarding that sort of development: http://www.clublexus.com/forums/5098732-post652.html
There is an extensive discussion on this subject at: http://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls460-ls460l-and-ls600h/352398-ls460-wind-noise-- fix-continued-discussion.html
If you read all the discussion, it is very long, currently 46 pages, you will have a good understanding about the LS460/600 wind noise problem and you will understand that it can be fixed easily.
Once I purchase the car, if it is noisy, I am hoping to take it to the local dealer or body shop and show them your pictures and have them fix it, as I am a poor DIY guy.
Thanks once again.
You are wise to put your "wind noise audition" ear on standby while you select your car.
In the event that you will need to do a wind noise repair to your car you should avoid involving Lexus in that process as they are likely to do an inadequate repair and then that will add confusion. Getting it done at a body shop is a good plan.
I will be pleased to help you with some details and the most current information if you will contact me through the other site.
I love the "patent" humor.
Regards
- Wow, the car is quiet; probably much quieter than my 430. Also the 460's ride feels much smoother and takes the bumps better. This may be because my new car has the air suspension. It's definately a noticable improvement.
- The seats are softer and more comfortable. This maybe due to the semi-aniline leather in the 460, which I didn't have in the 430.
- The upgraded ML audio with 16 speakers is absolutely amazing. I love it. The sound quality is 100% better than the regular ML system in the 430.
- The navigation system is much improved. The graphics are much better. Also it's really cool how the XM traffic integrates into the navigation system. About 2 miles before I hit slow traffic, the system informed me that it was coming and for how long the traffic was backed-up. I couldn't do much about the traffic, but it was nice to know that it was coming up to calm the nerves.
- The car is powerful. When you hit the gas the car takes off. There's nothing like an 8-cylinder!
- When you turn the car off at night, the high beams stay on. I never liked this feature and will have the dealer turn this off the next time I go in for service. It just seems like a life-sucker out of the battery.
- The rear seat in the LWB is extremely comfortable. Those extra 4 inches are noticable.
- The telematics feature is also a nifty upgrade from the 430 nav system. You can go to the Lexus website, search a destination on your computer, then download it to the car. I think this method is faster than typing it in on the car's nav screen.
- When the engine is idleing or in 1st/2nd gear I can hear an engine ping; kind of like a sewing machine. I heard others complain of this but I don't remember what was said about it or if anything can be done. I'll bring it to the dealer's attention when I go in for the 1000 mile check. I think it might be normal, but just want to be sure it's ok. It certainly hasn't impacted the car's performance.
That's all for now.
It's normal, in that they all do it. Nothing can be done about it.
Foreign material? Who are they trying to kid. These are valve springs, not fuel injectors. Isn't it interesting that they will not recall 2009/10 LS models. When exactly did they learn it was a problem?
Lexus Announces Intention to Recall Certain
U.S. Market Vehicles to Replace Engine Valve Springs.
TORRANCE, Calif. (July 2, 2010) -- Lexus, a division of Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc., today announced that it has informed the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration of its intention to file a Defect Information Report (DIR) regarding approximately 138,000 Lexus vehicles, powered by 4.6 and 5.0 liter V8 and 3.5 liter V6 engines in certain 2006, 2007 and 2008 GS, IS and LS models in the U.S. The formal report will be filed the week of July 5.
In the covered vehicles, due to slight variations during the manufacturing process, some foreign material may have contaminated a small number of the valve springs. If a vehicle is affected, there is a remote possibility that abnormal engine noise or idling may occur. In extremely rare instances, the engine may stop while the vehicle is in operation.
Lexus estimates that the likelihood of a customer vehicle experiencing this condition is two-tenths of one percent (0.2 %). Lexus has received no reports of accidents or injuries related to this condition. No vehicles from the current 2010 model year nor 2009 are affected.
Lexus will send owners of the involved vehicles a recall notification via first class mail. Owners are requested to contact their local Lexus dealer for diagnosis and repair after receiving their notification. The repair will involve replacement of the engine’s valve springs at no charge.
Owners can continue to drive their vehicles. If symptoms are noticed, such as vibration, rough idling, unusual engine sounds or poor performance, the vehicle should be brought to a Lexus dealer for service.
-more-
Certain Lexus vehicles produced among the following models and years are covered:
Model
Model Year
2007
GS 350
2008
2007
GS 450h
2008
GS 460
2008
2006
2007
IS 350
2008
2007
LS 460
2008
2007
LS 460 L
2008
LS 600h L
2008
Customers with questions or concerns should contact the Customer Experience Center at 1-800-255-3987.
Have you received your recall notice? Mine is a 2008 LS460 and I have not received any.
I have been driving with jerking at low speed (not bad and consistent enough to fight for it). And, yes, the engine idles with pretty loud noise. That is one of the reasons why I complained on this board that many LS fans simply exaggerated the quietness of this car.
The issue with harsh low speed shifting has always been a problem with my car, although Lexus does not seem to recognize it as one. The noisy injectors are normal according to them. It is the same issue that causes knocking in a diesel motor. High pressure injectors. Cannot figure out why they don't make the noise all the time. Sometimes it is absolutely quiet. One of the many things that drive me nuts about this car.
brake to stop the car(and it stops), but once in while it will start to move slowly again. I took it to the dealer, and the chief technician drove the car with me and didn't notice a problem(he drove, I sat in passenger seat).. I've been driving for 45 years, and I would think I know how to apply even pressure on the brakes to keep the car stopped. Any ideas(other than a heavier foot on the brake)?
I took my 2007 LS in twice because of a clicking sound when I applied the breaks. They did everything to the breaks except fix the problem. Finally, a TSB came out from the manufacturer and voila, the cliking disappear the next time I took it in for a lube. If enough people complain about what you are experiencing, sooner or later a TSB will be issued and suddenly the person they used to call a mechanic will know what to do. Good Luck!