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Ford Freestyle Rear Brakes

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  • summewesummewe Posts: 14
    I've also had no other problems since having my brakes replaced. Love my Freestyle! ;)
  • bjbundybjbundy Posts: 1
    My 2005 AWD Limited Freestyle has begun having some issues with the brakes the last couple of days. It sounds like a grinding sound. Husband says that they don't work as well. Have to push harder to stop. Was going to take it this morning to a shop that has done all of our break work on all of our cars and is reasonable and does great work. I am thinking that maybe I should take it to our dealership and have them look at it if there may be a chance that Ford would pay some if not all of the bill. I have a feeling that it is more than just brakes. I think rotors, too. I don't know when our car was built. Is there a way to find out via internet using the VIN?
    Jodi
  • fejesfejes Posts: 1
    My '07 Freestyle w/22,000 miles needed back brakes and rotors. The service department at the Ford dealer told me this certainly shouldn't happen at 22,000 miles yet the extended warranty only covers back brakes/rotors up to 18,000 miles. My front brakes are fine. Any one else have this problem with their 2007 Freestyle?

    I have had other problems such as brake light switch replacement, brake lights. The waranty covered the replacements yet the time spent waiting at the dealers wasn't something I expacted when purchasing my first "new" car in 20 years.
  • Good luck... I have a 2005 for Freestyle 2WD and I took it in for the replacement brakes at 16000 miles. I just took it in to have the power steering looked at (33000 miles) and they told me the rear brakes were shot and grooving the rotors. Even though the car is under factory warranty they told me that they will not fix the problem. They said the new brakes installed were under a 12 month 12000 mile warranty and because I had gone 17000 miles that they could not fix them. I called Ford corporate and they told me that "Ford had nothing to offer me at this time." I had the manager call me back and he said Ford replaced the brakes as a one time courtesy (he said it was not a recall) and that basically it was up to me now because they were outside of the 12/12000 warranty. I told him that I was upset that it ruined my rotors and I was not aware that I was going to have to change the rear brakes every 15000 miles. He said sorry and that was it. I have been a Ford man my entire life but my advice to anyone looking to buy a new car... Get a Toyota. If Ford and GM keep turning out crap and not trying to help their consumers they will be out of business in a few years anyways. Everyone I talk to about the brakes knows that they should not be shot in 17000 miles but they are not willing to do anything about it.
  • kjnormankjnorman Posts: 243
    Our Freestyle is basically a rolling trash can for my wife and two children. The last time it was serviced was July 2007. I kind of missed the last service or two and the oil change light has been blinking since November 07.

    Well I finally took the car in for a 3 year, 30,000 mile service and overall the Dealer said the car was in excellent condition apart from needing new rear brakes. He stated the rotors are fine but would need to be machined. Unfortunately, because I've been a delinquent with servicing, I've missed the extended warranty on the brakes (I got the car is May 05) so I'm going to have to foot the bill.

    Last time the car was in (in July 07) I really quizzed the dealer regarding the brakes hoping to get them all changed for free but he stated that they were fine with plenty of life left at the time - so I kind of forgot about them. Since then the car has been doing more miles so I guess they have worn out faster... :(

    I asked the dealer if all the pads needed changing because our car is AWD and he stated that it was the same OEM pads going on as were taken off, and that our car did not have the old style of pads. Still he stated that if it was done under warranty then Ford would have done all the pads, but as I am paying for it, there was no need (there was still 50% life left on the fronts).

    So on the whole, apart from the rear pads, I would say this car is bulletproof.
  • I have the same problem and my husband took it to a local shop to get it fixed, and was told it will cost him 380.00, I called a Ford dealership and they looked it up and told me that there is a group of 07 Freestyle's that were built from July 06- through Nov.15th 06 that the rear brakes and roters are bad, and to bring it in and they will replace for free.
  • I have a freestyle 2006 and have put about 30k in a year, I received a recall letter last sept. on a recall on the brakes ive had them checked everytime i get an oil change at 6000 mi. ive never been told anything was wrong with the pads or rotors. I have always asked for the brake check each time i rotate at oil changes this last one they said my left rear was gone and the rotor was grooved. we are previously changing pads ourself because ford wants about 300.00 to do this pads and labor. i generally upset that between changes i can wear a pad that quick. they also told me that they changed my brakes at 21,000 and put new ones on. I bought the car with approximately 21,700 miles on it. they said nothing at any of my other oil changes that they had been changed out, now the computer system says they did that at 21,000. also didn't get it in the quality checklist that they
    d been changed. we cannot get the cylinder to compress back down does any one know how to do this. Thanks in advance
  • red27red27 Posts: 2
    I have just done 15,000 miles (in two years) and at today's service I was told that the rear brake pads were worn out and needed replacing under a Ford program for free.
    Not very impressive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • '07 Freestyle SEL Fwd with 24,000 miles. Heard brake noise two days ago, thought it might be due to rain/wet brakes. Husband heard same noise yesterday and checked. Front brakes are good. Rear brakes are shot and rotors are grooved.
    Called my local Ford dealer and was told that it is not uncommon to have to change brakes every 15,000 miles and the warranty didn't cover the rotors. They had no suggestions on how to keep from ruining my new set of rotors. Is this just a car thing? Or a Ford thing?
  • My 06 Freestyle has 26,000 miles. I took it in today to the dealer I purchased it from (I bought it new). There was a grinding noise in the back. Turns out it was the rear pads and roters.
    I asked the service man about why the brakes would wear out so quickly and he said its because of the design of the Freestyle. Its on a Volvo chassis and the rear brakes kick in prior to front to avoid the harsh braking feeling. That makes the rears wear out faster and means that instead of replacing the front brakes more, its the rear. They are fixing my brakes for free but I need to ask more questions such as 'why' and 'which kind of pads are they using to replace them".
    I don't think just the way the car is made should result in poor rear brakes, I'm told it could be a defective switch (don't know the name but it controls which brakes apply how much pressure). This would possibly be fixed because Ford might have sent a maintenance letter to their dealers saying to replace it. I haven't been able to find any such letter though.
  • bdymentbdyment Posts: 549
    Your service advisor has quite a story there about rear brakes being applied first. I wonder where he heard this nonsense. The fact is that the rear brake pads were manufactured incorrectly and hopefully the new pads are made to the proper specs.
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,784
    "Your service advisor has quite a story there about rear brakes being applied first. I wonder where he heard this nonsense. The fact is that the rear brake pads were manufactured incorrectly and hopefully the new pads are made to the proper specs."

    My understanding is that a batch of brake pads got water damage before they were installed, and therefore failed prematurely.
  • I must apologize, its been a while since my 05 500 had the brakes done......Is the Freestyle/500 "program" still in effect for vehicles that have not had it done? If yes, is their a mileage max, anything thing else, etc...?? Please advise, again, sorry I forgot!
  • Copy of Ford recall letter for reference:

    EXTENDED COVERAGE PROGRAM
    07N10 Certain 2005 through 2007 FWD & AWD Ford Five Hundred, Freestyle & Mercury Montego Vehicles - Rear Brake Wear

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Frank M. Ligon
    Director
    Service Engineering Operations
    Ford Customer Service Division

    Ford Motor Company
    P.O. Box 1904
    Dearborn, Michigan 48121

    July 3, 2007

    TO: All U.S. Ford and Lincoln Mercury Dealers

    SUBJECT: Customer Satisfaction Program 07N10
    Certain 2005 through 2007 FWD & AWD Ford Five Hundred, Freestyle & Mercury Montego Vehicles - Rear Brake Wear

    PROGRAM TERMS

    This program extends the warranty coverage of the rear brake pads to 3 years of service or 36,000 miles from the warranty start date of the vehicle, whichever occurs first. If a vehicle has already accumulated more than 36,000 miles, this coverage will last until December 31, 2007. This program provides one-time replacement coverage, and is automatically transferred to subsequent owners.

    VEHICLES COVERED BY THIS PROGRAM

    Certain 2005 through 2007 Model Year Ford Five Hundred, Mercury Montego FWD & AWD and Ford Freestyle FWD vehicles built at the Chicago Assembly Plant from Job #1 2005 through November 28, 2006.
    Certain 2005 through 2007 Model Year Ford Freestyle AWD Vehicles built at the Chicago Assembly Plant from Job #1 2005 through Job Last 2007.
    Affected vehicles are identified in OASIS.
    REASON FOR PROVIDING ADDITIONAL COVERAGE

    Some of the affected vehicles may have had direct exposure to moisture for an extended period that may have caused the pads to "swell" and create a slight drag condition. Low levels of brake drag might not be noticed by a customer, but could lead to premature brake pad wear and excessive brake dust.

    SERVICE ACTION
    2005 through 2007 FWD and AWD Ford Five Hundred, Mercury Montego & FWD Freestyle Vehicles

    If an affected vehicle experiences the condition of rear brake pad premature wear (below 3mm thickness), dealers are to replace the rear brake pads and if necessary, turn or replace the rear rotors, if they are below the thickness specification. This service will be performed on affected vehicles at no charge to the vehicle owner.

    2005 through 2007 AWD Freestyle Vehicles

    Due to the configuration of the braking system on AWD Freestyle vehicles the front brake pads must be replaced when rear brake pads are replaced. Therefore, this program will allow replacement of front brake pads, but only if the rear brake pads require replacement during the same visit.
    If an affected AWD Freestyle experiences the condition of rear brake pad premature wear (below 3mm thickness), dealers are to replace the front and rear brake pads and if necessary, turn or replace the rotors, if they are below the thickness specification. This service will be performed on affected vehicles at no charge to the vehicle owner.

    NOTE: Brake pad inspection is part of normal maintenance and is not covered as part of this program. If the vehicle is within this extended time and mileage coverage and the owner experiences a brake system symptom or during a normal maintenance inspection (brakes every 15,000 miles or more often, per the Scheduled Maintenance Guide) the vehicle's rear brake pads are found to have less than 3 millimeters (0.118 inch) of lining material, then Ford Motor Company will cover the cost of replacing the rear brake pads.

    OWNER NOTIFICATION MAILING SCHEDULE

    Mailing will begin July 9, 2007.

    ATTACHMENTS

    Attachment I: Administrative Information
    Attachment II: Labor Allowances and Parts Ordering Information
    Attachment III: Technical Information

    Customer Notification Letter
  • I am going to change the rotors/pads on the rear of my wifes Freestyle. Any special tools or adjustments I need to know about?

    Thanks!
  • volfangaryvolfangary Posts: 105
    Just had my second set of rotors and pads put on. First time Ford paid for them at 28,000 miles. This time I did at 53,000, $385. Put ceramics on this time. Will see how they do.
  • 2 new rotors and new pads cost about $120. The only problem was compressing the calipers. Each side turns a DIFFERENT direction which the generic tools that work fine on the GM products don't do. Used Vise Grips and a clamp to do the passenger side. Sure would be nice if the pads had the indicators that squeal to let you know it's time to replace them, rather than making you keep an eye on the thickness of the pads or wait for the gggrrinndd that lets you know it's too late!. Guess it forces more people to get service and/or spend close to $400 for the dealer to do what I could now easily do in less than 45minutes and only spend $120 or less than 25 minutes and $20 if only replacing the pads.
    Still really like the FREESTYLE though and will just pay more attention.
    freestylephil
  • 1st off, thanks to everyone here who posted, I used your info to fix my wifes brakes on her 07 freestyle. Here's my contribution, I followed the instructions and rented a caliper service kit from autozone and accomplished the LH pad change out with no problem. I struggled with the RH for a day & couldn't get it because the counter clockwise rotation was not compatable with the rented tool (Clockwise only). I went to the local harbor freight and they had the clowise kit for $19.99 but they also had an 18 piece set for $39.99 with two spindles one reguler (clockwise) & one with left hand threads to use for compressing & turning the piston counter clock wise...yes! Bought it home and finished the pain in the butt CCW caliper in 5 minutes. Here is the kit I bought & a link to buy it online if you dont have a harbor freight in your town, again thanks for the help on fixing my wifes brakes
    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=97143
  • I have 85000 thousand on the car,have put on four set of rear pads, all works fine for a short time, then the rear brakes start to dragg.
    This happen only after I back up and try to pull forward, I can hit the brakes and they seem to free up.
    I notices tonight when I backed up at Wal Mart they dragged when I pulled forward, so I went out in the lot away from the other cars pull into a spot, park and backed out and to see what would happen, with out giving it the gas to move forward.
    the car would not move on it own for a few seconds and then it just pulled forward with no dragg what so ever.
    So that tells me the Calipers are not releasing as they should, any thoughts on this matter.
  • I just got back yesterday from my oil and tire rotation to be told my rear brakes are gone AGAIN at 34K! They were just replaced at 15K and I had them checked regularly! Last Sept at 24K I was in the yellow but was told Ford would take no action at that time. Now the action they are giving me is none! How can an obvious defect in either design or equipment just be blown off like this?

    Isn't this a lemon law issue? :mad:
  • Going to the Ford dealership Tuesday about these brakes. If Ford will not fix them I am taking it to a private place Thursday. I also contacted a lemon law lawyer here in Wisconsin. He wants me to call him back Wednesday with Fords answer.

    This should not be acceptable in any way shape or form. My next car will be either a Subaru Forester or Honda CR-V. Enough of this .....

    I wonder if the Tarus X was a change because of all the problems with Freestyle! How can you go three model years with rear brake issues and no fix?
  • I filed a complain with the nhtsa on this break issue. I suggest everyone else do the same. Something needs to be done we shouldn't be eating the cost of this every 15-20K

    http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm is the website
  • I took my 2005 Freestyle (93K miles) in for maintenace service today and they said I need rear brakes/calipers again (4th time for brakes). I think I've had enough. Ford replaced the brakes once, reimbursed me once, and the third was on my own. The brakes/calipers on the rear will be $1068. Enough is enough.
  • OMG....I have had enough too. Ford told me they only guranteed the replacement brakes for 12K so I am out of warranty for those....which is BS since the TSB extended the warrnaty to 36K or 3 years. Not only that I was vigilant about having them checked and when they were in the yellow a year ago with only 10K on them they blew me off then.

    I filed a complaint with the nhtsa which is www.nhtsa.gov about this being a safety issue that maybe if enough freestyle owners filed they would light a fire under Ford.

    Alan Mulally was just on CBS Good Morning this past Sunday saying how Ford is turning their business around yadah yadah! I am writing him a letter about this with the whole story!! Do not contact the customer service center they will just blow you off. I am assuming Mulally is at ford headquarters in Dearborn so....

    The more we all scream about this issue maybe we will be heard....makes me wonder what CHANGES they made on the Tarus X!!
  • I took my Freestyle to an independent garage today recommended by a friend. Apparently the company they order parts from has heard of this issue and is recommending a different set of pads to try. Both rotors are being replaced too and my brake lines need to be flushed out due to water. That part they said is normal due to time, climate and if I park in a damp garage.

    My calipers were good and so are the front brakes. i had requested a radiator flush and they said it tested good and factory recommendations wasn't until 100K or to retest every so often.

    I will post the name of the brakes etc when I get it back tonight...maybe this will help others.

    Pattie :lemon:
  • Now I got told there was a brake swelling issue when this first happened! Ask anyone with a Volvo if they have the same problem...bet not!

    I am getting my second set of rear brakes and now rotors in 34K in 4 years! needless to say I am NOT happy with Ford...filed a complaint with the NHSTA and the state of WI lemon law. People need to scream and raise hell about this!! Models 2005 thru 7 have an issue with rear brake wear!

    An independent shop is trying a different type of brake shoe to see if this works better...will post later check this list

    pattie :lemon:
  • Somewhat related question. Ford replaced our 2007 Freestyle Limited's brakes at 26,000 and I just had them replaced at 58,800 yesterday, this time NOT by our Ford dealership and at my expense. It was just the back brakes. The place that replaced them is trustworthy. I've brought my truck in twice and they sent me home at not charge and told me my pads were fine, so I DO trust them.

    The guy said that it "looked" like whoever replaced them before put fronts on the backs. I thought quick enough to get the pads from him, but I'm dump founded on how to find out if that was the case.

    Here are all the numbers on the pads, anyone else have any suggestions?
    Bosch, KF 6008, 0204, 207464, then there is 211.7 on 2 of them and 215.7 on the other two.

    This was our last Ford, between my wife and me, it was our 6th, and we've NEVER had problems with them like this one. We are waiting a Throttle Body to come in so it can be replaced. The part is back ordered until December. We can at least drive it, for the moment.
  • I am tired of reading about how Ford continues to ignore this issue. There is no recall just a TSB. Brakes wearing out at 15K to 20K miles is NOT "normal". My expert mechanic (X-Ford and certified) looked at my 2005 Freestyle "premature" brake wear. The problem is clearly a design flaw. Also, being the same platform and sharing brake parts, the 500 has the same problem but usually goes longer to 30K miles which consumers and so-called "mechanics" just accept as normal. This is analagous to a doctor who doesn't know what's wrong with you but just keeps prescribing medicine and charging you for the office visit. It appears the caliper is not built to correct specs, allowing the piston to push the pad too far and into a cocked or jammed position, wearing and eventually scoring the rotor.. This does not allow the piston to return to its original position (when you let up on the brake pedal) thus causing drag and the premature pad wear (12-15K miles). The unique (flawed?)design requires the pistons to turn into the cylinder and requires using a special tool when replacing pads. On the 500, the pins could also "freeze" as a result of the piston problem. In my 2005, according to my expert, the piston traveled ALL THE WAY OUT but luckily the cylinder did not leak. If it had leaked, that brake would fail and the balance system should still allow you to brake but possibly causing loss of control like to a woman with kids in the car. Ford and their dealers have virtually ignored the situation and deny any problem (too few cars to worry about). Whatever happened to their Customer Satisfaction Program? My expert says the only preventive step is to replace the pads BEFORE they wear to this point or the same problem will occur as it has for MANY other owners. Its much cheaper to replace pads than calipers and rotors. Ford will do nothing on a car being phased out, although there have been recall notices on the 500 since they are keeping them. But the two cars SHARE all the brake parts so the 500 forum will be getting much bigger.
  • What a bunch of whiners you are. It's obvious the car has underdesigned rear rotors - Ford screwed up. It's obvious Ford is floundering. But all in all the 05 Freestyle is an excellent car of far superior value and safety to Subaru or whatever else is out there. In fact, the Freestyle is designed based on Volvo, Ford had access to all of Volvo's designs when they bought Volvo years back.

    The fix is simple - spend a little more money and buy rotors that are slotted and drilled - therefore remain far cooler. In fact I never replace rotors on any car that are not slotted and drilled. Also use ceramic pads that are almost always guaranteed for life. Sure it will cost you a few hundred more bucks for this kind of upgrade, and I'd agree it is Ford's fault, but it's well worth it for every car you own whenever you replace the rotors. And in the end costs less than your pathetic effort of your endlessly complaining, and less than buying a Subaru.
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