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Mazda5 Suspension

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  • petesmazda5petesmazda5 Posts: 12
    My 2007 Mazda5 has creaked winter/summer since I picked it up new from my lousy dealer in Whitby, Ontario, Canada (I won't mention the name). They wasted my time trying to fix it and never could. Finally when the car ran out of warranty they said I would have to pay for them to try and fix it with no guarantee that they could fix it. Ever.

    I just consider it a lesson learned on what brand not to buy ever again. I'll sell it this summer and try a company with better engineers. After all, if they can't fix a simple squeak can I trust the air bag to work in an accident?

    Now I'm seeing rust all over the roof which is pathetic since I hand wax my car three times a year, spring, summer, fall so it has good paint protection.

    And no, Mazda Canada was no help whatsoever.

    Sad to say I owned a GM once and it was actually better!
  • poohbear9poohbear9 Posts: 2
    own a 2009 m5 with 80000 mile with rear suspension noise. going to replace shocks with koni FSD's and follow advice of lubing rear spring seats and possibly replacing bushings as you suggested, maybe end links. question: any advice at getting a comprehensive service manual for $50 or less? Also considering replacing front/rear springs in the process. any experience with this as to whether it would help (replacing springs)? thank you
  • davichodavicho Posts: 190
    You can probably find a used or even new shop manual in eBay for about that much. The front springs require a spring compressor to release the tension but the rears are very easy to remove and replace. You'll need a tower and a jack, remove the rear links from the lower control arm and the lower control arm bolt to the knuckle and springs come out. To install reverse the process but use the jack to compress the spring and lower control arm to fit the bolt.
  • poohbear9poohbear9 Posts: 2
    thanks. had dealer look at it and the noise was coming from the rear spring seat being worn and the spring isn't sitting exactly where it should and is rubbing the frame (housing) in which it sits. Going to replace the spring seat and clean and grease the area and keep an eye on it. the dealer sprayed some lube on the area and that has gotten rid of the noise but I imagine it will return soon.

    Anyone have any experience with purchasing the DVD repair manuals on ebay? Actual hardcovers on ebay are selling for $150 for the 2009.
  • homerkchomerkc Posts: 113
    We drove a Mazda 5 as a rental car a couple of months ago and loved it. We were planning to buy ... until we saw this thread. Are the suspension problems fixed on the 2012's? Replacing bushings and tires due to early wear makes the cost to operate quite high.
  • brammerbrammer Posts: 1
    edited June 2012
    Our 2009 Mazda 5 has gone through 5 shock absorbers in 47000 km. We tried getting resolution from Mazda Canada, they refused, calling this a "normal wear item".

    Nice car, as long as you don't mind changing your shocks with your oil :(

    Oh yeah, and the "creaking" continues.
  • staypuftstaypuft Posts: 6
    With 19.5k on the odometer and 20 days or so left on 3/36 warranty we just had a blown driver-side shock replaced. The symptom was clunk noise over bumps. Dealer replaced just the one shock.
  • 114K miles, and I finally bought a daily driver because I could not stand the noise from the front - it sounds like the wheels are about to come off. My mechanic replaced bushings, tie rods, etc, and told me "the only thing left to replace is the steering rack." I kept the vehicle for its utility but I can't handle the racket for more than an hour. It will keep me from buying a Mazda again - shame, as the vehicle is otherwise sporty to drive, and nothing has fallen off or broken.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,323
    After 114k miles, you have a noise that a bad mechanic can't fix ... and you are swearing off mazda for this. Alrighty then.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • Bought this 2008 Mazda5 GS in March 2012 with 48,000 km (SW Ontario, Canada). I have four small kids and didn't want to go in a minivan or SUV. The car is great and I also wanted a manual transmission which this car has. I knew that Consumer Reports had a black dot for suspension. So, I didn't really care about squeaking from the back or occasional scraping/grating noise from rear suspension that would appear when loaded car went over sped-bumps. However, a week ago the car developed a thumping noise from the front passenger side when going over bigger bumps. It would be nice if it's a front strut and that's all that needs replacement, but after reading postings on this forum thread, it could be many more things...
  • davichodavicho Posts: 190
    Dont sweat it. It is very likely going to need struts or front sway bar bushing or both...nothing more.
  • vicenacvicenac Posts: 229
    So our 2010 makes my 7 year old sick when driving for a long time. Headache on straight roads and vomiting on winding roads. Actually on winding roads i even feel a little dizzy. I thought it was my extra sensitive child and the way the road is, but we rented a Mustang and went on the same roads, drove faster and no sickness on my part.
    I have 32k miles on it. I'll change the shocks in the rear because they are the usual suspect and because of the mileage. Any other suggestions? Are there stronger sway bars out there, for example?
  • davichodavicho Posts: 190
    Yes replace the rear shocks with (cheapest to more expensive)

    Monroe
    KYB
    Bilstein
    Koni

    and replace your rear sway bar bushings with Prothane polyurethane bushings. Note: you will have to buy 2012 Mazda5 rear sway bar bushing clamps because the original clamps from 2010 and under are way to small to accommodate the new bigger bushings.

    Prothane Polyurethane Bushings
  • vicenacvicenac Posts: 229
    Sweet!
    I just changed my rear disks with Raybestos Advanced and inspected the rear suspension for the first time. This is going to be a really easy job.
    The Monroe 5607 seem to cheap, indeed.

    I followed your link to buy the bushings, but it says 04 and 05 Mazda3. I also bought the cabin air filter that says Mazda3 and not compatible witht the 5, although it's the exact same thing.
    I just want to make sure.
    Where do you buy the clamps, medcenter mazda?

    Thanks!
  • vicenacvicenac Posts: 229
    One more thing: I had the privilege of riding in the very back recently :surprise: and I heard this noise like a hhhhhhhr interrupted by an uu, so like a wow wow. The smoother the road the better you can hear it.
    I used to hear this noise in the back of old Dodge minivans. I always thought they're worn out bearings. I looked for rear bearings for this car with not much luck.
    Any ideas? thanks!
  • davichodavicho Posts: 190
    Hello,
    The link does say for Mazda3 but those are the exact bushing I installed on my 2006 Mazda5. They are the 19mm Prothane bushings. The clamps you can get from any dealer online or not. Make sure to specify that they are for a 2012 Mazda5 rear sway bar clamps.

    I can't comment nor confirm that the cabin filters are the same for Mazda3, because I have always bought them as Mazda5 filters....sorry.

    Lastly, I have heard from a few owners about rear wheel hub and bearing noise in which they had to get replaced, so you may have that as well. It could also be un-even worn tires partly due to weak shocks.
  • vicenacvicenac Posts: 229
    Awesome!
    I found KYBs on Amazon. Bilstein does not make shocks for the 5. I replaced the rear shocks (how easy) and what a difference! I have always had a little trouble keeping this car straight - small corrections all the time - but no more!
    The car is stable, the roads are smoother, the kids read in the back through 300 miles with no issues.
    On the other side I want to respond to a previous post complaining about how thin the shocks look. I was not surprised by the OEM shock - it look beefy enough to me. The new KYB is even thinner. That actually does not matter one bit to the performance of this part. But all the other parts in the rear suspension did seem a little fleemsy to me. The arms are just bent tin. Same parts on Corolla are beefier. So.... I remember some people bought this car in Sport trim new for 15k-That's how you get there.

    Anyway, front shocks are coming in! Happy for now!
  • vicenacvicenac Posts: 229
    So after changing the shocks the car is a dream to drive. Time to rotate tires. Costco said there are low and high points on my rear tires.... maybe time for new tires. They said probably the shocks were bad. No kidding!
    I hope the tire wear will even out. I have these tires for 1 year and less then 10k.
    I knew about this possibility before I bought the car but I didn't think it can be this severe and with such $$$ consequences.
    If I would buy another one of these I would change the shocks right away. The expense will amortize by extending the life of the tires.
    My question: will these square tires wear my new shocks prematurely?
  • Well, a pair of Monroe front struts fixed it. It needed the alignment too. It drives really nicely now. Back to standard squeaking from the back or occasional scraping/grating noise from rear suspension (that I don't care much about anyway). Glad this was taken car of!!
  • davichodavicho Posts: 190
    Replace your rear shocks if you haven't done so already. Our MZ5s love to dine on rear shocks quicker then you think. I also started getting the rear crunch noise and I replaced my rear sway bar bushings with aftermarket urethane bushings as well as beefier aftermarket sway bar links and the noise was still there. I lastly checked my rear shocks which initially I didn't think it would be because they had been replaced about 20K miles ago...well....the noise was actually coming from there. Replaced the rear shocks and now it is silent. Unfortunately rear shock design is weak and they go out very quickly (20K- 40K miles) tops.
  • Thank you for the advice. My mechanic told me that previous owner already replaced the rear shocks, so I will just leave it as it is. Thanks again for you replies.
  • Ok, I literally just bought this car- used from a Honda dealer. It was a trade in obviously. It test drove amazing, with 77k miles on it. I bought it and immediately drove it 300 miles back to my hometown, and suddenly the suspension is squeaking/creaking and just seems a bit stressed. I also live in a very snowy/cold region. I don't mind the lousy snow performance, I can take the bus on bad weather days (Im a grad student)... However, for paying $7k I do not think the car should have any suspension problems!! I have 90 days to bring it back to the dealer under the lemon law. Should I make them fix it or should I try to switch the car out altogether? The tire situation does not look like fun either... I do not have the money to buy new tires every year!
  • kw_dakw_da Posts: 73

    This is a known problem on Mazda5s - your sway bar bushings need replacement/lube - probably both front and rear sway bar bushings, the front are a lot harder to replace. the noise is more noticeable when cold. Tire wear is also a known problem - rear inner tires tend to wear out soon - because of factory toe alignment for handling - some people have this issue, others don't. What year is the car? -

    @jpaterac said: Ok, I literally just bought this car- used from a Honda dealer. It was a trade in obviously. It test drove amazing, with 77k miles on it. I bought it and immediately drove it 300 miles back to my hometown, and suddenly the suspension is squeaking/creaking and just seems a bit stressed. I also live in a very snowy/cold region. I don't mind the lousy snow performance, I can take the bus on bad weather days (Im a grad student)... However, for paying $7k I do not think the car should have any suspension problems!! I have 90 days to bring it back to the dealer under the lemon law. Should I make them fix it or should I try to switch the car out altogether? The tire situation does not look like fun either... I do not have the money to buy new tires every year!

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