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Ford Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis Tires/Wheels

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  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,661
    My 2004 CV LX Sport came with Goodyear Eagle LS tires, rode smooth...after 47000 miles, time to replace...

    Three weeks ago, I bought 4 of the new Goodyear Comfort-Tred Kevlar or Carbon tires, supposed to be Goodyear's best...

    Did not work for me...smooth as glass 0-40 mph, from 40-65 mph the seat shook like the rear tires were out of balance, and then from 65-80 mph, steering wheel started to shake...

    Took them back, they rebalanced them (did not see if they were out of balance) and I drove away, same exact problem at the same exact speeds...

    This morning I exchanged them for Regatta tires, a proven tire that I put on my Sable 3 year ago...drivers seat continues to shake on a smooth road, and the steering wheel shakes above 60 mph...

    Even with poor tread, the Eagle LS tires ran smooth up to 85 mph, the car ran true, so I do not believe it is wheel alignment, as the car continues to run straight on the hiway...

    Before I complain to Goodyear about these tires, any thoughts on what this could be???...I hesitate to think 2 sets of defective tires would land on my car, altho I do feel that Murphy and his Law are close friends of mine...
  • harmar2harmar2 Posts: 36
    Last fall, I had to replace a Michelin (original equipment) on the front, because of a nail on the edge of the tread near a sidewall, so bought two Bridgestone Turanzas (I refuse to buy Michelin till the French act as if they like us Americans). For years, I used Turanzas on a Mazda Protege and loved them. These new Turanzas, however, had a rhythmic "flap, flap, flap" to them that made me wonder if they had not been balanced properly. Took 'em back and they rebalanced them. No better! Had them rebalanced, at my expense, by the Ford dealership that services my GM. No better! They "flap" worse when cold, and improve as they warm up, but don't completely quit "flapping." Likely a tire composition matter that no rebalancing will solve.

    At 72,000 miles, I decided to replace the other two Michelins, but with Yokohama Avids (well rated by Consumer Reports). I put the Turanzas on the rear where their "flapping" isn't as noticeable. The Avids are terrific! Quiet, tri-tread pattern for all season handling (not yet run in MI snows, though), and less costly than GoodYear or Michelin.

    Years, ago, also, we used to balance tires while the rims were mounted on the vehicle. A strobe light measured how they spun while mounted, which took into account any balance problem that resulted from the wheel/tire interaction with the suspension. They don't use that method anymore, but could there be a connection there with yours?

    Incidentally, I wanted to buy GoodYear, but don't like the looks of the tread pattern on any of their models. I realize "eyeballing" a tread isn't scientific, but since GoodYear's AquaTread, I've been skeptical of those patterns.

    Good luck solving your dilemma.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,305
    Our '94 Town Car has a set of Michelin X tires with 70k on them with a lot of tread left.

    Our '95 T Bird has a set of Michelin Symetrys with 48K on them with NOT a lot of tread left.

    Both sets of Michelins have always run smooth and quiet. :)
  • I do not own a CV or GM, but have put a set of these tires on my 98 Buick Regal. Yes, they are highly rated and rode smoothly when new. However, they are a disaster for me. I've had them rotated every 5k miles (30k on them total) and will have to get two of them replaced soon as they are vibrating me to death between 45-65. Above 70 it seems to lessen out. I have had them Hunter Road Force balanced and that has not made a difference. No rim troubles, no other suspension problems. Friend told me that some customers are finding that their experiences don't add up to those of what tirerack will tell you :(
  • Its not the tires I have a 92 Grand marq with the exact same problem. Bought the car a year ago with 92000 km and replaced the old michelins because of wear and a little shake. New tires did not solve the shake but emphasized it. I had the balancing redone and that solved nothing. I had the drive shaft and front end inspected and nothing was wrong. I realligned the car and nothing changed. I am turning my attention now to the transmission and the uni joint in the rearend in general, because the shaking starts under the seat. I was told that a very expensive Ford designed tranny fluid (maybe the synthetic mentioned in another thread) is used in a lot of the cars to solve "shudders" in the car when changing gears at slow speeds. If that doesn't work I'm at a loss. I wonder if a mod to the handling package suspension might work. :confuse:
  • bruneau1bruneau1 Posts: 468
    Your tire dealer is an idiot/
  • I bought a 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis LS Ultimate in April 2006. It has the Chrome Wheel option, and Full Size Spare Wheel option which added $695 and $80 respectively to the MSRP. Not only was it a surprise, but also, in my opinion, deceptive marketing, to not include the information that the full size spare would not be on a matching chrome wheel, but also that the spare tire would not match in name and would be a blackwall and not a matching whitewall tire. Also the fact that the factory puts the wheel balancing weights on the outboard side of the wheel instead on the inboard side, especially on a chrome wheel shows a obvious lack of judgement or outright lack of concern for customer satisfaction. One other comment on a lack of reasoning in the marketing area. On the Mercury Grand Marquis, whitewall tires come as standard equipment, but if you order the handling package, they are replaced with blackwall tires instead of the same size and if you had bought the Ford Crown Victoria which does not come with whitewall tires as standard, you would pay $80 for the whitewall tire option. Not only is the customer that wants the handling package paying $695 MSRP for it, but in reality giving back to Mercury the $80 they would charge on their cars to upgrade from blackwall to whitewall tires.
  • I bought a 1994 Crown Vic Lx new in July 1994 and in April 2006 bought new a Grand Marquis Ls. The safisfying experience with the 94 Vic, brought me back to consider and buying the 06 Grand Marquis. I kept my 94 because it still rides and looks great. My 06 Marquis, I hope will be as good a choice as the Vic has been. Wish they had kept the inside gas door release, bigger gas tank, under hood light, cassette player(not available with 6 CD in dash option) and the old instant fuel economy displays that came with electronic dash option on the Vic. I do like the passenger side air bag that auto dis ables in certain seating situations on the Marquis. I like the added option of front seat side air bags not available on the Vic in 94. I do like the laminated side glass option on the 06 that was not available on the 94, this laminated side glass is marketed as a safety feature, but an additional improvement in my opinion is the better insulating of the interior from outside noise and temperature extremes. Other than normal scheduled maintenance, oil, filters, brakes, tires, and replacing of original factory battery(that lasted 8 years, the only weak feature on the 94 has been the need to replace all four windown track assemblys,,but only one window motor, have replaced the serpentine belt at about 80,000 miles. Appearance wise, on the Marquis, I am so glad they eliminated the awful, cheap looking exterior radio antenna and have it embedded in the back glass. I still prefer the front door interior lights of the Vic over the un-lit reflectors on the Marquis.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,305
    For 80 bucks you got a much better spare than the usual donut supplied in most new cars. The real full size tire is very much worth the cost and is not chrome like the other four because it is a spare and not intended to be rotated with the other four. It is just a very good spare.

    As for mounting the wheel weights - I agree with your observation 100%. Few of us care enough about such things as the majority of drivers just don't care.
  • I too moved from a 1994 to a newer one - a 94 Grand Marquis LS for a 2002 Grand Marquis LSE. The newer one handles better, but the older one had better road isolation.

    The window regulators were a weak point on the older Grand Marquis - the only weak points on the newer ones is the cost cutting in certain areas by Ford - the bugs have been worked out for the most part, so you should get good service for years from the newer one.
  • What about installing 16" rims on a 91 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park Wagon? Factory rims are 15". I want to run a larger tire than the std. Ford spec tire.

    Standard tires for Ford Crown Vic and Mercury Colony Park Wagons are 215x75x15. Have run 225x75x15 on Crown Vic Wagon.

    Cannot buy Michelin HyroEdge tires 225x75,70,or 60 x15. If 16" rims will work I could buy Michelin HydroEdge 225x60x16".

    I installed heavy duty Moog springs and Heavy Duty Bilstein shocks on a Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park Wagon. Wagon now sits up higher and 215's look way too small.

    I think the rims will fit. Height clearance should be okay. Turning clearance?

    Anyone have any comments or suggestions?
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,305
    Considering the subject vehicle is over 15 years in age, my economic approach would be to install 225 Michelins on the factory wheels because I don't know if 16" rims are compatible with the brake system and are you considering making the adjustments in your speedometer and odometer?

    Is there a 235 75 X15 Michelin out there you could use?
  • fordenvyfordenvy Posts: 72
    I replaced them because they wouldn't hold pressure worth a darn, but I found out it improved other things to. Such as the way it handled at high speeds, steering wheel was easier to turn and no jerky freeway curves, you know those jerky corrections. Also the took bumps better and quieter. I thought michelins were good tires, and these tires weren't even wore out. With 43000 miles and 3 years old. You think it was an isolated pair of michelins that were bad or do you think it is in general. I always thought the car was that bad of quality, but these new tires turned my entire belief around. It's like 200% better in all those categories. And I also keep 32 psi in my tires, because that is what I recommend not because Ford recommends it.
  • pewepewe Posts: 1
    Can anybody please help me out on how to go about adapting 2003 wheels on my 2000 Crown Vic. Thanks
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,305
    Are they not interchangable, considering the bolt patterns?

    Remember to update the spare if you go to the larger wheels.
  • I currrently have a 1994 Mercury Grand Marquis in am wondering if 22" wheels will fit on the car without a lift kit
  • I have a grand marquis 1996 LS The Optional one with the nice rims (Grilled) screen shape.

    and I was wondering if I can get something as nice as those for winter, I don't want to rowan them in salt The tire says P225/60/16 I think.

    The bolt pattern is not common so Canadian tire dose not carry any Alloy rims for it
    Unfortunately.

    I'm going to contact the dealership for similar ones to see if they still have them.

    Any suggestions/recommendations? I don't want to spend a whole lots of money and at the same time I don't want to order/ship from outside.

    Thanks alot
    sam,
  • dj7tryppdj7trypp Posts: 3
    Best tires I have found are toyo touring 800 ultras. I'm running 225/75r15 on aftermarket saltflat wheels. They have good noise reduction and so much traction on dry pavement I can't burn the tires at all unless I'm going around a corner. If you want to go american, BFgoodrich or mickey thompson all the way. If you want your car to do CRAZY things around corners thicker stabilizer bars, Bilstein or eibach springs, kyb gas-a-just shocks, neg-roll control arms and a set of falken blades will do the trick.

    My project is a maroon '90 CV with 54x18.5in boggers and a 24in lift though. I will post pictures as I go.
  • On my '97 Grand Marquis LS, the tires that are on there now (same ones when I bought the car a little over a year and a half ago) are low on tread, but should be ok until income taxes come in..... Anyway, the current tire size on the car is a 225/70R15..... The two tires that I'm looking toward is either the Michelin Hydro Edge or the Good Year Assurance Triple Tred. Where I live, it rarely gets cold enough for ice to form on the roads, and when it does, it doesn't hang out long. It pretty much is quite a rare occasion for it to snow, whenever it does snow though, seems like everything shuts down so people down here can enjoy it, so as far as the winter hardiness of the tire goes, it's not as important as other factors. Rain, we get a bit of it from time to time, and when I nice storm comes through they are usually compared to a small hurricane.... We still have a few dirt roads down here, but when they are wet, I try to avoid them. So, any suggestions? I'm not sure what the mileage rating for the Good Year is, but the Michelin is listed to be a 90k warranty on it....
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