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Mercedes-Benz CLK (2005 and earlier)

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,994
    did you get the C7 wheels?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • Sorry, I thought I had mentioned my configuration. Here it is:

    Metallic Paint (Bordeaux)
    C4 - heated seats
    C7 - 17" wheels

    That's it. After Delivery, Title/Tags, Doc Fee, 6% NJ sales tax, and a 3.5% MSRP discount, the final drive-away price was $28.6K.

    BTW, if anyone's in NJ looking for a salesman who will sell the C230K (or other MB's) for 3.5% under MSRP, my salesman was Mr. Reid Smith at Intercar in Newton, NJ. Good, professional experience all the way around, plus I also have a good inside line that the Service Department is top notch.

    -hh
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,994
    beautiful car... congratulations! Enjoy it!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,994
    Where's Newtown? Is that central or southern Jersey?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • Where's Newtown? Is that central or southern Jersey?

    Neither. Newton (note the spelling) is in northern NJ, up in Sussex County.

    From the intersection of I-80 and I-287 (near Morristown, NJ; which is not to be confused with Moorstown in Southern Jersey), figure roughly an hour, first driving I-80W and then going North on Rt 15.

    If you're familiar with the "Mountain Creek" ski area (formerly known as Vernon Valley/Great Gorge ski area), it is nearby.

    FWIW, I believe that Mountain Creek advertises themselves as "less than 2 hours from NYC".

    -hh
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,994
    I know where Mountain Creek is. Thanks huntzinger. I juts wasn't familiar with the town. Thanks!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • tommyp13tommyp13 Posts: 146
    Good to see that you got your car, and that you're happy with it. Though it's not Orion, so it's not perfect. :-)

    The package that Bill got for me cost a little over $800 with tax, but of course, I don't think that I really had any time this past winter to actually use it. If you want the actual figure, I can post it tomorrow (receipt is in glove box, and it's too damn cold to go out and get it).

    Are you following the break-in recommendations, or blowing them off? I did the 1k break-in, but others think that it's overkill.
  • $800 is a close enough SWAG.

    I'm currently following common sense for the break-in, as I haven't yet had the time to sit down and digest the owner's manual.

    Insofar as the color/etc, the ironic thing is that as I was taking the car in through security this AM, I was greeted with a "Hey, this is Mike's car!" Turns out that one of our Security guards had also just picked up a C230K, same exact color...he's working the 12 to 12 shift, so I'll drop by for a visit later.

    -hh
  • Can someone give me the midrange acceleration spec for this C-coupe (230)? I am referring to the 80km-120km/hr specs, or 50-70mph spec (if you convert km/h or mph...). This is the number I am interested in, I don't really care about 0-60mph or 0-100km/h sec since the differences among the sports coupes are so little (6.0 vs 6.5, does it really matter? Do we try 0-60 at red light all the time?)

    THanks
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,994
    Gives the C230 great low-midrange punch for say passing or darting in and out of traffic. I don't know what the #s are, but drive it and you'll see it fits your needs just fine.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    Here's a new discussion that some of you may find intersting: Mercedes-Benz C230 vs. Saab 9-3. If you have any insights to share on this subject, please join us there. Thanks!

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  • jacktimjacktim Posts: 2
    I ordered a C-230 with leather in September of 2001 and was told I could expect a January delivery. I'm now being told maybe March because of mad cow disease in Europe. Can anyone help me here? Both the dealer and MBUSA tell me the same thing.
  • cimoca6cimoca6 Posts: 1
    Anybody used the European delivery for a new MB. My dealer Millennium in New Jersey told me I will save the delivery charges ($695). He quoted me a price 2.5 % under MSRP. Any other better dealers in NJ?
    Thnnks
  • huntzingerhuntzinger Posts: 350
    I'm really surprised that you're still waiting.

    I did a test-drive in a C230 with leather back in December, so while there have been leather shortages due to the problems with Mad Cow disease, their supply wasn't completely cut off.

    (FWIW, I also found that the seat designs are surprisingly different between leather & cloth: the center panel in the leather is sprung very soft, and the cloth is quite firm).

    Also, while I skipped leather, I didn't place the order for my C230 until earlyish January and it came in 2 weeks ago (I took delivery on Monday of last week).

    My scheduled build period was 1-10 February, which was a modification of an existing allotment - - I'm not sure, but it appears that transmission is the primary thing that "locks in" the build, as I was able to change colors and change options. My guess is that cloth/leather interior MIGHT be another "locked in" constraint. Your dealership should be able to tell you the answers here.

    Your "maybe March" sounds slightly at odds with how I was handled: I'd ask your dealer why you don't have an exact build date period like I was told (Note: I was told this at the time of sale). The only uncertainty I had in my delivery process was exactly when the car was going to get to the USA after it was built. I was told to expect it ~30 days after the end of the build window. My point here is that if we were to suppose that it was slated for delivery on March 31st, that means that its build period probably would have had to have been 20-28 February.

    Finally, it does appear to me that M-B's vehicle tracking system might not have too many checkpoints in it for the dealers to check status. I don't know if there's a "got built" checkpoint or not, but what I do know is that the main one that reportedly "pops up" for the dealership is when the car arrives in its US port. From there, its ETA should be just a few days.

    Hope this helps,

    -hh
  • huntzingerhuntzinger Posts: 350
    Anybody used the European delivery for a new MB. My dealer Millennium in New Jersey told me I will save the delivery charges ($695).

    That seems to be about it for any discount from M-B. I'm going over to Germany later this summer and in the end, decided that it wasn't worth it. IMO, BMW is the company for which ED is quite worthwhile.

    He quoted me a price 2.5 % under MSRP. Any other better dealers in NJ?

    Intercar up in Newton, NJ gave me 3.5% below MSRP. Phone# is 973-383-8300 and my salesman was Reid Smith (he was quite good).

    However, Newton is easily an hour's drive north of Millenium in Bridgewater, so might not really be worth your time for a $300 savings, but Intercar also only charges a $99 documentation fee, and some dealerships charge a lot more (M-B of Morristown: $300! Not recommended). Depending on how much Millenium wants, this might make the trip worthwhile.

    -hh
  • And it still isn't here. I also have "late March" as the next arrival date. I'm beginning to get pissed, and I am thinking about turning up my nose if it ever does get here. I'm a patient man, but a winter without a car (aside from a CR-V shared with my wife) has ticked me off a bit.

    The Acura CL-S 6-speed is looking better and better to me. :o(
  • tommyp13tommyp13 Posts: 146
    MB actually has a complex series of 2-digit codes for cars throughout the entire process, from the time that it's ordered to the time that you pick it up.
    If you haven't done it yet, first of all, I'd wait at the dealership while your salesperson gets into the production system, prints out your car's order, and gives you the current code associated with your car.
    That will serve two purposes: you'll be able to completely verify your car's options, as well as find out what the status is of your order. When you've got the code, either on this forum or the W203 db at mbworld.org will be a listing of all of the codes. If the salesperson refuses to do this, take that as a warning sign that you're not getting ths straight scoop from them, and either ask to talk to the sales manager, or kill you order and walk.
    Even with leather, most ccoupes are 2-3 months total from deposit to delivery; leather isn't the big wait that it used to be.
    I bought my ccoupe from Prestige in Paramus, and all that I got was a reduced price on the cd player, but I ordered it in July, when they weren't doing anything on price. Your 2.5% sounds reasonable.
    Also, you might want to do a blind call to Millennium's service dept., and ask about their loaner policy. Most dealers in the NE only give out loaners to people who have bought their MB's from them, so that alone might be a reason to buy from a local dealer.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,994
    Anybody read it? There's a sidebar on MB's 6 year production plan. Pertinent information for this board includes: 2003 C-Class Coupe AMG (I wonder what's going to power that thing). 2006 "All new C Class Coupe, which will be the first totally drive-by-wire Mercedes-Benz model." This car muct be impressing the big wigs so there is a bright future for it!

    BTW: I think the Supercharged 3.2L V6 from the C32 AMG would be a nice fit in the C Coupe's engine bay for that upcoming AMG model:)

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • timjacktimjack Posts: 7
    To: tommyp13 and huntzinger,

    Thanks for the information on helping me understand why this car has taken over 6 months so far. I ordered an auto. trans, C-4,C-5, in brilliant silver and after initially telling me January am now being told March. I paid $500. under MSRP so probably more than the rest of you.I also want to tell the dealer to take a hike but after reading the postings, it weems to be a pretty good car.

    Has anyone heard what changes will be made on the 2003 as I may cancel this one and wait.
  • jjpeterjjpeter Posts: 230
    Timjack, looks like some different engine modes to the C230-kompressor may be in the offering for the 03's. Link below


    http://mbspy.bacosys.be/M271.htm

  • timjacktimjack Posts: 7
    Anyone want to help me create an offering price to the dealer for the C-230 sport coupe in brilliant silver,auto,C-4,C-5 and navigation. List is $33,155 and invoice is $30881. I'm in CT and last summer everyone told me they were getting list.
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    Have you had a chance to check out Edmunds' TMV Vehicle Pricing Calculator? Also, from Edmunds' Advice section, here's an article about Edmunds' TMV and setting your target price. Others here may have more to add. Good luck. ;-)

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  • Hey you all,
    I just got my C230 kompressor a month ago. Loving it. The performance is great. I even bought a car cover for it but never used it. So I am putting it up ebay for sale. If any of you are interested, please go to ebay and look for.

    Item # 1811218783

    Bought it for $198 and will let it go cheap.

    thanks!
  • mlsphdmlsphd Posts: 26
    timjack:
    I bought a c230K from jordan at MB of Greenwich. The price was invoice +3%. To avoid any problems, I suggest:
    1. agree on a specific number for the price. You should be able to do it for 31,800.
    2. They will try to add in an amount for "document fee" of $200. Tell him you want 31,800 delivered, exclusive of tax and license. They might give you a price of 31,600 and then add back in the document fee.
    3. I did not pay any advertising fee.

    Jordan was very easy to deal with. I did the deal over the phone, gave a cc# for deposit, and he faxed the sales contract.

    I ordered end of nov and took delivery 3rd week of jan- they were able to customize an existing build slot.

    I am a pretty satisfied customer--they also threw in winter mats and sent a nice gift basket after purchase. (However-also got put on some high end mailing list, and got and incredibly plush and slick solicitation for 3000+sf trailside ski condos).

    A few days before delivery, I was able to talk them into an installed price of 725 for the cd changer.

    BTW: MB dealers in New London and West Hartford were also willing to be very competitive on price. The salesman at the Fairfield, CT dealer (where we went for a test drive) was very insulted when I asked about a discount. He called a few days later and was willing to deal, but I didn't want to play.

    Happy shopping.

    It is worth the effort and wait. And CT is a wonderful place to drive it. It is a joy on the winding 2 lane roads.
  • Location: Northern California
    timeline:

    First tested drive in October, 2001. List price only from various dealerships. NO pricebreak at all.

    Went to a few websites. Only deal I got was from Carpoint.com which hooked me up with Symthe European (San Jose). The sales person was Matthew Le. $500 off MSRP. I went back to the Walnut Creek dealership where I test drove the car originally and they would not match it. So I went back to SJ and ordered my car. Even though I told Matthew I have already test drive the car and all I wanted was to place to order, he still took time to show me the different colors, options and offered another test drive. Car arrived at the end of Dec. Some mixed up (could have been a deal killer). The car was the one I originally wanted but not the right price. I didn't want to wait anymore. Ended up with $750 off MSRP and a set of all weather floor maps (I hike, bike and run - this is important to me.)

    Car - C1, C2, silver,cloth, no CD (mistake,will probably go back and get it), extended warranty (For the listed price. I intend to keep this car, knowing how much it cost to fix anything related to MB, the 2K seems a good investment)

    Matthew was great. His assistance Inga was great too. To be fair, there were some avoidable mistakes but we are all human. Because of some other mixed up, he delivered my car to my house (3 weeks after I close the deal) which was more than 65 miles from the dealership. Nice touch. Got flowers too. Another nice touch. (guys, chicks dig that.)

    I thought I got a good rate for the car loan. Their loan manager looked at my credit history and actually gave me a better rate (1/2% less than the one I got from a credit union and without direct deposit or down) Another plus.

    I would definitely use them again.

    I have 1K miles on the car. LOVE IT. :))Handles superbly. Lots of truck space. I used it to move some furniture and it holds a lot more than I thought. One complain - the antenna is SO SO weak. Any suggestion? Do I need to upgrade to the Boise System? I don't think buying the CD would help. Also, since I intend to take my car to service by a different dealership, someone said I need to make sure a mechanic is assigned to my car. How do I do that?

    Hope that this long winded message help some future buyers out that. Help with my questions would be most welcome.
  • You got flowers, wow, that so cool -- much better than a fruit basket. I did not even get a thank you note. But I got a good deal guess it's a trade-off.

    I do get a rose when I bring my car in for service though. It's a nice touch.

    Oh, isn't it amazing how many guys still don't get that chick dig flowers?

    Enjoy your car.
  • mlsphdmlsphd Posts: 26
    A bit off topic, but since this has strayed into flowers---
    for the last 21 years, starting before we were married, my wife has been getting a single red rose delivered weekly. Best $ I ever spent. And, as you might have guessed from my earlier post, I like to get good value for my $. In addition to the goodwill every week, I get a good deal from the florist for the standing order.
  • . . . the C5 and C7 packages as well as automatic. Based on their books, the car is in the Mercedes facility in New Jersey and stated to arrive late this week or early next week to here in the Midwest.

    I felt the C5 and C7 packages were reasonable and make the car more "Mercedes-like". I could not stand the fabric interior, so the C5 gets me oyster leather. I also had to get the sunroof which C5 gets me. The C7 gets me 17 inch performance wheels and includes various measures of the "Evolution" package sold in Europe.

    List was $30,365. Invoice is allegedly $28,287 with TMV as $30,069 in Alabaster white. I haggled briefly and got $1,200 knocked off list which I thought was a good discount based on all the information I had. In the end, they asked if I was interested in trading in my current car. The offered $4,000 which was right on target with Edmunds trade in value. I accepted that. So, my take home price before taxes is around 25K.

    Overall, I am satisfied with the process up to this point. Of course, I do not have the car yet, so I cannot comment on those impression.

    I am looking forward to it and hope that it will give me a good run.

    CP
  • ciracira Posts: 32
    I ordered my 230 on 1/7 and was told by my salesman that the car was produced on 2/1 and delivered in March. After waiting through February for a delivery date, he told me last week that the car was built on 2/11 and he would find out an ETA. Today he told me that "production was completed" on 3/7 and ETA would be about a month, probably mid-April. When I asked what happened to the 2/11 build date and March delivery date he said "that 2/11 was when production began and it was completed on 3/7." This sounds like a lot of nonsense to me. That's almost 4 whole weeks to build a car! I got a really great deal on the car and I suspect they would like me to walk so they can sell the car to someone else at a better price. Anyone have any insights as to whether MB is being straightforward with me.
  • jjpeterjjpeter Posts: 230
    Cira, we ordered mid-last August, got a build date of the second week of Sept. (yeah, the week of 9-11) and from there they promised a delivery in mid-late October, about six weeks. On Thusday, 10/25 we got the call that the car was in and on Friday the 26th we picked our baby up. Have not been happier. And chowchow, we also bought from Symthe European in San Jose, CA. A very pleasant buying experience.

    From all the posts I have read here, about six weeks for delivery after you have recieved a firm build date.
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