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Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo



  • coolmazda5coolmazda5 Posts: 525
    :surprise: the number of "you/your" and "I/me" wording increases and even letter capitalization comes up in the reply, yet I'm the bizarre hostile poster ;)

    The reply is based on the general Rondo owner replies that I've seen here on this thread, nothing else. I actually believe the former Honda Odyssey ownership and comparo you provided gives a lot of credit to the response, which should be good for undecided owners-to-be I hope.

    BTW, I don't like cats, they are too sentimental
  • irismgirismg Posts: 345
    is dumb. Young, love to drive vs. old and infirm loves comfort. Driving machine vs. appliance. Women discounted and demeaned. This whole back-and-forth is dumb and unnecessary. If people would simply tell the truth and QUIT TRYING TO SELL, this and other threads just like it would be much more useful to people. But, that's only my opinion and observation.

    Let the bickering continue. :mad:
  • kasikinkasikin Posts: 14
    I agree and apologize for being a part of the bickering. The one thing the bickering does show however, is that not all people agree on which of these cars is "better" and no one can tell you which one is better for you.

    So to anyone considering these two cars, please go test drive them both. Spend as much time as you need in the cars and figure out what is important to you.

    From my personal experience, when you have children in car seats, sliding doors are a godsend. So for some of you, that would be a plus for the 5. Alternatively, if you have 3 adolescents (as I do) or for any other reason often find yourself with a car/van full of kids, the extra seat is a plus for the Rondo.

    To me, anyway, the rest of the differences are really subjective and what's a pro to one person could be a con to another. So get out there, see what's available and try them out.
  • tourist1292tourist1292 Posts: 31
    If you have one child car seat, either one is fine. The rear door on Rondo is huge and open to near 90 degree (if you have enough space). We used to have a 2dr hatch back when my daughter was born and we had to switch to a 4dr within a couple months. Rondo is much more car seat friendly than my previous 4dr sedan (higher seat, large door, more leg room). If you don't have the room to open the door widely, then Rondo shares the same problem with other 4dr sedans and the sliding door of Mazda5 is definitely a plus. If you have 2 child car seats, then you should go for the Mazda5 or you cannot access the 3rd row easily. By the time your kids graduated from car seats and becomes teenager, it is about time to get another car anyway.
  • jskayjskay Posts: 5
    Sounds more like people are sold on a slogan then a car. Gearhead sacrificed a 10 yr 100,000 mile warranty for less power and the ability to open doors in extremely tight places. I would rather buy a Rondo and park in normal situations and not worry about some [non-permissible content removed]hole hitting my car with his door.
    Congrats on paying more for ZOOM ZOOM! Good luck with your mazda's!
  • dona83dona83 Posts: 67
    The 5 and Rondo costs about the same, what are you talking about? It's good we have choice, and the Rondo seemed pretty nice but the deal breaker of the day was the lack of manual transmission on the Rondo. Whether people here get the 5 in auto or manual, it's still a fun to drive car either way that may not have a lot of power but since the 5 is good at cornering you don't have to slow down and speed up much anyway so. :P

    Warranty means nothing if it dies at 100,001 miles. I got rid of my 91 Corolla last year with 225,000 miles on it.
  • larrytbmlarrytbm Posts: 10
    I agree that Mazda has done an excellent job selling the ZOOM ZOOM slogan. But if great handling was important to me, the M5 would not be my choice, and certainly neither would the Rondo. Zipping around in just about any car just hurts mpgs so I prefer the extra power of the V6 used only when beneficial. Both cars cost about the same. For me, the M5 has just one real advantage, the sliding rear doors. The Rondo carries 7 for those rare times I need seating for 7 w/o the terrible mpg penalty of a regular minivan. The Rondo absolutely carries more cargo than the M5 which is a much more critical need of mine. Finally, the 2nd row bucket seats on the M5 was a deal breaker for my needs, a large dog just won't ride well in a small bucket seat compared to a 60/40 split bench seat.
  • The prices of the two can be very competitive depending on the options and incentives. I actually was quoted with a Mazda5 Touring and a Rondo EX within $100 difference. There is no manual transmission in Rondo, while it is available in Mazda 5 only at the entry Sport trim level which has very limited options (e.g. no moon roof, leather seat). It will be a big plus if they offer manual transmission at all trim level.
  • tsm280ztsm280z Posts: 29
    What if your car dies at 99,000 miles?
  • dona83dona83 Posts: 67
    I'll let you know. ;) I'm approaching 50,000 miles on mine.
  • dona83dona83 Posts: 67
    In Canada we can get the GT (equivalent to the US Touring model) with the optional Luxury (leather, heated seats, 6CD changer) and NAVI package with manual transmission. :) The only thing not available in Canada is the HID lights for some reason. But I decided to get an 07 GT (no leather or NAVI) 5MT instead for now, holding out for Mazda to figure out how to squeeze a 7th seat in there.

    I figure 25% of all Mazda 5s were sold with manual transmissions in Canada.
  • I think only GT trim level (not Touring) has the leather option in the US also but there is no manual transmission in the 09. Anyway, the 2007 Touring (not GT) trim in US did have manual transmission option.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    Rondo - 1,530 units (1,566 for '08)
    Mazda 5 - 1,197 units (2,072 for '08)
  • dona83dona83 Posts: 67
    Yea it's a shame. Manual is on the brink of death in the US and just barely hanging on in Canada.

  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    Rondo - 1,149 (1,001 '08); YTD: 3,939 (4,234 for '08)
    Mazda 5 - 1,030 (1,509 '08); YTD: 3,728 (6,567 for '08)
  • coolmazda5coolmazda5 Posts: 525
    The Mazda5 made the list :shades:

    Parents magazine and revealed their annual list of Best Family Cars. Having tested essentially every vehicle in the marketplace, the experts selected 15 top models — three each in the budget, crossover, minivan, sedan and SUV categories. Each car was judged on safety, performance, interior, exterior and family friendly features.

    In addition to analyzing, test-driving, and comparing specs, Parents/ took into account feedback from parents who own and drive these vehicles every day. All of the cars on the list are budget friendly — five start at under $20,000 and one checks in at under $15,000. The Best Family Cars of 2009 will appear in the June 2009 issue of Parents magazine on newsstands nationwide today.

    According to the Parents/ survey, the 15 Best Family Cars are:

    Honda Fit
    Volkswagen Rabbit

    Honda CR-V
    Toyota RAV 4
    Subaru Forester

    Toyota Sienna
    Honda Odyssey
    Hyundai Entourage

    Honda Accord
    Chevrolet Malibu

    Ford Flex
    Mazda CX-9
    Chevrolet Traverse

    When it comes to combining family friendliness with value and performance, Honda was the leader: the Fit, Accord, CR-V, and Odyssey all made the Parents/ list. Reviewers raved about these models' spaciousness and thoughtful features such as convenient cup holders and steering-wheel mounted audio controls.

    Mazda followed with three models, the Mazda5, 6 and CX-9 making the list, while Toyota and Chevrolet each had two models on the list. Nine of the 15 models are newcomers to the annually updated list.

    "With the 2009 list, Parents and made an extra effort to highlight the smartest, safest and most budget conscious cars," said Dana Points, editor-in-chief of Parents. "If your family is in the market for a new car, now is actually a good time because steep dealer discounts make this a buyer's market. This list plus our money saving car shopping tips will empower you with all the information you'll need."

    According to the Parents/ Best Family Cars research, superior handling, efficient gas mileage and easy car seat installation are all "must haves" for parent drivers. The extras that won rave reviews from parents were storage related features, including bins under seats, easy to reach compartments in the dash and cup holders in the back seats. Remote start capability and multiple electronic plugs for portable electronics also impressed the reviewers and owners of the models on the Best Family Cars list.

    "There are 340 new car models on sale this year, and busy families could undoubtedly use some help sorting through the choices to decide what is right for them," stated editor-in-chief Karl Brauer. "As a parent myself, I feel sure that just about any family can find a car on this list that will serve their purposes well."

  • larrytbmlarrytbm Posts: 10
    "According to the Parents/ survey, the 15 Best Family Cars are:

    Honda Fit
    Volkswagen Rabbit

    Honda CR-V
    Toyota RAV 4
    Subaru Forester "

    I looked at 5 of them and choose the Rondo instead because my views are different. As a satisfied owner of an '03 CRV, the new one was the standard to beat. But it was a little dissapointing, it lost some of the nice touches, a little noisey and unattractive interior (huge Titanium colored door handles don't fit the beige interior and too many different colors/textures). The Fit is even noiser with very cheap looking fabrics, especially for a Honda. The RAV4 was OK, nothing significantly good or bad, not the best interior design or engine/trans choices. The Forester was really noisey and rough riding with a very bland interior. The M5 didn't meet our specific cargo needs and the second row buckets just can't handle a 55 lb dog. Someone elses inputs are useful but never the final answer.
  • coolmazda5coolmazda5 Posts: 525
    2009 Kia Rondo LX V6. Overall Test Score: 76
    Highs: Ride, quietness, powertrain, access, versatility, controls, available third-row seat.
    Lows: Unsupportive seat, no telescoping steering wheel, suspension noise.

    2009 Mazda5 Touring 4-cyl. Overall Test Score: 86
    Highs: Agility, ride, access, visibility, seats six, controls, value.
    Lows: Reserve power, road noise, no ESC.

    Wagons and hatchbacks, highest test score: 86
    Wagons and hatchbacks, lowest test score: 49

    Sources: a&model=Rondo zda&model=Mazda5
  • leckigleckig Posts: 2
    i read both reviews on consumer reports - I dont quite understand the way these cars are rated. If you read these reviews it seems like Rondo would actually get higher score.

    I wish an explanation was given why 76vs86.
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