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2007 Toyota Camry Transmission Questions

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  • bmarkbmark Posts: 52
    Yes I have heard that the problem is still going on even in the 2008
  • I bought a 08 Camry SE with the V6 2 weeks ago. Have close to 1000 miles on it now. No problem with the 6 speed auto trans. Shifts fine. Traded in a 2004 Saab 93 and at the moment, have no regrets. Camry is very fast. Fuel consumption is approx. 25 MPG overall - still in break-in phase.
  • chuck28chuck28 Posts: 257
    Thanks for the update. Please keep in touch and let us know how it's going.
    Do you feel it is quiet on the Hwy ? I had problems with wind noise in my 07.
    Thanks for the update
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    from this topic. I came in trying to help but seems you don't want help. All I hear is moaning and complaining but doing nothing about it. The contagion theory at work. ;)
    Here, maybe this one will be better than the current one:

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  • joel16joel16 Posts: 64
    Hey mackabee, I must have missed something! Why are you leaving this forum topic? I keep checking this topic, and others on Edmunds, from time to time, and see that people are finding useful information, making good sugestions, and doing some of the things suggested on this forum, like performing the transmission TSB for the 4-cylinder. Did you kick someone's dog? Pee in someone's punch bowl?
  • teamtboteamtbo Posts: 78
    bohica223, any luck getting a TV station to do a report on the Camry transmission issues? How many service records were sent to you?

    Since I mailed you, I had a software reflash and have proof that the shift flare is still happening. Let me know if you would like these repair orders as well.
  • palpakpalpak Posts: 21
    Would you like to e-mail the Toyota North America President? a simple google search would give us his contact details.

    shigeru_hayakawa@mail.toyota.co.jp

    Though I'm not sure if this is still active.
  • joe152joe152 Posts: 2
    Joel thanks for the info. I took my Camry in and they did the update.This has fixed the problem.
    Thanks again!!!!
  • joel16joel16 Posts: 64
    Joe152, you're very welcome. If your car is running like mine, it should have virtually no hesitation, and drive like a completely different car. In fact, I am surprised at how much power the 4cyl has. I don't miss a 6 cylinder at all for 95% of driving situations. Now, if they could fix the cruise control problem, this would be a great car.
  • Joel16, I agree this would be a great car if they fixed the cruise control problem. Lost my arbitration (no surprise) as arbitrator said that cruise control/downshifting problem was not a safety issue, and did not affect the value of the car. As the hearing was held in the local dealer's Service Manager's office, and the arbitrator actually sat at the Service Manager's desk, I wonder if she really could provide an unbiased opinion. Oh well, nothing ventured--nothing gained. I guess I will just drive this 07 Camry LE 4cyl. on trips which do not involve many hills so that I won't notice this annoying downshifting until I trade it for something else. I wonder if the 08 Honda Accord is a good alternative. Anybody know?
  • joel16joel16 Posts: 64
    I was just reading Car and Driver Magazine, their review of the new Nissan Rogue (small SUV). They were talking about the CVT transmission. Here's a quote from the article "Highway cruising is where the Rogue and its transmission work best. Secure on-center steering feel, a firm but compliant ride, and quiet cabin combine to effortlessly count down highway miles. At 70mph the Rogue is turning a fuel efficient and hushed 2200rpm. Were this car equipped with a conventional automatic, such tall gearing would likely result in the annoying habit of constantly downshifting (or upshifting) between the two top gears. In the Rogue, the CVT seamlessly raises engine revs as the transmission moves imperceptibly through its ratios. Highway passing is a smooth experience." Interesting comment given the 4cyl Camry's "annoying habit".
  • Joel16----Thanks for the info. Did they ever hit the nail on the head re "annoying habit of constantly downshifting(or upshifting)". I will take a look at the Nissan Rogue as a replacement for this annoying 07 Camry.
  • joel16joel16 Posts: 64
    Actually, I am going to keep my 2007 Camry XLE for awhile. I would have traded it in by now if the TSB hadn't shown up to fix the transmission hesitation. I did test drive the 190HP Accord 4 door, and thought it had plenty of power. I am not sure I like the way it looks; nice interior, exterior seems to be a combination of quite a few cars; just looks like it's not one whole car. Maybe it will grow on me over time. If I did trade, I would go back to the drawing board and look at a small SUV, like the Honda CRV, Toyota Rav4, etc. I would also take the time to look seriously at Ford/Lincoln. They have some nice looking cars now.
  • I have a 2007 Camry le that i purchased in april of his year and are having a problems with play in the gas pedal and shifting problems. I have been to the dealership 3 times and two out of those they supposedly installed the update to the computer system that was supposed to fix the problem but didn't he third time tey told me there was nothing they could do I have since contacted the Toyota experience center which whom gave me a claim number and haven't heard from them since so i filed a claim with arbitration and still no response. No I have plans to see and attorney but the only problem is is that my vehicle is a leased vehicle and the lawyer says that he hasn't had to deal with a leased one. Can anyone out there help as to where to go from here and are they any issues being resolved with toyota?
  • teamtboteamtbo Posts: 78
    To recap, I bought a 2007 Camry XLE V6 with 300 miles on Feb. 14, 2007 as a Birthday gift for my wife (Yah, her b-day is on Valentine's Day). The transmission and torque converter were replaced on April 24th due the shift flare (TC002-07). Then, we had the ECU reflashed on September 14th (TC007-07). The shift flare still exists. I got a call from the service department today and they want to replace the transmission again. This will be attempt #3.

    The intersting thing is, the service advisor said that the replacement transmission I received in April (per TC002-07) was the same model as the original tranny (meaning there was no fix in it for the shift flare). He said the new one that will be installed tomorrow does have a fix for the shift flare....Hmm....I wonder why there isn't any new TSBs then??

    Anyway, once I know the part number of the new tranny, I will post it.

    I wonder how much time I have spent on this car with only 4500 miles on it!?!?
  • chuck28chuck28 Posts: 257
    Thanks teamtbo, Any Info and facts you can get on the new fix would be well apreciated.
    Thanks for keeping us informed.
    PS I agree whith where is the new TSB?
  • teamtboteamtbo Posts: 78
    You're welcome chuck.

    I took a look at the two TSBs and compared the transaxle assembly part numbers. The part number in TC002-07 (January 07 - Obsolete) and TC007-07 (May 07 - Active) are exactly the same: 30510-33530. So, unless there is a new TSB, it doesn't appear this transmission is revised.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    And therein lies the "RUB".

    Cars without a CVT MUST upshift/downshift quite often in order to try and match the FE of a CVT equipped vehicle.

    Annoying YES!

    But regretably for a good "cause".
  • wwest----- Since my 2003 Camry LE 4cyl/4spd automatic gets better FE (fuel efficiency) than my 2007 Camry LE 4cyl/5spd automatic, and without any annnoying upshift/downshift, I wish Toyota would have had a better design for 2007 transmission. Do you think Toyota will design a CVT to replace the "BADLY DESIGNED TRANSMISSION IN THE 2007 CAMRY"? A great PR effort on their part would be to replace these annoying transmissions in the 2007 Camry with a CVT. Do you agree?
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Yes, great, GREAT PR, but at "too" great a cost.

    But maybe 2010....??

    And while your 2003 was most likely "just" a 4 speed your 2007 is more likely a 6, or maybe even a 7 speed.

    1st/2nd/3rd/3rd+LU/4th/4th+LU/5th+LU(OD)

    LU: Torque converter lock-up clutch engaged.
  • wwest---Wish they had stayed with the 4spd automatic transmission for the 2007 Camry 4cyl like the one in my 2003 Camry 4cyl.. No FE was gained by going to the very annoying 5spd automatic transmission, at least not in my 07 Camry LE 4cyl/5spd automatic. As you say replacing these annoying transmissions is probablly too expensive, but it sure would help them in the loyal public support and advertising area. Just think how much bad publicity they are getting out of the dissappointing design of the 5spd transmission. I wonder if Toyota has thought of how much "BAD" word-of-mouth advertising has come from this BADLY DESIGNED TRANSMISSION WITHOUT CVT. According to a recent TV news announcement, Toyota sales are down some 40% this year. Could it be a coincidence?
  • stlpike07stlpike07 Posts: 218
    Do you own a vehicle with a CVT? My friend owns the new Altima with one and says he hates the transmission. He doesn't like how it "feels," or the lack of feeling I guess.

    My 2007 LE I4 Camry transmission is fine. Its not badly designed.....it just that some people are having problems. I'd like to know the actual percentage of owners with those problems...too bad there is no way to find out.
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,668
    "According to a recent TV news announcement, Toyota sales are down some 40% this year. Could it be a coincidence? "

    Completely wrong. See post 1228 in "Toyota in 2007" Forum. They are UP 3.8%.

    About the FE - hard to say whether the transmission is or is not gaining FE, because the weights of the car could be different, coefficient of drag could be different, driving conditions, etc. etc.

    Most new automatics are going to shift more (I see other car manufacturers have this complaint as well). That's one of the reasons I have manuals. Honda just came out with the brand new Accord with a regular automatic, not a CVT.

    The latest TSB seems to have resolved the hesitation issue.

    Sorry you are disappointed!
  • I wonder how much pre-market testing was done on the very annoying 5spd transmission that was put in the 07 Camry. Yes, latest TSB fixed the hesitation problem, but this problem, along with the annoying downshift/upshift (with cruise control engaged), was present when the car was manufactured. To say I am disappointed is an understatement. I am truly amazed that Toyota could manufacture and sell a car with these annoying features. I really do not care what other manufacturers did, my loyalty and trust was in Toyota who built my 1992,2000,and 2003 Camrys, which were such outstanding cars that they remain in my family to this day. Maybe by 2010 they will develop a better designed transmission to put in the Camry, or go back to the best 4spd automatic on the market.
  • stlpike07----Does your car display the very noticeable and annoying (at least to some of us with 07 Camrys) downshift/upshift when encountering any type of hill or upgrade? During my arbitration hearing, the Toyota rep stated that all 07 Camrys were designed to display this performance. Since all 07 Camrys were "designed" to perform in this manner, you can't really say that "some people are having problems". Every 07 Camry owner must have the same "problem with a badly designed" 5spd automatic transmission, ie. if this Toyota rep's statement was true. If your car does not perform as described here, you are the owner of a 07 Camry with a differently designed 5spd automatic, and I would like to know if your car was assembled in Japan or USA. (VIN starts with J for Japanese assembled models).
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    cammryowner1,

    I had the cruise control problem initially from day one with my early production LE I4, but it was resolved with the first performance TSB. Both the cruise control and hesitiation problems have been resolved completely for what seems like 9 months now, but I am scheduled Monday for oil change and installation of the updated TSB (figure I might as well have the latest software).

    The cruise control problem with my vehicle was absolutely horrible initially, so it was very evident when it was resolved with the first TSB. Why it has not resolved your cruise control issue I would have no clue, doesn't make sense to me unless it is also related to other factors or parameters (type/quality of fuel, altitude, rolling friction of tires, some other sensor, who knows......).
  • user777user777 Posts: 3,341
    right, could be revision of cruise control module, tcm, ecu, who knows?
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Both the 2007 Mazda minivan and the 2007 Chrysler Sebring that I drove on vacation in HI this year exhibited an extraordinary level of "shiftiness", not as bad in cruise control but still annoying, VERY.

    Until I realized the Sebring did the same in CC I thought maybe I had a bad case of "nervous foot".
  • djm2djm2 Posts: 705
    Hi All:
    I just took my vehicle into the dealer for its 2,500 mile interval oil and filter service. The Camry now has 17,000+ miles, and it is problem free! I drive it on a daily basis, and I do not have the "transmission issue" that is being described on these boards! The engine is very quiet, and I use 87 octane fuel. On a road trip I get 30mpg with the A/C on! I tend to get better mpg on "name brand fuel" as opposed to "off-brand fuels." Off brand fuels give me only 28mpg on the highway. Something is different in some of the fuels on the market! My servicing dealer is outstanding.
    Best regards. ----- Dwayne :shades: ;) :) :confuse:
  • chuck28chuck28 Posts: 257
    Hello Dwayne, your statements tell us that Toyota has a real problem because there are many of us including my 07 Camry v-6 that are not getting the gas mileage you are getting and we have shift flare problems. So again the question Toyota needs to answer is why are some cars having problems and some aren't?
    Hope your car continues to be problem free.
    Chuck
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