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Ford Freestar Electrical Problems

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  • I do not have a Ford Free Star anymore, However, I believe all the electrical problems are linked together, Moisture is getting into the PCM The Cars computer and is shorting out systems randomly throughout the vehicle. which in turn will cause individual components to fail. I never did this, but i saw a post that suggested taking a silicon caulk and caulk the mess out of the seams around the pcm. and may your next car purchase not be a Ford.
  • My Freedstar has been a great car up until now. After experiencing several car stalls during or after a rain I had the car towed to my local guy who found out about the PCM issues. Sure enough he pulled it out and dried it off and sealed it up with silicone. Since picking it up I had to have it towed back to him on a sunny dry day. It would crank over, start then just stall. He worked on it a week and could not find anything wrong with it other than 20 or so body codes. It runs now with no check engine light, but has no power. We are having strange issues where we can't turn off the lights and electrical items are not working. I am afraid to drive it anywhere.
  • Remove the PCM cover and let it dry for at least 3 day with a blower on it. I had the same problem and It is very difficult to dry because of the silicone on the circuit. I had to remove it 2 time to get good result. My freestar is ok since I let it dry for 3 days instead of 1 night.

    Sorry for my English, I speak French.
  • I would love to sue them, They left me with a $20,000 Judgement by the bank, on a voluntary Repo because of the dealer not being able to fix the PCM
    after 3 times I gave it to them and went and bought a Toyota while I still had credit. Ford almost cost me my maintenance business. I would like to see them Take care of the Judgement. I could not afford to pay 425.00 per month on a 3 year old freestar that kept shorting out.
  • I ended up taking it to a Ford Dealer to analyze the problem. They said there there is corrosion on the PCM connectors. I took out the PCM and the pins look clean. Is it possible that the PCM has suffered electrical damage? At times my car runs fine, but other times I can't start it or put it into gear.
  • charger61charger61 Posts: 1
    edited September 2011
    My family owns 3 freestars and have had problems with all three. Currently one of them stopped running after doing crazy electrical stuff before stopping.another has speed control,windshield wiper and window electrical issues along with the 6 cd player going crazy. If you need to I can give you all three individual id's to add to your list. Let me know. I am at paul_thomas1@yahoo.com my name is Paul Thomas

    Thanks
  • FORD FREESTAR (2004 & 2005) PCM and related issues. I too have a Ford Freestar. It is a 2005. Loved this vehicle until the TRANSMISSION FAILED (I had it replaced). Then the van l LOST ALL POWER WHILE ON A HIGHWAY DOING 65 mph.) I was smart enough to shift to neutral, restart van and lunged and lurched it off the road to safety just before a semi rammed into us from behind. I left the van in Norton, Ohio (near Akron) with a nearby garage. I was able to hustle a ride for my 3 year old daughter and myself. I picked up the van the next day after the garage replaced the fuel filter ($150.00). IT WAS NOT THE FILTER. Several weeks later I took van out to run errands. Van ran fine until it decided to NOT START. THEN IT STARTED BUT WOULD NOT ACCELERATE. I had it Towed back to the garage that installed the new transmission and they took it apart and checked it out. IT WAS NOT THE TRANSMISSION. We then towed van to Electrical repair shop. After reading these posts we replaced the PCM. Van drove fine for a few days and then IT WOULDN'T START. WHEN IT DID START IT DID NOT HAVE DRIVE OR REVERSE. RPM'S WERE GOING CRAZY EVEN THOUGH VAN WAS IN PARK. Again had van taken to transmission shop. Again he checked it out. When they disconnected the PCM the van was fine. So we towed back to electrical shop and put in another PCM. Got the van back after electrical shop owner and friend drove van for 2 weeks with no problems hoping to make sure problem was solved. I got van back on Friday, November 4. Drove fine. Drove van from Cleveland to Canton on Sat. Nov. 5. Van drove fine (2 hours round trip, plus errands). Drove van back to Canton on Sunday, Nov. 6. van ran fine all day. HOWEVER at 7 PM when I went to start it to drive one hour home to Cleveland the VAN WOULD NOT START, THEN IT WOULD START AND IDLE ROUGH. IT WOULD NOT SHIFT INTO DRIVE OR REVERSE. IT JUST REVVED. I left the van overnight. Got a ride home and drove back to Canton (1 hour away) on Monday, Nov. 7. Freestar started but WOULD NOT SHIFT INTO DRIVE OR REVERSE. I had van towed to electrical shop. THIS TIME VAN DISPLAYED THE SYMPTOMS FOR THE TECH THAT IT DID FOR ME. HE FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM!!! Water in the wire harness to and from the PCM! He drained it and dried it out and van runs PERFECT. SO HE CAULKED THE LIVING HELL OUT OF THE ENTIRE AREA WITH SILICONE. HE ALSO CAULKED THE RUBBER SEAM ON THE OUTSIDE OF VEHICLE JUST BELOW THE WIPERS. HE USED THREE TUBES OF SILICONE AND ALSO DRILLED HOLES TO ALLOW WATER TO RUN OUT AND AWAY FROM PCM. In the end it appears that water would build up and rest in the wire run. Then when I would drive at high speeds the capillary action would force the water down the line eventually shorting out and wreaking havoc with the PCM. PROBLEM APPEARS TO FINALLY BE SOLVED. WATERPROOF THE SEAL BY THE WIPERS. WATERPROOF THE COWL THAT LEADS DOWN INTO THE MOTOR. WATERPROOF THE WIRES TO AND FROM THE PCM!!!!!!!! FORD SUCKS!! THEY KNOW THIS PROBLEM EXISTS AND CHARGE CONSUMERS HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO "SEAL" THE PCM. MOST REPORT HAVING TO COME BACK SEVERAL TIMES. These problems are in addition to the transmission failures and torque converter failures that owners are experiencing!
  • I believe you have FOUND the answer for everyone with this problem. (maybe everyone could just use your mechanic) LOL! Anyways, I have read several forums and most all of them are the same thing. PCM getting water in it.
    Now the transmission issues, I believe are just for 2004-2005 Freestars, I have read that they are/or fixing to be recalled. Check online or with your Ford dealer. I found this on the FORD FORUM.com
    I have the 2007 SEL 4.2 model and have a problem with the electrical wires in the sliding door on driver side have been cut in two and i need to find a diagrahm or part name/number for this. Will post question in a different thread though.
  • I have a 2007 Freestar that has had the wires in the driver side sliding door cut and would like to know how to replace them and if there is a free wire diagrahm or a parts # that i could get. Thanks ahead of time.
  • My van is currently in the shop as we speak with PCM issues and it needs to be replaced. This is after I have had $760.00 worth of work already last week. I have already replaced a tie rod, the a/c unit and the torque converter a few years ago. I also have had issues with the driver side automatic sliding door not closing at times ( it will just pop back open ). I have also had the rear latch rust shut on me so that I could not open it. I had to take the panel from the inside off and spray WD40 or some other rust remover to get it to open again. This van was a complete design flaw and the engineer must have been on something when he/she did. Terrible, why oh why would you put the PCM under the windshield where water could possibly drain into it?? AND then have the audacity to charge me to fix a flaw in the design! We need as many people possible to file a complaint to https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/ so that this really starts to get attention. I did this a few years back when my torque converter failed and now they are issuing a recall on it. File complaints, do not let FORD win this one. The 2004 freestar was piece of crap from the start and they charged alot of people alot of money for and are still making money off of it from repairs. Go to https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/ and file!
  • I found this video and I am going to try this before I take it to Ford to do anymore work. Hope this helps some of you.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhjEVBMuxJw
  • turkfattsturkfatts Posts: 1
    edited March 2012
    My van has been at the shop 3 times since the end of January 2012. The first thing it was in for was the RPM were at 3 & would not come down. The Ford shop could not figure what was wrong & they updated the computer ($100). This only fixed the RPM problem somewhat - at least is was driveable. By mid-February my anti-theft system would not let me start my van. This was the second trip to the Ford shop. They diagnosed the problem as being the transceiver after keeping my van for a week. I picked up my van ($484) & the very next day I had the same problem - NO START. Back to the shop again & they tell me it is the PCM ($950). Today my van is done & they tell me that the PCM has been the problem all along with the RPM issues & the anti-theft. We will see how it is once I pick it up today!! I DID FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE NHTSA & WITH FORD!!!
  • Good, hopefully more people will do the same. I think most of the problems with the freestar are because of the PCM, but Ford will not admit this. I finally said the heck with it and went out and bought a Honda Odyssey last night. I do not trust the freestar and I am afraid the next family trip we go on we will be left stranded somewhere.
  • anetnutanetnut Posts: 1
    edited March 2012
    Geesh, I had a full post and now it is gone. I'll redo this tomorrow when I have time. Off to work now.
  • led39led39 Posts: 2
    Hello folks, I am hoping someone knows the answer to this or I'm letting this car go back to the Bank.
    So far I've had this deadstar to PepBoys, $ 500.00 they couldn't get it. Sent it to Ford dealership- $ 650.00 and then they want to experiment, try this and that. Test showed that it is not a gas pressure problem. they put a "breakout box" between computer and wiring harness to see what was shorting out, THEN ENGINE RUNS FINE. Ford Motor company says change out plugs and wires, and then new PC but at this point I am broke. I got car back-re-routed engine harness away from plug wires, no difference. I can not find any signs of water in the PC. I have pulled wiring harness apart- no water. Applied heat gun to harness connector- no difference. It is not the camshaft sensor. Pulled cover off PC and it is fine. Sort of at a loss now. . It is very odd that the engine runs fine when interconnected to the "breakout Box" which is just monitoring all the systems and checking for a short. I have gone over the connector and there is nothing wrong. Thank you for any help. Bob
    seashell1347@comcast.net
  • led39led39 Posts: 2
    Van is a 2006 Ford Freestar. thanks
  • kudemomkudemom Posts: 1
    Hello, I have a 2005 ford freestar. The other day my 4 yr old shut the power door with the button on the inside, at the same time I turned the van on, which then the sliding door stopped half way and would not close. It has done this in the past and I just shut it manually and everything is fine. However, this time I shut it and my 4 yr old was pushing the interior button at the same time. Now I can't open the door with any buttons or manually. It will try to open and opens maybe 1/4 of an inch. Does anyone have any ideas how I can fix this. I have tried to pry on the latches to see if I can move the latch arm but that did not work so well. Thank you soooo much!!!!
  • Yes , try this, Disconnect your battery for ten minutes. this will reset the computer in the vehicle, when you reconnect it. this works for a number of malfunctions. try it and let us know if it works.
  • rbkjrrbkjr Posts: 1
    Hey guys,

    Just joined and hope to get some advice from you all......

    Our 2004 Freestar (4.somthing) is having some issues.....

    It all started one day when wife complained A/C was not cooling well. In addition, the check engine light came on. Took it to Advance Auto to check the code and came back with two codes (one being P0031 and the other I cannot remember but they both mentioned replacement of Oxygen sensor). At this point I took it to the repair shop and here is sequence of events as I know them:

    Mechanic reports that the AC compressor is shot and that one of the Oxygen sensors is indeed bad so I say go ahead and replace.

    Mechanic updates me with news saying that they cannot get the car started (Asked me for the security code - not sure why).

    Mechanic reports that they finally got it started. Quote: "We disconnected the PCM and re-connected and it now runs - do ask me why"

    I pick it up and drive it home. Seems OK and AC works great.

    Next morning, drive kids to school and wife to work (I wanted to keep the van to drive and check out further). Drove about 15 miles total.

    Came home, washed the van and picked up youngest from school (about another 5 miles).

    Was going to drive van to pickup wife and van would not move as accelerated. Much "stuttering" when accelerating. Would not go more than 5 MPH even with bottom out of gas pedal. Check engine light and transaxle warning light on.

    Towed back to shop.

    Next day mechanic contacted me with news. PCM is shot. They found a used one ($225) and had Ford dealership "re-program" (whatever that means). They said they charged me no labor since they felt partly responsible (this statement got me to thinking...)

    Picked up the van a few days later. Seemed to run OK. Now with about 25 miles on it - same symptoms (stuttering, check engine light and transaxle light).

    Took back to the shop.

    Mechanic now reports that something is wrong with the fuse box. With van running, if you tap the fuse box, the van shuts off. He plans to show me this when I go back today.\

    Now I wonder, could they have done something to cause this chain of events? Could it be that the fuse box was the culprit all along (some sort of intermittent short)?

    sigh......I just want a good qualified and dependable mechanic.......

    Many thanks in advance for your tips/advice.....
  • Please, please go to NHTSA and file a complaint. This part is obviously defective from DAY ONE. I took to mechanic who said alternator was overcharging. He put on a new alternator--still overcharging. Said it was PCM issue removed new alternator and replaced it with the original alternator. This is the exact same issue in Oct/Nov 11 when we ultimately had dealer replace PCM to the tune of $1000plus. Took to dealer in ealry June 12, described issue, they insisted it was alternator--put on 4 different alternators over the course of the week. Every one experienced the same issue. Said Ford kept telling them to do so. Finally found a PCM on lot and replaced it in my car--IT WORKED! GUESS WHAT. PCMs are on backorder for who knows how long. Ford Corporate complaint to get rental car not authorized. So in addition to a deathtrap due to a torque convertor that parts are not in, I am in a deathtrap that the entire electrical system could shut down on a moments's notice. Dealer advises not to drive vehicle. So what am I supposed to do for transportation?? When will a PCM be available--I can't be the only one waiting on this part (maybe that should be an indicator that this is a recall issue!) Please visit NHTSA and file a complaint since not enough people have done so. This is an obvious safety issue and this car was obviously sold with PCM issues. Just check the numerous technical service bulletins.
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