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Toyota Land Cruiser

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  • I share an opinion with many others who have worked for Toyota for a while. Toyota will always have some version of the Landcruiser available in the US market under the name "Landcruiser". The reason I say this is that the Landcruiser was the first vehicle ever shipped to the US by Toyota and is part of their heritage in this country. If for only that reason, Toyota will probably have a version of the Landcruiser in the US market as long as they sell vehicles here. (which doesn't look like it is going to change anytime soon)

    Ken
  • As Toyotaken points out, from the standpoint of tradition, it seems that Toyota will always have an LC here. Also, LCs are produced for many other countries, so having a fully optioned US version probably isn't too hard to accomplish. It's not like they would have to just build a few for the US.
  • The LX450 engine leaks are likely nothing more than normal oil change crud. The filter is on the side of the block and inevitably dumps down to the ledge where the pan gasket is. All of them I've owned got this way despite my penchant for changing my own oil meticulously. Real leaks from this engine are rare. This "feature" often gets mistaken for a rear main seal as well.

    80 vs 100 offroad is an interesting topic, but I'd give it to the 80 due to solid front axle and factory lockers F/R. No contest, really. Would really like the 100's V8, however. Hmmmmmm........

    As for the LC being the first Toyota shipped here. Incorrect. It was a small sedan of some sort - Toyopet I think they called it?

    As for the LC being shipped here with a "Chevy" engine. Incorrect. It was a Toyota engine that many felt was too close to the Chevy straight 6 and started an urban legend. That sturdy chunk of steel was a lot of things, but it was all Toyota.

    Finally, as for the "model" being tall - that is Jim Press, President of Toyota USA and he's about 6'1"

    Idaho Doug
  • fj100fj100 Posts: 97
    Here are some pics of my 100 series. They are pretty tame, I was just checking out the articulation with the new suspension. Also, I am not from Alaska, I just purchased a plate at a flea market when I was up there two years ago. I would however like to drive from Raleigh, NC all the way to Alaska one day, of course in the LC. The vehicle is fitted with an ARB Winch bar (no winch), PIAA lights, OME Lift kit, Sway Away front torsion bars, 285/76 R 16 BFG AT KO's, canvas SOR seat covers for the dog, husky liners throughout and a baby seat. The vehicle has 66k miles and the only problem to report was the throttle position sensor and it was replaced.

    http://www.pbase.com/roane10/inbox

    Later,

    fj100
  • idahodoug,

    Thanks for the info. I have an appointment at the local Toyota dealer to change two seals(approx.$600). I just got off the phone questioning them and relating your post to them.
    They said that they would double check before installing the new seals. I am going to take the vehicle to the dealership and talk with the service technician. Any suggestions as to what I should look for or question further?
    By the way, the oil has been changed recently.

    THANKS,
    Gene
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,041
    I've got a few of those plates around my house too :-). Go for it - I've done the highway 6 or 8 times and am trying to get on it again in a month or so. It's a great trip.

    Steve, Host
  • lpc68lpc68 Posts: 45
    which 2 seals were quoted for 600$?

    i think i have an oil leak in the rear seal as well and my quotes were for much more just to replace the rear main engine seal.

    i've already replaced the valve cover seal (was definitely leaking from the back) and am going to replace the oil pan gasket next to see if that is the problem.

    i'm in the los angeles area.
  • lps,

    The crankcase and oil pump seals are to be replaced. How many miles on your LC?
    I phoned a Lexus dealer($1500 estimate) and a different Toyota dealer($750 estimate) for quotes.
    I wonder what is going on?
    The range of the quotes for the same service is unbelievable.
  • 9411794117 Posts: 39
    How much damage would expect a 100 series to get going over the Alaska highway a couple times? Would you get windshield cracks and dented fenders from the gravel? Would you tape up the headlights? Or apply a heavy coat of wax? Or maybe I'm worrying too much?
  • Idaho Doug: I'll defer to you on this, but I'm fairly certain that Toyota "bought" the design, if not an actual engine from Chevy for the LC. A 235 Blue Flame. Had forgotten about the Toyopet. That would make a good trivia question.

    As to 100 v 80 off road. Don't forget there is a solid axle 105 series available--just not here. But for my needs, I consider both more than capable. Agree that articulation in the 100 is not the equal of the 80, but I'm not doing any rock crawling in either of them. Would be interesting to see a 100 in that situation.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,041
    Risk of damage? Little or none.

    Windshield dings are a possibility - more so in the construction zones, since most of it is paved these days. Ditto the headlights, but covers are easily available at Dawson Creek or you can try some of that 3M or Stoneguard stuff.

    My last few trips I didn't bother with doing anything special - just watch the "bump" signs 'cause they mean it. And grab a Milepost.

    Steve, Host
  • The first Toyota sold in America was in 1957. That was their first forray into the US market. The first vehicle unloaded here was a landcruiser. You can check out the Toyota website to confirm.

    Ken
  • What were the symptoms of your bad throttle position failure?

    Scott
    San Diego
    scott@mobi-arc.com
  • The Toyota USA website has some problems with its history at times. Anyway, the Crown was the first vehicle sold by Toyota in the USA. Crown is a recurring name in Toyota vehicles. It was a disaster, but the TLC did OK.

    The 105 is not V8 powered, so you may as well keep your 80 series if you want a live axle. I doubt Oz will see live axle TLCs for very long other than the 7x series.
  • fj100fj100 Posts: 97
    The vehicle would not respond to throttle (accelerator pedal) input. It would just idle and the check engine light would come. Turn the vehicle off and it would be fine.

    $266 to fix, parts and labor. OBD picked it up immediately.

    fj100
  • lpc68lpc68 Posts: 45
    i've got a 91 LC with 150K. the previous owner lived on the beach and drove it to Utah alot.

    i got it for a good price and realized i would have to fix several things. nothing unexpected actually.

    am very happy with it.
  • #2444. Yeah, the 105 has the 4.5L six. I'm not that fanatical about live axle v IFS/solid rear combo. I've been told, maybe you have too, that Toyota was considering dropping the live axle in the LC, but lots of Oz mining companies etc said they'd switch to Nissan's or something if they did. I think the Patrol is live axle F&R.
  • Does anyone know the HP and torque specs for the new 5.5 V8. I hope Toyota doesn't wimp out and give it less than 300HP.
  • idahodougidahodoug Posts: 537
    Gene - As for taking it to the dealer and having them decide if it's a leak or not now that you discussed it with them - I think you're being awfully kind. They've put time into an inspection and estimate and when they get it into their shop, they're going to put a new seal in it and get their money from you. And they'll assure you it was leaking.

    Personally, I'd do what I did. Get a can of foaming engine cleaner, slide under and spray the sides of the block and the areas with oil, then hose it off. Several months later, I slid under to change the oil and the entire block was still bare dry metal. A month after I changed the oil, the block had telltale traces of oil here and there, and a line around the pan seam from the oil change splatter. My brother owns 2 and he reported the exact same thing. It ends up around the rear main area due to air flow from the fan and vehicle movement. The leak diagnosis is an honest and frequent mistake by dealers, but a misdiagnosis in all likelihood. Toyota does not use a gasket on this engine's pan - it's called FIPG and is basically a wet gasket that cures into a flexible rubber glue - tough stuff. Drop $9 on a couple engine foaming cleaner cans and a half hour of your time. You'll see. Then spend the money you did not waste on a nice weekend with your wife - much higher return on investment.

    94117 - As for headlight and fender protection, you should stop here in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho on your way to Alaska. One of the businesses I own is a company that provides paint and light protection to the area dealers and will have your Cruiser done at wholesale. We use 3M's latest paint protection to create an "invisible bra" that stops rock chips, and 3M's new headlight film to protect headlamps. Great stuff and you never have to worry again. We have bad rock chipping here, too. I demonstrate it with a shotgun on painted metal plates.

    SteelCruiser - The urban legend that Toyota "stole" the design of the Chevy six has been around awhile, but it's not true. How do I know? I used to work for Toyota's US headquarters. Also, the 4.0L straight six LandCruiser engine that is the subject of this legend was a low RPM truck block that weighs almost as much as a Chevrolet big block V8. It is absolutely huge and would not even fit under the hood of the Chevy II that was powered by the Chevy "blue flame" six. There were a few similarities, however - thus the legend.

    IdahoDoug
  • What would happen to the fuel economy if one added a Supercharger to the LC? Most of the TRD Superchargers I've seen advertised were upto the '02 model year..Mine is '03.. Anyone with any pro/con arguments for the Supercharger? I'm not presently in the market to add this but may do it down the road..
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