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Toyota Land Cruiser



  • bcb1bcb1 Posts: 149
    Geesh, you're right. The new one looks nothing like the super-plush current TLC. It reminds you of the old 60's and 70's body styles.


    On a positive note; I didn't realize that a lot of banks can't or don't lend money on vehicles that are 5+ years old or have a certain # of miles on them. I am saving up and planning on paying cash for a used one - so knowing that bit of advice helps me out in the bargaining department quite a bit!
  • I know some are saying the FJ cruiser will complement or add to the current Toyota SUV line-up, but my goodness, 9 SUVs? Do you guys think it really makes sense for Toyota to continue to produce 3 full size SUVs (LX/LC/SQ) in the US. Just don't see much differentiation between the three especially if the next platform is going to be based on a (purported) shared F-Concept frame. My gut (not hope) is the LX and SQ will continue and the LC luxury version will only continue overseas. Will be interesting to see Toyota's comments on the FJ at the auto show next month and whether they mention future plans/impact on the current LC (probably wishful thinking).
  • SQ is US only and based on the Tundra frame. LC/LX is made in Japan on its own platform. This is Toy's luxury SUV, at least here, and is available in several different versions elsewhere in the world. The # of LXs/LCs being brought in to the US has gone down due to the SQ's introduction I'm sure. And the LX/LC is probably considered mid-size. The # of Toy SUV offered around the world is more than 9 when you consider the various trim and engine options and the 70 series that isn't offered here.


    The FJ is, IMHO, designed for another niche ala the Scions etc. The Highlander seems to me to be a compliment or mabye competition for the Sienna?


    LX only version of the LC has been rumored for a long time. People thought this was going to happen when the 100 series was introduced
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,985
    There's a new discussion that just started up:


    2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser 4X4


    Check it out.


    Steve, Host
  • Steel - I am aware of the current differences b/w the SQ/LC/LX and realize there are many different LCs across the world (70, 90, 120 series). Just has been rumored by various sources that the new US platform for the LX/SQ (and possibly the new LC 130 series) will be based on the F-concept platform introduced in Detroit last January. I sure hope the LC does not go to a shared frame, although I can easily see Toyota going that direction for obvious reasons. If that is the case, there will no longer be any material differentiation b/w the models other than cosmetics and minor tweaks, IMO and a sad day for LC enthusiasts.
  • FF4Life- hadn't heard about the F concept platform being shared and that being the basis for the LC. I thought that concept was on a Tacoma frame?


    You're right--if that happens..............well, I don't want to think about it =(


    My gut feeling is that it's not going to hapen, but what the heck do I know!
  • Here's a link - supposedly what the next Tundra/SQ/LX will be based on. This is just something I read on Probably just speculation.

  • FF4L: I saw that at the LA auto show 2 weeks ago. It is big. There have been so many rumors floating around about the LC since the introduction of the 100 series which was "supposed" to be taken over by Lexus.


    It might make sense to have the two versions (LX and LC) sold by one "brand". It might simply be called Landcruiser and Landcruiser LX? And let Toy continue with the SQ? The LC/LX platform has obviously become the luxury sport ute for Toy as it's gone from FJ to wagon to luxury SUV over the years.


    I'm far too guilty of "forcing" my own preferences into my speculation! But I just find it hard to believe that Toy will reduce the luxury content of the LC/LX. Just have a feeling they're going to wow us all with the new one--whenever it comes out.
  • That's entirely possible. Matter of fact, my dealer told me last year that he had heard a rumor of separate dealerships (kind of like Land Rover) dedicated to Land Cruisers with various models and trim options. That would be ok by me, but not sure demand is there, but who knows if pricing is right. Just wish they would give us a hint at the FJ debut - again probably wishful thinking.
  • I have had an Fj80 for many years but have never had the problem I am having now in the middle of the Blizzard of 2005.

    Here in Connecticut its so cold that the middle seats will not stay down - I am guessing that the metal bars in the floor and on the clamp mechanism at the base of the seats that usually grip around that bar have shrunk below the minimum and cant grip anymore (I am sure that explanation is as clear as mud!). So the middle seat passengers pitch forward when the car stops... I dont have my third row in right now but this might happen back there as well if installed.


    Also, anyone ever use a block heater - I seem to recall that some LCs were made with a block heater capability.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,985
    I used block heaters when I lived up north it were ~10°F or so. Anchorage has been giving block heaters away every fall for a few years to help meet EPA emissions. Now my cars are garaged in Boise and I haven't plugged them in for years.


    Any engine with freeze plugs should accept a block heater. Some people use a battery blanket to help the car start too.


    Steve, Host
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,491
    Got some new tires for my 1996 Toyota Landcruiser. Bridgestone Dueler AT REVO in the stock size, 275-70-16. They replaced the oem tires Michelin LTX's with 60.5k and app 3/32 left on the treads. While the LTX's are very well rated, the REVO's seem to take almost every category up a notch. This 1996 is driven by 4 different drivers,with another 15.5 year old learning and getting her license on, so I am not too surprized it gave up the ghost at app 60.5k. On a 1994 I got closer to 75,000 with a 15.5 year old learning to drive on this set of tires. While I only have 150 miles during break in I am excited about this new set and can let folks know how they are in the longer term if interested.
  • Boggles my mind you got that kind of mileage from the LTXs. I got 25K out of my first set on my 80 series, put some Duelers on and only got a bit over 20K. I've been a fan of BFG ATs ever since. Get 60K with no problem from them.
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,491
    Yeah, I was impressed with the BFG AT's also!


    I was at first hesitant about getting "duelers" again. I had two sets before (on other Landcruisers) and was not impressed by the first set, nor impressed by the second set, even though my tire vendor said there was a significant improvement.
  • I hope Bstones work well for you.
  • I have Duelers on mine.....they seem great.....
  • I bought a new Cruiser in 2002 and started to get an annoying rattle at 45,000 miles. Sounds as though it is coming from the center of the dash near the windshield. Only hear it when I go over bumpy roads. On smooth roads it cannot be heard. The dealer said it was a loose front passenger air vent and replaced it but the sound still persists. The mechanic told me the Tundras had the same problem and the dash had to be removed and foam adhesive added to the underside of the dash. Of course when I brought it back to demo the noise, I couldn't reproduce it because there were no bumpy roads near the dealer. Dealer willing to work with me on this but it is a major inconvenience. They could go ahead and remove the dash but I am worried that the whole assembly may not be put back together like at the factory and I may get worse rattles, etc. Any advice would be appreciated. After spending 58K on a truck, shouldn't have to deal with this! Thanks!
  • teddy2teddy2 Posts: 2
    Can anyone in the know tell us when the LC 120 will come out? I am presently considering buying the LC 100 however come to think of it the body has been in the market since 97.


    thanks for sharing.
  • You mean that body style has been in the market since 1991.....
  • The "Landcruiser 120" you refer appears to be the same as the RX300 in the UK.
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