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2008 Acura TL



  • hausshauss Posts: 169
    gg, what's MMC? Also, and this may not apply here but while I'm asking, I see WOT a lot on here. What does that mean too?
  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701

    MMC means "mid model change." WOT means "wide open throttle."

  • hausshauss Posts: 169
  • ushy66ushy66 Posts: 128
    Any idea when Acura will bring the TL out in AWD like the RL or the Infinity G35? Thanks
  • billyperks1billyperks1 Posts: 151
    Here is the sequence of event for the 2009 TL
    1) Rumors starts to spread in the fall of 07
    2)Acura debuts the car at the NY AUTO show in the Sprig of 2008
    3).The car goes on sale in the fall of 08 as a 2009 model.

    If you followed Acura trend this has always been the case.
  • eg424eg424 Posts: 24
    Don't know if anyone has noticed, but the Acura website has now renamed the TL section as the 2008 TL. As far as I can see, there is no difference from when the model was called the 2007 TL.

    For 2009 it would be good if there were more positions for the passenger seat, extensions for the sunvisors, compass in the rearview mirror (even on navigation models) and options for a rear window sunshade, folding rear seat and SH-AWD.

    Also, on none "S" models, some chrome trim around the windows would help brighten the car. Just my opinion. Oviously, one could wish for more but then the car just becomes another RL.
  • harryh3harryh3 Posts: 3
    At my Acura dealer today. 2008 in stock, 2009 a mid year 2008 intro.
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    I like GM's and toyota's versions of the rear view camera. GM is going to start mounting them as an extension of the Review mirror, and Toyota is offering a separate screen for it even on non Nav models. I think its a standard feature on all but the base models.

    Acura can make something along this lines but I'd rather keep the current TL's rearview monitor and add other luxury features like Push Button Start/keyless go(come on, its on the 14k versa.... Borrow it from the S2k!), cooled seats/glovebox/armrest, and sunshades.

    I think the passat is a competitor to the TL now because it offers strong performance(280hp), equal or more features, similar space, and similar MPG.

  • benjb53benjb53 Posts: 14
    I just purchased my 2007 Acura Tl/ Navi. in December is it that seven months later my car is being outdated??????? I have to start leasing!!!
    And now they make White/Navi with Parchment interior...I am pissed!!!

  • eg424eg424 Posts: 24
    I don't think you have to worry about your car being outdated. From what I can tell, there are only minor, minor changes for the 2008. They all seem to do with color...inside and out.

    I do believe they renamed carbon grey pearl to polished metal metallic. Looks the same to me. You know what they say, a rose by any other name.....
  • benjb53benjb53 Posts: 14
    What are the changes besides color? Anybody know yet? I am debating on trading my 2007 in for a new 2009 if its that much better!!! :confuse:
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    I fear for how the next TL will look. The current car has the perfect image IMO. Its so appealing to the eye. So emotional... Acura hit that perfect line between the sport and luxury better than BMW(sport) or mercedes(luxury).

    Still haven't come close to the answer of my TL vs TSX thing. IMO the TL's stats are so similar to my current car its scary.

    Accord v6 vs TSX vS TL
    170hp vs 205hp vs 258hp
    164lb ft vs 165lb ft vs 233lb ft
    13cuft in all (< with navi)
    19/25 vs 21/32 vs 21/29 all AT

    My biggest gripe on the TSX is gearing and overall space and the TL is the non-folding rear seat and mpg (offered on tsx and accord)

    It really is hard to choose between 3cars from the same overall company. All the specs are so similar...

    -Cj :cry:
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    All the specs are so similar...

    Are you drunk? What, pray tell, is so similar about the specs you are quoting? Assuming they are correct, the TL has 50% more horsepower than the Accord, 25% more than the TSX and 45% more torque than either.

    And, once again, find yourself a beater car with a manual transmission (or better yet a friend with one you can borrow), and LEARN HOW TO DRIVE A STICK. It's an embarassment that someone your age, obviously interested in cars, is looking only at slushboxes. My 9 year old daughter knows better.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    My ;) is missing from the last post. Don't take the "are you drunk?" question seriously. But please do give consideration to learning to drive a stick. The difference between the TL 6-speed and automatic is well worth it. ;)
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    Sorry typo!! :blush: The TSX's stats are tooo similar to my current 95 accord. Thats the pro and the con.

    I wont have to make big adjustments

    Everything else is the same.

    I threw the TL in because I love the way it looks in the deep green pearl! But with driving vehicles topping 170hp. I dislike the TLs step down in MPG but thats till a step up from my accord(cant tell you the average since the odometer retired from duty) Can you tell me about the TL because these reviews online dont help much. They all seem to say the same things. I want to hear about the TL and TSX and how they are everyday.

    Mainly I want an auto because I live in miami and it is congested about 60% of the time and it lots of red lights on all the alternate routes.

    HEY BUB! I CAN DRIVE A STICK A BIT!! I just need more practice. Can I practice with your 6MT? ;) MT cars are hard to come by in miami. I'm thinking about getting an old tercel or corolla and giving it to my dad for MPG in the future.

    My entire household has a 4AT: My accord, sis's millenia, moms miata, bros corolla, dads expy's. Moms old sportage was a MT and thats how i was learning. I moved it into the gate and around a parking lot and it only cut off twice but that twice to many as I see it.

  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    "Can you tell me about the TL because these reviews online dont help much."

    No matter whose reviews you read, there is nothing like getting your butt in the seat(s) of all of the cars you are considering and taking lenghty test drives of each.

    FWIW, the TL 6-speed was my choice in 2004 because it offered the best balance of attributes - lots of amenities, high quality fit and finish, ability to carry my family of 4 comfortably and, with the 6-speed (including Brembo brakes & stiffer suspension), a sporty drive. Now for 2007/8 you need to go up to the TL-S to get a 6-speed. I would not be a TL (TL-S) buyer today. The extra $ to get the TL-S is not as good of a value, IMO. And I'm simply not a fan of automatic transmissions period, but especially Acura automatic transmissions.

    As far as learning to drive a stick and using "congestion" as an excuse for an automatic - do what's right for you. But the DC area traffic is worse than Miami's and neither my wife nor I would own an automatic, given the choice of a manual (no choice in our MDX). Again, the 6-speed gearbox in my TL is one of its best features. I have never sat in even the worst of traffic wishing I had gotten a slushbox.

    I can't really comment on the TSX, as I've only ever driven one briefly as a loaner and it was - you guessed it - a slushbox. Honda engines scream (literally and figuratively) for a manual transmission. One thing I would mention is that, back in 1994, on a tight budget, I debated between a Nissan Maxima SE w/ almost no options and a $3k less Altima GXE with more goodies. I went for the 6-cylinder Japan-built Maxima and it was one of the best car decisions I ever made. Still have it with 155k miles and it runs like new. I seriously doubt the US-built 4-cylinder Altima would have fared as well. My lesson from that experience is, buy the better car first and worry about options or amenities second.
  • eg424eg424 Posts: 24
    I find it amusing and a little sad that you would belittle someone because they don't know how to drive a stick. One can live a very satifying life without having that ability.

    Some of us, who are older, have that ability because, in our day, there were more sticks around to learn on. I am sure that is still the case in more rural areas.

    I grew up in New York City then San Francisco and now in southern california. Believe me, driving a stick in those areas is no joy. :(

    Like almost everything in life, the more abilities you have the easier life will be. But let's give autoboy a break.

    Now, I'll admit,if autoboy planned to do any driving in Europe, he'd be in trouble.
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    The TL and TSX I was comparing were both black with nav. Both have great engines and both are great value for the money. I may get the TL, I may get the TSX, who knows. It'll be at least until 2009 before i make the jump.

    Actually, That 280hp Passat Sport has my eye too.... And the Jetta TDI... Once, the tC, s40, and MDX did too but I moved on. To to cheap(materials not features), to dull(come on, 205hp Turbo I5), and to big respectively. I'm in no rush.

    Who knows, I may keep my car longer and get a TL ot TSX when they get diesel engines. 52IMP mpg sounds good to me. But at 6'1, the idea of the MDX's space is entertaining.

    I've sat in all the cars I mentioned and all were great. Only drove the tC. Regardless of what I choose, It'll be a step up from my accord. AND NO BASE FEATURELESS MODELS FOR ME!!

    -Cj :)
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I find it amusing and a little sad that you would belittle someone because they don't know how to drive a stick. One can live a very satifying life without having that ability.... but let's give autoboy a break.

    One can live a very satisfying life driving a Prius hybrid and never even thinking about a sports car, sports sedan or sporty coupe. And good for them and the environment. But I still find it "amusing and a little sad" that anyone looking for a little more vigor in their driving experience would NOT learn how to drive a stick.

    As for giving autoboy a break, I hope he knows that I'm just egging him on to do something he might actually thank me for, before he buys that new car in 2009. If he was an "older" person like you or me, I'd have laid off a few posts ago, figuring it was a lost cause. ;)

    I grew up in New York City then San Francisco and now in southern california. Believe me, driving a stick in those areas is no joy.

    I can "believe" that driving in extremely congested areas isn't a joy, period. But I personally don't find the difference between a manual or automatic transmssion to make such conditions any more or less frustrating. However, given the opportunity to go on a weekend getaway to Napa or Carmel, I'll take a 6-speed stick for the drive, thank you very much. I guess we are both lost causes. Or too old to change. ;)
  • taxesquiretaxesquire Posts: 681
    I just want to chime in that I also don't notice a big diff between the AT and MT in traffic conditions. To be specific, if traffic is going between 0 and 30 with quick stops, then the MT is a pain, but most of the time, the diff btn keeping my left foot on the clutch or my right on the brake is no big deal.

    In fact, as long as we're moving - say bouncing between 3 mph & 15, I prefer the stick b/c you can control how quickly you "coast" by keeping the car in 1st or 2nd, but in an AT, you'd have to ride the brake.

    It is true I have not experienced the "mean streets" of NYC, but I've driven in Central Jersey, that has heavy traffic, Miami, that has heavy traffic, and Boca Raton - and believe me, nothing's worse than a road loaded with drivers who are too old to be driving or on vacation and don't know where they're going!!!! Traffic gets real heavy there in the winter months. My current location - Tampa, FL, isn't so bad traffic-wise, but it has its moments.

    My dad was a sport car nut - always had a Porsche or a vette or a ferrarri in the garage, but who wants to teach their son to drive stick on their brand new Porsche?!? Thank goodness my wife's parents believed in MTs, so she could teach me on her early '90s Mazda MX6 while we were dating. Changed my life (for the better)!!!
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