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What is this thing worth?

ok two months ago i got ahold of a 1959 t-bird but its got a really rare option that ford added called a parade car which means it has a snap on leather top and behind the rear seats and before the trunk is made of fiberglass so you could sit on it during parades and not dent the metal. it only has 67000 miles and i am almost done restoring the engine but everything on the car is original matching numbers and its in great shape. i just cant find one for sale anywhere and ford wont get back up with me to tell me how few they made somebody please help me out on the price or if youre interested thanks.
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  • Well you can't put a price on something that might not be real. So you'd have to document that this isn't just some person's customization. These kits were designed by Bud Kaufman in 1962 so unless you can access family records or in some way prove that this was a genuine Ford option, then the "value" would be a small add-on as a customization feature to the normal price of the car.

    If it were a provable documented prototype and had some presentation or show history, that could be very interesting and worth extra $$$.

    But without any hard evidence (photos, testimonials from the creators) etc., all you have is a customized car---so it might even be worth less than a normal '59 Bird.

    Basically you'd have to prove that it was some kind of show car used by Ford, and you'd have to have pix of the car doing that.
  • yeah i know what youre talking about youre getting mine confused with the landua package that bud made in 62 where a piece of fiberglass actually covered the rear seats mine goes from behind the rear seats to the trunk plus mine has stamping from ford on the underside of the sheet of fiberglass behind the carpet in the trunk but still the landua cover was quite rare since it made up i believe only 7 percent of the sales that year but thanks for trying you know more than most ever will
  • Well maybe it was some kind of show car, that's possible.

    I can't address authenticity because I don't know--that's where you, the detective, comes in, but I can only tell you that without documents and photos you don't have anything to base value upon. Speculation and conjecture will not translate into value.

    Why don't you post a photo? You can link to your own photo site if you have one or you can upload photos to your own www.carspace.com page (which you create by joining Carspace.com) and then link your personal Carspace page to this forum.
  • yeah go to myspace if you want i have a few pic up my user name is rhodes.eric
  • can anyone tell hjow many 1971 cutlass s wrer built with facoery 4 spd?
    what's it worth?
    olds_MAN69
  • Is it just an S or is it a 442?

    Is is a coupe or convertible?

    If a 442 does it have the W30 option?

    If just a Cutlass S, what condition is it in, from #4 (runs but kinda shabby) to #3 really clean driver to #2 local show car quality to #1 show car.
  • texasestexases Posts: 5,424
    Recent article talks about how prices look to be dropping for all but the top-level classics: Auction Downturn
  • Lots of cars going to Europe right now.....LOTS.....
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,914
    I just got a copy of the British mag 'Classic & Sportscar' (for a fintail article and the free calendar), and there are tons of American ads in it, one from a dealer right in my backyard even.
  • texasestexases Posts: 5,424
    What is it, about $1,000 to ship port to port? Not much when high$$ cars are concerned, weak $$ and all.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,914
    I think it might be a couple grand from west coast to UK, but that's not much with the pound being worth $2 and I am sure there is some kind of volume discount too.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,590
    I wonder if that means the bottom is going to fall out of those gas guzzling 70's behemoths that I love so much? I wonder if there will finally be some good deals at Carlisle this year?
  • I can already see the bottom end of the market falling apart---the under 20K market, especially rods, project cars, old 4 doors from the 50s. LOTS of people are bailing out of their cars if they have "one too many". Prices are definitely dropping, but NOT on the high end stuff or the really nice restorations of interesting cars.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,914
    D'oh...looks like plans to find a nice prewar open MB or a Simplex to take on the Brighton run for 5K are never going to come true :P
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,119
    Has the law of supply and demand been repealed? I must be missing something, but if lots of old cars are being shipped to Europe, the supply of cars in the U.S. is declining. Assuming demand remains constant, reduced supply would normally put upward pressure on prices. If prices are declining it means that the demand is not constant, but, rather, that it's decreasing faster than the reduction in supply. As the adage says, one must never assume.

    With gasoline costing $6-$8 per gallon in Europe, who can afford to drive old Detroit iron? It would cost a couple of dollars just to back one of those carburated beasts down the driveway, with a cold engine and the choke wide open. On the other hand, if you only drive to a car show once or twice a year it wouldn't be a big deal.
  • texasestexases Posts: 5,424
    Assuming demand remains constant

    That's what's changed - it sounds like the demand for second/third tier cars is dropping. Lots of hobby cars out there, ready to come on the market, but lots of the hobby money has evaporated.
  • The Euros are not buying the low priced stuff---they are cherry-picking the nicer muscle cars or exotic European stuff we stole from them back when.

    So supply and demand is working as usual on the nicer items, but demand is slipping on lower end cars, projects, home-built rods, plain-jane cars, etc.

    I saw a really REALLY nice 4-door Chrysler go begging at $3,500. Nobody wants this stuff anymore it seems.

    People are unloading no doubt about it--but the Europeans can't take it all, and don't want it all, so prices will drop accordingly.

    As for the Europeans affording to drive these cars, they aren't being bought by guys hanging out in Munich beer halls. These buyers are affluent. The EU is going gangbusters right now. They own a larger percentage of the global marketplace than we do at the moment. A weak dollar has a lot of negative effects for us at home, but apparently good effects for classic car dealers shipping overseas (or anyone selling overseas actually).

    You have to think of the Euros shopping here and everything being sold at 25% off retail (for them). It's bargain day in the USA! :cry:
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,119
    I'll bet one thing few European and Asian buyers of old American cars think about is the salt exposure as the cars cross the pond. The resulting rust won't be evident right away, but the oxidation process begins - or rather, accelerates for those cars that are already corroded - the moment those cars are loaded on the ships.
  • That is quite true, but you know, the Europeans are far more used to rust and much more skilled in dealing with it. They think nothing of cutting out rockers and replacing them almost as a maintenance item. And they have lots of skilled cheap labor from eastern Europe to fix these babies. They also don't over-restore cars like we do.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,590
    I saw a really REALLY nice 4-door Chrysler go begging at $3,500. Nobody wants this stuff anymore it seems.

    Ooh, that made my ears perk up. Andre wants details. :)

    Actually, for some twisted reason, I've been in the mood lately for a '57-58 DeSoto or Chrysler 4-door hardtop. I always thought these were pretty cars.
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