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1) Can anyone recommend (or not recommend) any local or nearby dealerships?
2) I'm kind of confused about the C4C pricings people have been putting out, I may do a trade in (3 year old car) or sell it at Carmax (whoever offers closet to whats owed). Exactly what kind of OTD prices have people been getting? At carbuyingtips.com I've read some people haggling down to almost 17k!
3) When y'all say OTD price, is that the final price or will they include TTT or something else at the end?
4) Are there any holdbacks, incentives, etc. I should know about when working the price on my purchase?
5) Anything else you wanna throw out there for me would help, thanks! This is my second car purchase; I do know most of the basics of not running the credit, not saying how I'm paying or that I'm doing trade ins, making them fight each other for the chance to sell me a car...
moyboys: if you don't mind me asking, how much was the dealer fee and ttl? Just wondering what to expect from honda... I know purchasing my first new car was a few hundred for the registration stuff, but just transferring shouldn't be as much right?
I read from some online forum that October will have big discount on old 09 models.
Your never gonna find an OTD price of 17.5k or 18k for a 09 Civic EX. You can easily find a price like that for just the car, but then ur gonna have to add taxes, tag, and title to it. Your prices are more like an LX than an EX. I bought an 09 EX back in May for about $19,4xx if that helps.
You got that right. I was originally in the market for a Civic before I realized that even with the clunkers program it was out of my price range with the options I wanted. I went in for a Hyundai Elantra instead. On the Hyundai forum too, you hear about deals that sound too good to be true (and are in fact unlikely to be true, from what I've observed).
I thought to myself, why in the world would someone lie about the deal they got on their car? First off, it hurts other people who are looking for legitimate information because it gives them false expectations. Also, who in their right mind would lie on an internet post to make their deal sound better than it was? What's the motivation? The admiration of anonymous strangers who are impressed by your fictitious deal?
Then I remembered that people are frickin ridiculous and out of their minds, and will make up stuff at the drop of a hat for no good reason. Unfortunate, but true.
You kind of have to take the average of the prices people claimed to have gotten, while eliminating the ones that sound too absurdly good to be true.
This was essentially a cash for **dealers** program, uninformed buyers storming showrooms for a "free" $4000 in cash. Obviously in a (temporary-- with a deadline) seller's market the lx that sat unsold at $16200 suddenly has a price of $18500 (msrp) + $1000 for fabric & protection pkg. The gov't money replacing the manufacturer and dealer incentives for a month. If the "clunker"was worth $1500 or so many probably made off worse than they would have a month before.
The vast majority of posts are legitimate. There's no reason to believe otherswise. Some confuse their trade in the deal, others forget taxes can vary from $200-$2000 depending on state, making otd rather relative, and you have to do a little interpolating.
If the traditional August price breaks were ruined for many buyers by this dopey gov't program thats that. If inventories of some models are still rather high, deals may be found there.
The Civic, Corolla and Ford Focus were the most popular C4C vehicles, which made up about 600,000 of the (record)1,000,000 vehicles sold this month. We'll probably be back to 500,000 /mo sales soon.
Good luck
--jjf
One thing to keep in mind is that dealers in different areas are likely to quote different prices for various reasons. Also, keep in mind when they bought. My daughter bought her car the first day of the C4C program (she did not use that) and got a price for an LX of $15,600. This is not out the door but the price of the car and includes destination. Sales taxes, dealer fees, etc may be much different where you or others live than where we live so an OTD price is hard to measure against. Once dealers saw that everyone and his mother wanted to buy a civic the prices went up drastically. From what I read on this thread if she waited one more week to buy she probably would have paid at least $2000 more. So please keep this in mind when you find it hard to believe that people paid less. They DID but not now.
Then I remembered that people are frickin ridiculous and out of their minds, and will make up stuff at the drop of a hat for no good reason. Unfortunate, but true.
You kind of have to take the average of the prices people claimed to have gotten, while eliminating the ones that sound too absurdly good to be true.
It's a sad day...
Is 17800 for a 2009 LX Sedan Automatic a good OTD price?
Is 19700 for a 2009 EX Sedan Automatic a good OTD price?
Which is the better deal if so?
Thanks
I found most Florida dealers charge $600 dealer fees. Is that typical for Florida dealers?
I figure I can drive one out at $18.5k. I was told that the dealer fee is $299. but it may show different on the paper work.
FYI, I also quote for a corolla LE, and the dealer fee is $499. $600 seems high for me.
Good Luck
"your price is 16,946 plus tax and fees. otd is 18,779.00"
for a new 09 civix LX automatic.. tyring to get that number down.
plz email me at jules.walker@gmail.com
I just get this price from the dealer near MA.
Is a good deal or bad deal to go ahead ?
Thanks.
My 2009 AT 4-dr silver Civic Sedan was 15,417.xx incl. dest. only, on July 6th. LA county tax & lic + doc fee = $17,177.xx OTD.
My salesperson honored the internet price quote & gave me early, the weekend special price available at that time which was 100 dollars LESS than quoted [no dealer adds either] !! Finance was a breeze, extras were offered, but no hard sell. Their Service dept. was great too!! FIRST CLASS ALL THE WAY. in/out 1-1.5 hr. you can go fast or slow/ your choice.
CAUTION: due to C4C program+ higher demand/ less stock, current prices are likely higher; but I still think SPREEN HONDA's your best bet for 2009 LX/EX civics!! In July, EX was approx 1400.xx > the LX price without extras=navi, leather/ T or Lic, etc. GOOD LUCK ALL
Looking for **2009** Civic LX 4 dr. sedan...lot was FULL of them...offered $16,100 - $16,200 + fees paid by us and they are all laughing at us. Won't budge below $16,800 + fees bringing OTD to $17,700.
Purchased both of our previous Honda's - in a GOOD economy - in California for $300 over invoice about 10 yrs. ago...but how can they be tripling this profit in such a sour economy. Husband works in investments and calculated that the increase should have brought the amount over invoice in today's dollars to about $450 (?) vs. $300...but not up to $1,000.
I can only imagine that they are trying to make up for this horrible year, but this seems absurd. Are they really telling their sales guys and managers to hold on. However...we are also hanging on by our fingernails financially and are only buying this car because we absolutely have to, so we can't take that hit either.
At a loss here...
I'm looking at an ad for '07 Honda Civic EX sedan. It has a sunroof, cloth seats, and 55,000 miles and it is listed for $13,995
Couple things I'm worried about is the relatively high mileage and that the dealer is not a Honda dealership (Infiniti dealer). I'll have to send my mechanic to check the car out for problems but does this look like a fair deal?
Any inputs will be appreciated-
Towed it to my mechanic- He states that once they did a pressure test that a stream of water pissed out of the ENGINE BLOCK? He said in his 40 yrs working on hondas he has never seen anything like it.
Took it to the dealer and they seemed to know what exactly was going on- The dude has a diagram of the engine and where these leaks would appear from. They are looking the entire engine over to see if any damaged was caused internally- either way I am getting a brand new bottom half of the engine block- it'll take two weeks and they spotted me a loner for that time- There were 10 civics backed up in this bay. he stated, once I pressed him- that this will happen to all 2006-2008 civics-
Ya'll be on your toes. I'll give updates once this moves along.
Be aware!
Since this is a pricing discussion, you might try posting your problem in the Honda Civic 2006-2007 Issues
discussion, and see if anyone else has had your problem, and what sort of result they had.
regards,
kyfdx
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OTD - 18.7k
Car itself - 16.9k
Trade in - 9500 (and sales tax savings about 500)
So after researching on edmunds, carbuyingtips and truecar I was hoping for an OTD price closer to 17k. But calling around to all the local dealerships (up to an hour away) I found very few '09 Honda Civic LX coupes (auto) available. Most wanted around 19k but found two (one local, one about an hour away) that would come near 18.5k. So made arrangements to come in the next day to try to purchase it (at the local one). Salesman said he was coming in on his day off for me but when I arrived a lil early he was helping another customer already. He introduced to a different sales person who took me out to see the car. Insisted I had to ride in the car with him or he would get in trouble so circled around the lot and parked up front to go back into the office.
Inside the office it began. Some silly offer of 19k or more... no I was told 18.5. Original sales person arrives and agrees to that price. Then tries to stick in another 200 for some 1300 of accessories (all I saw was pin stripe and floor mats). Told him what he added on wasn't my problem, he quoted me 18.5 on the only 2009 he had in stock and its options already right?
Anyways while talking about that I was reading over the other numbers which confused me. Yes I was doing a trade in, but I was paying the difference owed so in my calculations it had no bearing (of course they put the trade in up top tho to confuse me, prefer doing two separate calculations). If I'm getting about 500 in tax savings and the OTD price is 18.5, shouldn't the final price be 18? After a few minutes he said he didn't think he would be able to explain it to me with an answer I'd be satisfied in he agreed to make it work so I'd the 18.2 after the 500 tax savings. Was out in less than four hours after all the paperwork, negotiating the final price took a lil over an hour.
Not too much pressure on agreeing on their price, very willing to work with me so great service in that aspect. Disliked having to work it down from the 19k after an agreed upon price and the silly accessories (I still have no idea what they are other than the mats and pin stripes since nothing is said about dealer addon's on contract or window tag).
Was working to get payments as low as possible so went for the 72 months at 5.99apr (304/month). Could have gotten the 2.9 at 60, but would have been paying as much as on my old car (340/month). Average price I figure since most are showing 16.5 to 17.5 for just the car.
Thanks for all your help and advice thru out the boards. My friends will be here during their experiences, they wanna know all my resources. Prolly won't talk too much more til my next car purchase, so see you then! :shades:
I am interested in a leftover '09 EX Auto w/Navi and there are a couple of dealers in my city that have a few of these left over.
Edmunds Invoice price for this vehicle is $21,060. Any suggestions on what a reasonable OTD (excluding tax, tag, title), I should be shooting for?
I figured $500 below invoice as a target. Any thoughts?
Bottom line: Buy now for 18.5K? or wait later for it to drop