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2013 and earlier-Honda Civic Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • jamtracyjamtracy Posts: 74
    edited August 2010
    That's funny that another person posted saying Livermore in Norcal. I bought my LX auto Coupe in norcal. Livermore's price for the sedan was 15197 which included destination. No addons no BS. This was at the END of May. You should be able to get close to that price in so cal plus I think your sales tax is a whopping 1% less than Norcal. Good luck!
  • Are these prices out the door cost? If so than that is a really good deal.
  • jamtracyjamtracy Posts: 74
    edited August 2010
    Yeah maybe in a state with no sales tax like Oregon. My OTD price is as follows:

    LX Coupe 15150 (includes dest) 15297 if I wanted the sedan.
    tax 9.75 percent
    55 doc
    registration/tire fee/etc....
    OTD 17959 in Northern California

    I bought mine at the end of May.
  • congngecongnge Posts: 2
    Hi all,

    I am from Plano, TX. Just bought 2010 Civic LX, auto on Friday for 17,200 OTD price including Window Tinting. Sales tax here is 6.25%. Dealer name is David Mc David in Frico, TX.
  • Hi,
    Thank you for all your inputs regarding about my question, so far the lowest quote I have gotten is $17,800 OTD with 1.9% interest rate about 5 weeks ago, and I am not sure if this quote is still good with the new 0.9% interest rate.
    Also does any knows if the 2011 Civic Sedan will be a new body style or just a carry over of the 2010 Civic? so far my research has shown that the style will be change for the 2012. Still I am wondering if these rumors valid? Dealers refused to disclose the upcoming Civics and even North American Honda Customer Service gave me a run around. Does anyone has any relative or friends that work in Honda Plants which can reveal the 2011 look like?
  • legacy87legacy87 Posts: 10
    edited August 2010
    Can you give us the breakdown of the cost? I understand that CA sales tax is a real pain. I read somewhere that 2011 will have the same body style as 2010.

    Also, if you can't find any good deals around LA, I recommend trying to find dealership 2 or 3h away. I know for VT, none of the local dealers were willing to bargain. So I had to go 150 miles away, which in the end was worth it when I save about $750 from what I would have paid if I were to go to a local dealer.

    Also, never believe a salesperson when they say, "We got the lowest price. Noone can beat our price." I emailed the local dealer back when I purchased the car $750 cheaper from what they offered. I never got a response back. Take that salesperson!!!
  • jamtracyjamtracy Posts: 74
    OTD was 16959 not 17959.
  • dwynnedwynne Posts: 4,018
    The 2011 was supposed to be a redesign, but I heard it was pushed back to the 2012 model year. So as far as anyone *I* talked to knows, the cars will only have minor improvements for 2011. The later in the build cycle the more reliable, so a 2010 or 2011 would be about as good as it gets - and the new model will always be more problematic (even Honda has issues with new designs). The resale value of the end of design will usually take a harder hit than normal, because "for just a little more" someone could buy a used model of the new design. Of course, that all assumes the new design is more appealing than what it replaced. Deals for the left over end of cycle models tend to be the best, while you may have to wait longer for deals on the new design.
  • Can anybody tell me if $18,500 is a good price for 2010 Honda Civic EX Sedan? If not what would be a good price to buy?
  • jamtracyjamtracy Posts: 74
    Under 17K Auto Sedan including destination......
  • Did you mean for EX? Where do you live? Is it in Des Moines Area?
  • jamtracyjamtracy Posts: 74
    Yes EX that is what is in your Title. I live in Northern California.
  • Hi,

    I have been going back and forth with a couple dealers on a 2010 Civic SI Sedan, and the best price I could get was $20,300 O.T.D. + Title/Registration. Anyone know if this is a good deal?

    Thanks
  • leahchchleahchch Posts: 10
    Then, how much the 2010 Honda Civic Sedan EX-L Auto?
  • jamtracyjamtracy Posts: 74
    That one I'm not sure about. Maybe 19K including dest? I only pursued the LX and EX and went with the LX because the extra's for the EX wasn't worth it for me. I only miss the outside temp gauge and the remote for the trunk on the key fob. Not worth $1800 for those two items. I don't think the civic is worth leather seats either. Not comfortable enough. These are just my opinions.

    Take care and good luck!
  • leahchchleahchch Posts: 10
    Thank you for your information, and it is really helpful.
  • leahchchleahchch Posts: 10
    I mailed a dealer and asked about the quote and the break down cost, and the reply is:
    ---------------------------------------
    Sale price:$17,995.00
    Trade value:$0.00
    Net difference:$17,995.00

    FLA. Tire disposal fee:$2.00
    FLA. Lead-acid battery disposal fee: $6.50
    Pre-delivery service fee:$599.00
    Amount taxable on vehicle: $18,602.50
    Sales tax = 6% with $25 fee $1,141.15
    $50 fee reflected here: $50.00
    Tag fee NEW=$425/transfer=$250 $250

    Cash balance due on vehicle: $20,043.65

    As this is my first tme to buy a new car, so I do not know whether the fee's charged above is reasonable or not, can anyone tell me? Also, what is the best offer around Orlando area?
  • dwynnedwynne Posts: 4,018
    The "pre delivery service fee" is BS (usually) and the $25 fee and $50 fees are not explained. The EX sedan w/auto has an invoice price of $19,403 and there is $1k in dealer cash (if you don't use the cheap 0.9% loan). Your price is $17,995 + $599 = $18,594 and maybe those other two fees. Your net price (car w/destination + dealer fees) is $809 under invoice. So while the fee may be bogus, the NET price looks pretty good to me. Edmunds shows "TMV" at $18,750 for this model.
  • legacy87legacy87 Posts: 10
    @leahchch: Even though it's under invoice, you can still get a BETTER deal. This dealership looks questionable especially when they give you all these BS fees. Generally, the only legit fees are the following:

    1. Destination Fee ($750)
    2. Sales Tax
    3. DMV/registration/title
    4. Doc Fee (ranges from $75-250's depending on the dealership)

    Go to another dealership where they give you less BS. Edmunds TMV may be outdated because we are in August, and the new model is coming out in Sept or Oct.

    My suggestion is get a quote from 5-7 dealers. Once you find a good deal, send the email quote to other competitors to see if they can offer a better deal. This will hopefully lead to a price war (this works better at the end of the month when they need to meet their quota).

    I had to drive 3h away to buy my car, but it was worth it driving back with my new ride that was $700 cheaper than all my local dealers. =)
  • dwynnedwynne Posts: 4,018
    You have to just look at the net price - car, with destination, and any dealer fees - and compare to other dealer quotes. I leased 2 cars from a Honda dealer with a $500 or so "doc" fee - but my net price in both cases was way below invoice and into the holdback. So I don't let the fees scare me off, and I do recommend as you do that everyone get many quotes and from local and distant dealers as long as they compare the price for the car+dest+fees then they can find the best deal.
  • Hi ,

    I got a price quote of $15700 (inc. destination charge) + 6.25 taxes, documentation charges with 0.9 % APR.

    Dealer also offered that if I co go for other bank loans of 2.45% APR, he is ready to give me further discount. Really not sure, what does this dealer provided auto loan is and what are all the catches..

    Want to close the deal...Pl. suggest whether it is good deal in MA..Or any other room for negotation.

    thanks
    venky
  • dwynnedwynne Posts: 4,018
    As long as the dealer loan is simple interest with no set up fee and is the same term in months then it should be no problem. Also see what your bank or credit union is doing for new cars. CapitalOne online is doing 3.07% for 60 months.

    You can plug the numbers into the Edmund low apr VS cash back calculator here at this link and see how it changes things. If you use $1,000 as the customer cash, 0.9% and 2.45% as the APR, and 60 months as the term the 2.45% wins out by $6.47 a month (tax included). Change the rate to 3.07% and the difference goes to $2.17 a month.

    You are not going to save a LOT doing this, assuming the dealer gives you all of the $1,000 dealer money for taking the higher rate and does deliver on a 60 month 2.45% simple interest loan.
  • karsankarsan Posts: 1
    One of the dealer's in my area (WA) is quoting $17,588 (does not include any fees) for a used 2010 EX Coupe. Is this a good buy?
  • Can someone Help me with the Edmunds TMV calculator while pricing with the 2010 civic 1000 dollar cash back offer?

    For example, a simple 2010 LX 4dr Sedan in the TMV calculator comes out the be $16’978 TMV. But, The TMV calculator “does not take into account Manufacturer-to-consumer rebates”. Subtracting another thousand dollars from the TMV price does not seem correct after reading the LX OTD price posts here. Can someone get me pointed in the right direction, thanks in advance.
  • I am in Vermont and have been pricing out dealers throughout the state, upstate NY and in NH. I'm not finding any dealer that has negotiating room below $17,500 before incentives. Any advice/thoughts?
  • dwynnedwynne Posts: 4,018
    It probably depends on the ZIP you use, but for me the LX auto Civic sedan comes up $19,155 $17,706 $17,028 (MSRP, invoice, TMV). I am pretty SURE the TMV takes into account the $1k in dealer money. So if you take the 0.9% financing your TMV would be $!k higher.

    Everything is negotiable and you may find a dealer that will give a much nicer deal, a lot of the pricing is timing and location. So if you may not can replicate what someone else claims they were able to do - since you are not there at the same time as they got their deal.
  • dwynnedwynne Posts: 4,018
    Did you check to see that in your area there is a $1k dealer incentive?

    $17,523 is invoice for a coupe LX w/auto, so your quotes are all for invoice? Then if you take the 0.9% financing that would be your price, don't take the cheap money and your price should go down by $1k. Not the worlds best deal, but getting a new Civic for invoice or less is never a bad deal. If could be that is the best you can do in your area...
  • Yes, zip code will differ and yes I have the offer in my area. Going for a cash deal no financing. The TMV terms say “does not take into account Manufacturer-to-consumer rebates”. It also says the same for Tax. But like dynne, I was leaning to the same conclusion, that the TMV price posted does include the thousand dollar cash back. Even though the Edmunds TMV price terms say otherwise. Strange. Cash back car buyers would have to know the answer before they walked into a dealer with their Edmund TMV price in their pocket. If you take another grand off the TMV price quote it seems too low to be true.
  • dwynnedwynne Posts: 4,018
    “does not take into account Manufacturer-to-consumer rebates”.

    There is your answer, right there. This is factory to DEALER money not to consumer. Honda never has consumer rebates.

    From the edmunds incentive page:

    Marketing Support
    $1000 Cash to Dealer start: 07/31/2010 end: 09/07/2010
    $1,000 Dealer Cash available towards the retail purchase or lease of a new 2010 Civic (excluding Hybrid and GX). Cash can be combined with Special AHFC Lease/Purchase Plan or Zero Due at Signing Lease, but cannot be combined with Special AHFC APR Financing. See participating dealer for details.
    Comments Dealer participation may vary. Incentives and Rebates are provided subject to the terms of our Visitor Agreement.
  • Great thanks for the feedback. TMV quote does indeed apply the Manufacturer-to-Dealer, not the other way. I have, in the past, used Both the cash-back to dealer or to Customer in negotiations. In my experience, the sales person did not care either way. So hopefully others can use this to their advantage. Good luck everyone, appreciate the help dwynne.
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