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2013 and earlier-Honda Civic Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • My insurance company couldn't really give a straight answer on why it would be higher...just that it a higher "symbol" than the Accord. I think, though, in the long run the fuel savings will more than offset the higher insurance premium.
  • Regarding supply. I spoke to my local dealer and I told him that I would be shopping sometime between Dec to Feb. He indicated that there would be plenty of civics to choose from then. Also, following Christmas, there is a shortage of buyers due to overspending on the holidays, so good deals should be easier to come by. Additional thoughts?
  • Would you mind stating the price you bought it at? With/ without navigation?

    Also, did you consider the subwoofer accessory at all?
  • In Edmund's book 'Strategy for Buying a Car,' there was a description of a Salesman who gave the Car Buyer seemingly a good deal on the new car, but gave him a bad deal on his trade-in. In the Salesman's own words, 'I stole his trade in.'

    Car Salemen have honed in the Car Buyer's vulnerable points. The new car buyer is anxious to get into his beautiful new car and is fixated on getting a good deal for his new car. Stealing his trade-in is like taking candy from a toddler.

    When a dealer buys a used car below what its true market value, and then sells the car, the car salesmen gets a certain percentage of the profit.

    Manny
  • Having had much painful experiences imposed upon me by questionable sales tactics at car dealerships, I still have only empathy for the Car Salesmen. After all they are just trying to make a living. In the system that is set up, a good deal for me is a bad deal for them.

    If I keep more of my money, I am depriving the salesmen more of their commission. The average salesmen does not live well. I found out that some salesmen have to hitch a ride to work or take the bus. They cannot afford a car.

    What do you guys and gals think?

    Manny
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,017
    Again... let's stay on topic...

    Got anything to say about buying a Civic?

    regards,
    kyfdx
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  • Trying to buy a Silver 06 Civic EX Coupe, Manual w/Navi and Fog Lights. MSRP is $21,032. Orlando, FL Dealer quoted me $21,150.00 plus a $500 "Dealer Document Fee". They say 3-4 weeks for delivery. Local Melbourne, FL dealer just said it would take them 3-4 MONTHS to get the car. I'm contacting the Cocoa, FL dealer.

    Buying a new car sucks. I'm paying a significant fraction of my expendable income on something and dealers expect me to treat buying a car like pushing quarters in a Coke machine.
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Posts: 2,882
    I hope my typing this post comes out as this web page has a bug in it and half of the box I'm typing in is half covered up.

    What dealer are you working with in Orlando? I too am in Orlando and have bought several Hondas so I can help with the experiences I've had. I've bought three Hondas, each from a different dealer. A '99 Odyssey from the dealership in Longwood. A '99 CRV from Coggin. And an '01 Accord from Classic. I'm closest to Classic and gave them first shot each time.

    The $500 dealer fee is standard, you won't get out of it.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,017
    Off-topic posts and responses to them have been deleted.. and, will continue to be...

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  • Has anyone reading this thread purchased an '06 Civic in Minnesota? I've never owned a Honda and would appreciate opinions on which dealer(s) offer the best combination of service, integrity and pricing.
  • I got a written quote of $20239 for an 2006 EX Auto Navi. This includes Mudflaps and destination fee. I left a deposit of $500 on a vehicle that is due to arrive in a few days. Is this a good deal for the pacific north west area?

    Strange that initially the sales person sent me a quote for $19510 for the same vehicle. Something flashed in my head that it seemed too good to be true. So I called and talked to her again and asked her what the MSRP was on the vehicle quote innocently. She said oops! that she gave me the original quote of $19510 was actually meant for the Manual EX Navi unit. She then increased the price to @20239 and asked me to either take it or leave it.

    Still contemplating, should I get my deposit back or go ahead with the sale. The civic does seem to be a great car.
  • Done my research, emailed lots of dealers in Mid-Atlantic, have some prices.

    The dealers that are bidding now are in the Washington Metro area, and I am trying to foresee a problem...I am a first time buyer and edmunds.com has been helpful so far.

    The lowest base price I can get is $15,825 and OTD is $17,054.

    I have one last dealer to hear from to beat that price, but if they don't, the first dealer wants a deposit on the car that would be here Monday.

    I have all of these things in emails, I have asked all the questions about the deposit I can think of--like if somehow the price went up and I decide not to buy it, I could get my deposit back.

    Am I missing anything? Is this price fair? Things to watch for?
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,638
    This new "Videos on Inside Line" blocks half the posts! Any way to get rid of this or at least move it?
  • I would make a deposit using my credit card. Also, make sure if they have any dealer installed options (mud guards, wheel locks etc.). The salesmen usually like to spring this stuff up when ur at the dealership.

    Well I'm looking to purchase a civic ex in the DC/Baltimore area too. What dealers have you contacted? Let me know!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,017
    When you find out, let me know.. ;)

    Seriously though, they are working on it... A big software load took place Monday night, and they are now working the bugs out... Hopefully, soon...

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  • If they gave you the price, you go ahead and finance and pay it off immediately.
    I have done so many times with no damage to credit but damage to dealer profit.
    Often they get to end of deal and say OK if you finance thru us. OK match this bank/credit union and OK.
  • Their condition was that I could not pay it off immediately. And the financing was to be done through them alone, and no matching period. It was a deal that I cannot accept.
  • I went through Classic via the web and got the response from Holler.
  • jnuzzijnuzzi Posts: 39
    I think Holler and Classic are owned by the same company. I bought my LX AT Sedan at Holler. :D
  • I think I may go with Space coast in Cocoa. No deals to be had for the Civic nearby and both dealerships say I have to wait at least til Jan to get my car. Now I'm pondering the Si vs the EX since I have to wait anyhow. It would be nice to know MSRP on the Si.
  • Hi,

    Do the invoice price on edmunds and yahoo include destination fee? i,m looking for a 06 Civic LX auto, the quote i got from a couple of bay area dealers are around MSRP, which is quite bad i think. cause i bought an Accord last year for 1500 under invoice. i know its not possible to get the similar deal for this one, but paying MSRP feels bad for me. Anyway, i could hold on for it cause im not in a rash. just wondering how much others pay for the LX in Bayarea CA.
    Thanks
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Posts: 2,882
    You're correct, both Holler and Classic are owned by the same parent company. I've heard since Classic was all remodelled that they don't deal at all.
    .
    Oh, and I did have a bad experience at Classic. I traded in a leased Odyssey, negotiated an out the door price, and they forgot to charge me sales tax, even after I questioned them on that. Long story, but it was ugly.
  • Any idea if the Si carries a bigger insurance burden?
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Posts: 2,882
    Don't know for sure, but I would imagine it does. High performance usually is more expensive to insure.
  • Just checked insureance. Only about $40/year difference between EX and SI
  • widow1widow1 Posts: 39
    Non-internet, face-to-face purchase of atomic blue 2006 Civic EX sedan automatic for $500 over invoice at Williamson Honda in Lincoln, Nebraska . Bought from just arrived allocation. No miles on the car besides my test drive. For another $100 fee I disposed of my current 2004 Civic EX sedan ( bought at $250 under invoice also from Williamson) through a Dealer Pass Through sales arrangement with the dealer. Got $14,100 for mine from my private buyer who purchased my trade from the dealer. A trade directly to
    the dealer would have netted me only in the low 12's for my car. Saved an additional $100 + on salestax over against a standard trade-in to the dealer.
  • I dropped off the desposit, I will forward all the info I have after (hopefully) the deal goes through (Monday?)
  • Jetlap:

    When asking for the price of a car, always ask if the quoted price include the destination fee or not. Edmunds list a MSRP National Base Price, and a MSRP National Base Price including destination charge.

    Also Edmunds mentioned a regional adjustment price depending on the region of the United States the car is located. The Invoice Price is listed 'in Invoice Price without the destination fee charge', or 'with the destination charge'.

    There is also a true invoice price after taking into account dealer holdback, which for the Honda Civic is 3%.
    This is the price after you have taken off the 3% holdback from the listed invoice price.

    The various ways of the seller listing the prices are many. The list price may or may not include dealer advertising fees, document processing fees etc.

    It is very confusing, and it is meant to be confusing. The buyer has to be very careful. And must asked about clarification before taking a long trip to the dealership.

    I had been quoted a prices of $500 above invoice for a civic EX, thinking that it was a great deal, then I found out that I must add $550 destination fee to it, and some other dealer's fee, which is also about $500.

    Then listen to this, since I have to get the car through 'Dealer Swap', there is a $500 added delivery charge for the car, and then there is the fee for the search for the car. (The delivery charge is because the car has to be on a truck, carried from the other dealer.)

    The 'search fee' compensates the dealer I went to, who requests the swap. Because it was explained to me, now the dealer I went to, owe the other dealer a favour, and must be compensated by me. (Besides, time has to be spent to locate the car as well.)

    To have it clarified I had to ask repeatedly to speak with the highest ranking manager on site over the telephone. I had to ask many times. The Dealer Swap fee and the search fee I did not know about, until I was actually in the Dealership. No one wanted to tell me before.

    I did not put my money down for the car there.

    Hope that this is helpful.

    Manny
  • widow1widow1 Posts: 39
    To be told you have to compensate a dealer for doing a dealer locate is a complete scam. Should never let them get away with that one !
    On a dealer trade $400 to transport a car via a truck is quite typical over longer distances. I've had many delivered for $100 or less by having the vehicle driven (Minneapolis to Omaha, Kansas City to Omaha) instead of trucked. I've even talked dealers into letting me do the driving on dealer swaps to save myself some money.
    As for being quoted a price at so many dollars over invoice, here in the Midwest that always includes the shipping cost. Recently, I priced some cars on the East Coast and the destination fee was never included in the price quote. In several inquiries I was not a told that, but, if you know the invoice price thanks to Edmunds and other consumer car buying guides, you should immediately be aware of that when you hear the quote.
    As for dealer doc fees, the Honda dealer in Lincoln, NE has none. In Omaha the 3 dealers charge $35 or less. We do not see $300/400/500 doc fees as you find on the coasts. I used to drive 3 and a half hours to Kansas City to buy Subarus from Jack Miller Subaru for they have no doc fee. Nor will you ever see "Additional Dealer Mark-Up" stickers next to the manufacturer's window sticker in this neck of the woods unlike in Sarasota, Florida where I saw a $2000 ADM on every car in an Acura lot. If you complained, the dealer immediately agreed to sell you the car at MSRP and hope that, relieved, the buyer would be sucker enough to buy at that price. Heck, I even saw $400 doc fees in Sarasota at a Ford dealer that would not honor a price quote given me by a manager over the phone, but tried to raise it $500 when I came to the dealer's lot. Oh, its so much better here in the Heartland where business practices are not so sharp. At a car dealer it's always "Buyer Beware," but there are vast regional differences in the level of awareness required on the part of the consumer
  • mldj98mldj98 Posts: 378
    Amen!!!!
    You said it all.....take it from me....I'm in Florida....and the fees are B.S.!!!!
    Back to the heartland I go.....can't wait!!!!! :o)
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