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Ford Explorer Mercury Mountaineer 2005 and earlier

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  • wblake99wblake99 Posts: 18
    I have found that I usually get better mileage with my Mountaineers with the towing package then others who don't have the tow package. The time of year can also make a difference with the water gas many have to use this time of year. I have also found that my 2002 seems to be sensitive to tire pressures. I usually run about 3 to 5 pounds over the recommended and it seems to help with gas mileage and tire wear also.

    We have an '06 Premier AWD with tow package on order (will be our 4th one) and I can't wait to get it and enjoy all the revisions.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,690
    '02 explorer v8, towing package. most miles 4 passengers and a cargo box on the top. 640 miles in 11 hours twice. this included a stop for gas, a meal stop, and 2 border crossings. 18.25 overall. pretty good in my book.
  • intmikintmik Posts: 6
    where would I locate the 5 digit keyless entry code for my 2002 Mountaineer?.My vehicle has gone in the security mode and will not start at all.the word " Security" keeps blinking in the instrument cluster an I hear the related rely clicking in the fuse box.Any hint will be greatly appreciated.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I'm told, it's a sticker on the computer module found behind the panel in the rear cargo area on the driver's side. I hope I'm right. The other way is to take the VIN to the dealer, they can look it up.

    Usually your keyless fob can also reset it....by pushing the lock button, followed by the unlock button. No luck there?
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    The 5 digit keyless entry code has nothing to do with the SecureLoc antitheft system.

    The truck when into security mode because you tried to start it with a key that was not programed to your truck.

    Use the other key.

    If you lost both original keys, you will need the dealer to program a key for you.

    Mark.
  • frrussrefrrussre Posts: 41
    mtnman, we visited Ohio State University, for my son. Re, the gas I was pretty pleased with it. Much better then my XLT V* 2004 "PiG".
    Reg. Frank R.
  • mtnman1mtnman1 Westerville, OhioPosts: 383
    Go Bucks! I'm a transplant from Pittsburgh back in '84 and now I'm a rabid Ohio State Fan. You either end up hating or loving them if you come from somewhere else and live here for a long time.
  • davidb5davidb5 Posts: 3
    The message center in the instrument cluster does not work sometime and when it is not working the lights for the radio and clock do not work. I had the instrument cluster replaced about 5 months ago because mesaage center not working. Anybody got any ideas on what is wrong or has anyone else had this problem. Thanks
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I don't mean to sound condecending at all - but is it possible maybe a parking or wash attendant is turning off the panel lights somehow?
  • 2003 Mountaineer V8
    Bought used laster year with 19000 miles on it. Since I've had it, I've only put about 6000 miles on it. What I have experienced, about 8 times in those 6000 miles, is that when I've made a turn where I was going a decent speed (45 - 55 mph), slowed down enough to make the turn... the engine cut out while making the turn! Has happened on left and right turns.

    I had found a summary report about some problems with the 2002-05 Mountainer, and it mentioned about when making aggressive "right" turns and cavitation in the fuel tank as fuel sloshes to one side, and the fix requires a redesigned fuel pump. I can't find a technical service bulletin on this though (I subscribed to a service where I could search all TBS for my vehicle and read full text).

    I've had it back to the Ford/Mercury dealer once, but of course since it didn't do it while they had it, they couldn't do anything other than run diagnostics and they same everything came up fine. They did say that that didn't mean there wasn't a problem somewhere, maybe in the fuel tank.

    Anyone have this happen to you where your Explorer or Mountaineer cut out in a turn?? The scarey part its that with no engine, I lose the power steering and it's a pretty heavy vehicle to try to steer safely into the shoulder of the road, and that is if I'm lucky enough to even have enough momentum at the time to get off the road... and of course there's always the person on your tail going into the turn... this really scares me when it happens, I can just see an accident waiting to happen.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    No, but now you know why it was for sale.
  • overcomeovercome Posts: 4
    i'm new to these forums. i'm looking for advice on purchasing a 2003 mer. mountaineer.
    Here is a link to the specific vehicle...
    http://www.colonialautosales.com/VehDetails.asp?CarID=2755856

    Any thoughts, comments? I am trading in my santa fe b/c I need more room. this mercury is fully loaded and i'll be honest, the luxury aspect appeals to me!

    TIA
    Ashley
  • steverstever Ex Yooper, just arrived in New MexicoPosts: 40,529
    As far as the price goes, you can appraise it here.

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  • overcomeovercome Posts: 4
    Thank you for your response. After using the appraiser, I feel that the price is fair, and am hoping to get some knocked off anyway.

    I'm more interested in anyone's experience with a Mer. Mt. 2003. I've read all the online reviews etc. but would like some "been there done that" experiences.

    Thanks!
    Ashley
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    The 03 Mountaineers are a good year to buy. They are past the first year blues the 02 can tend to have, and missed the 04 Transmission fluid issue, that ruined so many clutch packs on lots of Fords with the 5 speed transmission. You should be pretty happy with it. I've had 5 Explorer/Mountaineers. I was very happy with all of them except the 04 I have now, which is on the third transmisison. But that's been the only problem with it. IMO, they are the best designed SUV on the market. Not put together to Toyota standards quite, but a better design.
  • overcomeovercome Posts: 4
    Thank you! This is exactly the type of information I was looking for.

    I am going to test drive it again next week and then I will have to make a decision.

    :confuse:

    Anyone else??
    Ashley
  • Come on, was looking for serious helpful feedback not a sarcastic remark.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,690
    the plastic panel on my '02 explorer has been cracked for a while.
    last time i was in for service, i asked if there was any program to get it fixed. the sa said no.
    i resigned myself to the fact i was just going to have to pay to get it fixed, so i went up the to body shop to get an estimate to get it fixed.
    the lady at the desk said she would be happy to write up an estimate.
    right after that the body shop manager (ex assisant service manager)came out and we talked a bit.
    i knew him from way back when a tech damaged my car while in for service.
    instead of going into a long story, bottom line is the dealership and ford are going to pick up the whole $475.
    i even asked about them detailing it(my expense), but they said don't bother, it will look like new when you get it back.
    eventhough i had a 12+ hour day at work, i'm pretty jazzed. :shades:
  • Did you ever find a solution to this? My 03 Mountaineer AWD V8 does the same thing intermittently. Never does it for the mechanic and no codes show up. I've owned it since about 18,900 miles for just over a year and noticed the problem... now with 25,200 miles on it still doing it occasionally. Never does it when accelerating.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I'm sorry - I didn't mean to offend you. My comment was not helpful. I apologize.....
  • virgiesmomvirgiesmom Posts: 57
    I had the service mgr drive it for about an hour with me tagging along. Could not duplicate. Took back into garage and they downloaded new software and never had the problem since. This about 2 years ago. Which s/w I don't remember but I might have it in my service records. Let me know...
  • Can anyone recommend some sites that sell aftermarket accessories for a 2005 Explorer? I'm looking for running boards, tail light covers, etc. thanks!
  • goodsgoods Posts: 3
    Sorry for double posting, but I think this thread gets more looks

    I saw a ad on TV yesterday for either $269 or $279 a month lease. I live in NJ. I have been looking all over for the details of the lease because I just caught the last few seconds of the commercial. Most of the dealerships around here keep those incentive deals secret and try to hit you with a $600 lease for an explorer with a few options.

    Any help on finding where those lease deals are located online or if anyone has the current specs on that deal would be greatly appreciated. My guess is you have to be ex military, have never owned a ford, there needs to be an eclipse of the sun and you must have the first name Henry.

    Thanks
  • frrussrefrrussre Posts: 41
    I am on my 6th lease. First on this site work out the price, including loaded equipment. That will be a guide to the buying cost of the vehicle.
    Always find an advertisement Television/radio/newspapers, then add or subtract for less or more equipment. Never walk into a dealer cold and ask how much to lease a vehicle, only go to ones that you have ads for, even then, tell them you want to buy, not lease. Get the, buying price and use that as a basis for the lease price. Never lease for more then the life of the original warranty, i.e. never lease for more then 36 months, if warranty is for 36 months. Only lease from, the car manufactures bank, never a 3rd party bank, always get GAP insurance included. Watch out for last minute extras, don't pay for extended warranties,"Back end".
    Reg. Frank R.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    First this is the Program for MAY since the one for June isn't out yet.

    The advertised lease was $299 per month.

    This was a 4x4 Eddie Bauer with MSRP of $33,070. No moonroof and no 3rd row. 39 month 12,000 per year with $2393 due at signing plus 4 year reg and title fees at $399, Dealer Doc fee at ??? and sales tax.

    If you saw one advertised for lower, it was either more money out of pocket or rebates that you may not qualify for.

    Most people put down less (about $1,500) get a more expensive truck and end up with payments in the mid 400s.

    Mark.
  • frrussrefrrussre Posts: 41
    The Edddie Bauer deal has been around since Jan 06, I think. Here in NYC, they have been banging away with it, ads everywhere. its a stripped down EB. They have leased a lot of them, I see them all over the city. I did not take the deal, I have 2006 V8 XLT loaded.
    Reg. Frank R.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Here are the Top 20 vehicles in the U.S. market as of
    June 2, 2006

    May 2006 May 2005 Chng. '06 YTD '05 YTD Chng.
    1 Ford F - Series PU 70,175 74,494 -5.8% 334,725 335,269 -0.2%
    2 Chevrolet Silverado PU 55,316 60,473 -8.5% 258,378 274,869 -6.0%
    3 Toyota Camry / Hybrid 43,112 39,951 7.9% 177,090 178,890 -1.0%
    4 Toyota Corolla / Matrix 41,550 31,152 33.4% 159,992 147,146 8.7%
    5 Honda Accord / Hybrid 36,967 30,698 20.4% 145,529 143,304 1.6%
    6 Dodge Ram PU 29,599 38,051 -22.2% 150,799 163,094 -7.5%
    7 Honda Civic / Hybrid 29,006 24,765 17.1% 138,744 115,577 20.0%
    8 Chevrolet Impala 23,702 19,411 22.1% 114,014 107,181 6.4%
    9 Dodge Caravan 22,685 22,115 2.6% 103,876 103,811 0.1%
    10 Nissan Altima 21,981 23,900 -8.0% 102,785 108,237 -5.0%
    11 Chevrolet Cobalt 21,247 23,649 -10.2% 93,023 75,537 23.1%
    12 Ford Focus 20,391 18,047 13.0% 80,559 82,963 -2.9%
    13 GMC Sierra PU 17,756 19,255 -7.8% 80,957 87,210 -7.2%
    14 Chrysler Town & Country 17,326 17,194 0.8% 68,943 78,350 -12.0%
    15 Hyundai Sonata 17,035 8,043 111.8% 75,622 46,974 61.0%
    16 Honda Odyssey 16,887 16,412 2.9% 72,941 71,878 1.5%
    17 Ford Taurus 16,786 20,502 -18.1% 83,287 92,879 -10.3%
    18 Ford Explorer 16,717 19,539 -14.4% 77,205 105,925 -27.1%
    19 Chevrolet TrailBlazer 15,573 22,556 -31.0% 71,751 87,847 -18.3%
    20 Ford Mustang 15,559 19,721 -21.1% 72,119 81,541 -11.6%

    Note that only 2 SUVs even hit the chart this month, and both are losing volume. However, the Trailblazer is losing much faster than the Explorer is....
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,690
    thanks for posting those numbers.
    surprises me that many popular' vehicles are not in the top 20. 'hemi' got a lot of press. only 2 toyotas in the list, plus no lexus. weird.
  • goodsgoods Posts: 3
    Thanks fellas...I will keep hunting for the best price and Frank thanks for the tips, I didn't even think about that warranty issue. They have been pushing the lease for 39 months.

    Thanks again
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