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Ford Explorer Mercury Mountaineer 2005 and earlier

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  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    There are plenty of XLTs for the same or more cost than an Eddie Bauer. These XLTs have a lower lease residule, about 2%.

    The best deal is still an Eddie Bauer without the Luxary package.

    Mark.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Yeah, how bad must Chrysler feel, they have NOTHING on the list, not even the vaunted 300.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,618
    the ram truck, caravan, and t&c made the list, but nothing else. probably the same as 10 years ago.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Yes, you're right, I meant of their car line....
  • I'm trying to buy a retractable cargo cover for an '05 Explorer. Ford wants about $150 to buy it. I've searched online but have not found any sites that sell them. Does anyone know of any sites that would sell this item?
  • kwikbillkwikbill Posts: 4
    Try E-bay...have been looking for one myself, and I have found several on there...
  • canddmeyercanddmeyer Posts: 383
    I know AdvanceTrac works in 2WD mode, but is it also working when an Explorer is in a 4WD ControlTrac mode? I'm not entirely convinced that AdvanceTrac even works while an Explorer is in any 4WD mode, i.e. 4X4 Auto. It appears ControlTrac takes over all applications and forgoes any of the AdvanceTrac advantages when 4WD is engaged. Am I wrong?

    I see however that Mountaineer's AdvanceTrac works in conjunction with the AWD. Any advice would be appreciated.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    AdvanceTrac is Ford's stability control system and works 100% of the time that the vehicle is in motion regardless of what mode your 4WD system is running in.
  • canddmeyercanddmeyer Posts: 383
    Thanks baggs32.....this is the answer I was hoping for.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,153
    Please visit the Ford Explorer/Mercury Mountaineer: MPG-Real World Numbers discussion and report on your gas mileage. Thanks!

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  • ustazzafustazzaf Posts: 311
    If you need it, EBay sells it. I have bought many things for my Mountaineert there. Guarantee atleast a half dozen covers available there.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I just returned from a 1000 mile road trip in my 04 Mountaineer, Premier, AWD V-8. I admit to being very pleasantly surprised with its performance. It's the first road trip we've ever had it on, as we always took our Navigator before. It's gone now, and this is our Vacation car.

    I was very surprised at how well it handled, how quiet it was, absolutely zero wind noise, minimal road noise, and it was nearly as comfortable to sit in as the Navigator. Never got tired, frankly. The seat was excellent.

    If it had a weakness, it's in the HP department. Even though it's a V-8, and there's "enough" power for all hills and vales, it's just "barely enough", and there's none to spare. I am used to better power from the Navigator I guess. It feels a little weak on high end acceleration.

    Overall though, I give it a surprisingly great thumbs up as a road car. As I said, I was surprised and delighted. :P
  • Anyone know of a fix for this: All of sudden, I have the following locking issues:
    1. external keypad will not lock the doors
    2. once locked, using the keypad will set off the alarm until the code sequence is completed
    3. the driver side door lock switch does not work unless the ignition is "on"
    4. the interior lights remain on even after locking the car with the keyfob, but eventually time-out and turn off

    I have tried reprogramming the door lock system, even tried disconnecting and reconnecting the battery in an effort to "reset" any confused computer.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    My great idea was the re-boot, and you've already tried that. I hope it's under warranty, because it sounds like your BCM is failing...... and that's a fortune! (Body Control Module)
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,618
    have your battery checked. you may need a new one.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Yeah.....could be a low voltage issue. Good thought.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
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  • Ok, while trying to merge into traffic I step on the gas pedal and .... NOTHING! Takes some 10-20 seconds for the car to take off, I mean a guy could get killed like that. In addition the car corners like water bed. Been complaining to the dealer about that for about 2 years, got various answers - my fave is this one from one of the Ford mechs 'oh, it's the new drive-by-wire system, they all do that'
    I finally got fed up when the backup warning system died without any warning, ABS light went on intermittently, and the Tire pressure monitor kept telling me the air is low every time the outside temp dipped below 55. All of this happend once before on the same car and was fixed about 6 months prior. Ah well, what did you expect from a $40K car?
    Part 2:
    So they fix it. Replaced the fuse, fixed the short, reprogrammed the transmission. Acceleration is greatly improved, handling is fantastic! (for a truck, that is), corners like a midsize car - perfect. It just feels much tighter, it's actually fun to drive now!
    So the question is - does reprogramming the tranny change the handling/cornering/damping characteristics?
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    It is suppose to do that. Your tire presure drops 1lb/sqin for ever 10 degree drop in temp. If you put the right presure into the tires when they are cold, the light won't come on.

    This is the whole point of the system, to tell you when external conditions affect the tire presure.

    Mark.
  • Ladies & Gents,

    I have virtually the same problem and am baffled. Installed a brand new battery and the problem persists.
    One slight difference in my issue is that the rear passenger door does not lock electronically, you must manually lock the door. But even after locking manually the alarm will not set. It beeps twice indicating that not all doors are closed but when you are in the vehicle, it never displays the door ajar message?
    Check all fuses etc, still no resolution. Any help would be appreciated.

    Regards,

    Jcolgan1
  • stewtostewto Posts: 11
    Thanks to all for the ideas; sorry took so long for me to follow-up. I've cried uncle and went to the dealer: Their report is a "shorted security control module" - $381 installed. I gave the green light and it should be ready tomorrow; I am not only hoping this remedies the situation, but also addresses the fact that the horn stopped working. (Dealer says it was horn ring contact which requires complete replacement of air bag assemble for $800 - but I suspect it's all related to the security problems - will post resolution after tomorrow so others can reference).
  • stewtostewto Posts: 11
    Resolution was to replace a fried Security Control Module. Parts and labor ~$400
    Case closed.
  • lrmet2lrmet2 Posts: 10
    I have an 2002 Mountaineer V8 AWD, bought it new. It's up to 80K miles and at 75K the extended warranty I bought ran out. I haven't been a real fan of my mercury mountaineer, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. The dealer's idea of service is to question me when I mention something that's wrong with the truck. It started the day I picked it up. The passenger side mirror was cracked and I had to argue with the service dept to have them repair it under warranty. Every time I went in to get service it was hard to get them to even look up TSBs for things. I went in there with the TSB numbers I found on the internet and the guy at the service desk told me it was invalid and refused to work on it. I finally gave up. Partly it's my fault for not finding and going to another Mercury dealer but my other car is an Infiniti and service there is quite the opposite experience. TSBs that I never got them to give attention to include the cracked plastic on the tailgate, the buzzing of the transfer case when it's cold, the arm rest they never fixed right when they replaced the passenger side mirror, jerky transmission. I can live with all of them. But now the oil gauge is going to zero when it's cold. It lasts from a second to 15 seconds and sometimes it repeats. I'm convinced it's a sensor because the engine runs fine without any change in how it sounds when it happens. I've liked the truck for it's towing capacity. I used to tow a boat every weekend but now it's only three times a year. My truck before this was a 1991 Explorer. 6 cyl. It lasted for 147K before I sold it. I thought the new '02 would be as good a truck but I'm sure I wouldn't buy another. I'd like to buy american, especially in the truck category, but the quality and how it's serviced have made me realize there is a reason why people are deciding to buy more reliable brands. And this mercury dealer is a Lincoln dealer too. We bought Mercury because we thought we were getting the higher level of quality and service than the standard Ford.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    There are good honest dealers out there. I assure you that if anyone at my dealer acted the way you described, they would get fired.

    The fact is that right now, there are TOO MANY FORD DEALERS! The worst are already going out of business. You can do your part to speed up the weeding out process by refusing to go to a crappy dealer.

    Mark.
  • Hi, I just bought a 2000 Explorer and had the same problem (wiper motor wouldn't start). Everything worked when I checked the vehicle before buying it. After reading your post about the back latch, I opened the rear window and closed it then opened the hatch and closed it and it now works fine. :)
  • ottavottav Posts: 31
    I have a 2005 Mountaineer with the 4.6L V8. The vehicle has 13,500 miles on it. A week ago I encountered a problem with the truck

    When I went to back the vehicle out of my garage, it only moved about 1 foot then stopped, as if something was blocking the tires. After I got out to check that this was not the case, I tried again with the same result. I called roadside assistance and when the tow truck driver came, he tried to back it out as well, with initially the same result. Then he gave it a lot of gas and it moved, but made a large bang from underneath the vehicle. He seemed to think it had something to do with the differential.

    The truck was towed to the dealership. I received a call from the service manager the next day, who told me they were not able to find anything wrong with the truck. It has also since worked fine for me, but I am still nervous about taking the truck on a long ride.

    Does anyone have any ideas, or run into a similar situation?
  • pnewbypnewby Posts: 277
    Just a couple of questions? What was the temp. in the garage? Were the wheels wet from either rain, snow or ice? I had a similar problem with an Aerostar several years ago, and it was ice in the brakes. Of course they were drum brakes, but could be a possibility.
  • ottavottav Posts: 31
    It's been mild in the Northeast, so I don't think temperature was a factor. It was at least 50 degrees in my garage. It hadn't rained either, so I don't think water was an issue either.
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