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Ford Explorer Mercury Mountaineer 2005 and earlier

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  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    ... let's not make it personal! :)

    tidester, host
  • wblake99wblake99 Posts: 18
    Just wanted to throw in my $.02 on the fuel mileage debate that came before the financing debate...

    I have an '02 AWD with the V8, towing package and my new transmission courtesy of the dealership that trashed my original one when replacing the solenoid that was causing rough shifting (rough shifting is better than no shifting!). :mad:

    Anyway, took a trip over the weekend and coming home filled up on the south side of Nashville headed back to Atlanta. After getting up to speed and setting the cruise on 80, I reset the fuel mileage computer and didn't touch it again until I got home. After approximately 280 miles, including a rainstorm getting into Atlanta, the computer showed 19.4 mpg average. Unfortunately, by the time we got home I was too tired to go fill up again to make my own calculation before I drove in rush hour traffic to work the next morning.

    My point, I guess, is that I routinely get better than 19 mpg in freeway driving in excess of 70 mph. I can't wait to get a new '06 with the more powerful engine and 6 speed tranny! :)
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    My point, I guess, is that I routinely get better than 19 mpg in freeway driving in excess of 70 mph. I can't wait to get a new '06 with the more powerful engine and 6 speed tranny!

    The moon and the stars must be in alignment.........(however, I would not trust that onboard computer!)
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,451
    hey chuck1. last weekend 355.7 miles, 17.8 gallons. do the math. :)
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    No one said it is not possible. However, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE in excess of 70mph. Unless there is a tremendous tailwind!
  • Now you guys are making me feel bad, with my 2000 XLT 5.0L V8 only getting 14 around town and maybe 15 to 16 on the road. Of course, I have it floored most of the time!
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Posts: 792
    We drove our 2002 Mountaineer with the tow package (and therefore the 3.73 rear end) from CA to St. Louis when ti was a few days old). It got up to 19 on the highway even then. We average less, but that is due to CA traffic (15.9 is the current reading). We are also looking forward to the new engine and 6-speed transmission,a nd appreciate Ford's practice of making engines which run on regular.
  • spring25spring25 Posts: 11
    Hi, I would like to ask you if you are truly happy with your Mountaineer?
    I own a Nissan Altima 1998 and I hadn't any problems with it but now I have 3 girls and it is time for me to change the family car. I am very unconfortable driving my small Altima with my three girls, and 2 of them still in car seats. Do you recomend me the Mountaineer as a good save family SUV?
    I would appreciate any recomendations. I also don't want to get in deep debts and hight car payments because my car deal was a ripe off. I didn't know better back them but now I am making sure I do my homework researching in deep my next car before I purchase.
    Thanks,
    Spring25image
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,451
    sorry chuck most miles were between 75-80 mph. i am pretty good at holding a speed for a long time. downshifting from overdrive kills the mileage. road was i-84 west from central ct and i-81 south through harrisburg to 15 south toward frederick. it's not exactly flat either.
  • wblake99wblake99 Posts: 18
    chuck1...I see in another forum where you posted that you traded your '02 Explorer V6 for a 4 Runner V8 and you are happy that your V8 is getting the same mileage as your Explorer did (you also are basing that on the on-board computer that you tell me not to trust?).

    I would be very disappointed if I bought another truck that is roughly the same size with a larger, more powerful engine and got the same mileage. The bigger engine will use more fuel from a standing start, but SHOULD use less to keep it going since it does not have to work as hard.

    I used to get about 10 mpg in town with my '70 Mustang but would get 25+ on the highway since it didn't have to work hard. I actually would de-tune it for long cross country trips and once got around 40 mpg on the highway, but it barely ran at idle!

    I always use cruise control and don't vary my speed unless I am forced to, unlike many other folks I come across that seem to accelerate every time they change lanes :confuse:
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Posts: 792
    Yes, the Mountaineer and Explorer and excellent vehicles, and the 2006 versions will have significant improvements. My only complaint is that our 2002 Mountaineer does not ride as smoothly as I need for the lousy California roads. It does handle well, and it does ride far more smoothly than older designs and anything with a solid rear axle. However, the new frame and suspensions and other improvements should make the 2006 models significantly smoother. There is a good write-up on the improvements on the 2006 Mountaineer on the Ford media web site

    http://www.media.ford.com

    They are vehicles which offer the top safety features, planty of space, but not the bulk of larger SUVs or minivans, so they are easy to park, make U-turns and save on fuel (over larger vehicles).

    Choose whichever one looks best and gives the features you want, as they are the same, except for appearance and option combinations. You should be able to buy either for invoice or below, even if the "employee pricing" promotions do not continue - simply send bid letters to several dealers if your first choice dealer's fleet / internet department wants too much.
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    chuck1...I see in another forum where you posted that you traded your '02 Explorer V6 for a 4 Runner V8 and you are happy that your V8 is getting the same mileage as your Explorer did (you also are basing that on the on-board computer that you tell me not to trust?).

    OK-guilty as charged. I haven't been through a whole tank of gas yet on the new 4Runner. I was looking at the onboard computer. The 4Runner has 5,000 miles on it. It was a dealer demo. So, I will measure this tank. Although with only 5K on it, don't know if it'd quite time to figure real world mpg. But I will let you know! :surprise:
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Well, for one - the V-8 in the 4-runner isn't that much more displacement than the 4.0L six in your Explorer....

    Secondly - it's not uncommon for the larger engine option to equal the smaller one in economy, since you have so much mass to move, the smaller engine often works much harder than the 8 does, which uses about as much gas.

    It takes so much energy to move a vehicle. The power plant that moves it needs to use a quantified amount of fuel to do it generally.

    The 4-runner is a great truck - but it's very trucky. Too trucky for my taste. I need more comfort for most of my driving, easier steering, better ride, etc.
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    "Well, for one - the V-8 in the 4-runner isn't that much more displacement than the 4.0L six in your Explorer....'

    NVbanker.....the V6 in my Explorer was rated at 210HP. The V8 in the 4Runner is now at 270HP! It is a DOHC 32 valve motor! Also, it is a sport Edition and has the "X-REAS" suspension setup. It uses hydraulic fluid lines run to the opposite corners of the vehicle (example left rear to right front) shock absorbers to put the fluid where it is needed most. Hence, an "almost" sports car feel on corners. Also, the five speed automatic is so buttery smooth you can't even tell it is shifting. I hate to say this-but when it comes to powertrain refinement-the Toyota has the Explorer beat "hands down". Yeah, it has a solid axle, but with the sophisticated suspension setup, one can hardly tell. You know NVBanker-you have very discerning taste, you should take one on a test drive! The steering...very accurate. It is a VARIABLE GEAR rack and pinion setup!
  • lateralglateralg Posts: 929
    "when it comes to powertrain refinement-the Toyota has the Explorer beat "hands down". "

    Probably true for 2005 & earlier. Explorer leap-frogs Toyota in 2006 with the 292 HP, 3-valve 4.6L engine and world-class SIX speed, buttery-smooth transmission.
  • nymomnymom Posts: 17
    Hello,
    I am interested in purchasing a 05 Explorer XLT but was wondering if anyone had experience with the Explorer and Car Seats. We currently have two children under the age of four both in car seats. We would like to add to our family in the coming year and we are looking for a vehicle that can handle three car seats across in the second row. Like the XLT because if we needed to carry an extra person we could put them or one of the kids in the third row. Any one with knowledge about this i would love to hear your thoughts! Want to get an idea about how car seats may fit before i drag the family to the dealership for a test drive. Thanks in advance!!
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    Explorer leap-frogs Toyota in 2006 with the 292 HP, 3-valve 4.6L engine and world-class SIX speed, buttery-smooth transmission.

    Well, the five speed in my '02 was supposed to be a great transmission. While making the motor turnover low RPMs at highway speeds - translating in to 20 mpg; it wasn't very smooth around town. Having the solenoid replaced helped some! So I guess time will prove your statement accurate.

    Happy Motoring.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    "You know NVBanker-you have very discerning taste, you should take one on a test drive!"

    Chuck - Toyota is my second favorite brand in the world. I bought an 04 4-runner for my neighbor, and drove it extensively. I'm very familiar with it. I was quite disappointed with how it drove. Much more like a Jeep, frankly, except the hood bubble is so high, you can't see the ground in front of you, which if you're off road, is a problem. No question, the power train is probably the finest in the world, and that's why she wanted it - reliability. She's happy with it. But it didn't work for me - if the car is too hard to drive, too much effort in the steering, and these have a LOT of effort to steer, I don't like 'em. YMMV. Enjoy your Runner. It'll last forever.
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,661
    Forgive my query, and I do hope you are correct, but how do you know that Ford's six speed tranny will be buttery smooth???...do any current models have that same 6 speed tranny now???
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    The Navigator has it, and its awesome.
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