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Ford Explorer Mercury Mountaineer 2005 and earlier

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  • pwash19pwash19 Posts: 14
    I'll continue to drive our 98 Blazer. I just got back from driving both the Mountaineer and XLT 4x4. I was at first excited to finally see them on the lot in the small little town we live in. We are always the last to see something new. However, the inspection and test drive left me walking away still looking for another car/suv. Yes they do have a better ride and has this and it has that. What they do not have is, is, my undivided attention in the areas of quality and the feel that it is built/designed correctly. I just don't feel a winner here. Some examples are:
    The AWD on the Mountaineer is always roaring from the front end. The AWD causes the transmission to constantly down shift in the Mountaineer. It felt like I was driving around in an underpowerd 4 cyl. I did not get that from the XLT that had the 4x4 system. The steering was very tight (almost alarming) on the Mountaineer as I gave it a test but it did not feel top heavy. The Mountaineer transmission was not right. It did not shift properly. I kept telling myself it was new, it only had 4 miles on it when I took it for a test drive. I have alot of test drives from most makes under my belt and this was far from the smoothest shift I have witnessed. That concerns me. So I took the XLT out just to see if the roar from the front end was gone and if the transmission was different. Both items were not evident while dring the XLT. I have to tell the interior on the XLT looked and was cheap and put together poorly. I pointed out the center console construction (or lack of) to the salesperson. For 34K the XLT is not currently on my short list. The Mountaineer was only 35K and had more options than the XLT (heated seats, dual climate control, 5000 additional buttons that did all sorts of things). You be the judge. If you have to buy the EB or Limited to get some of the options that are on the Mountaineer the Mountaineer might be the better buy for less $$$.
  • gohuskiesgohuskies Posts: 40
    I drove a 2002 limited with a 4.0 V-6 today, the V-8 models will not be available for another 2-3 months. Great, smooth drive, acceptable exterior, cheap interior. The V-8 should add needed acceleration and passing power.
    The dash had a small amount of gray woodgrain around the radio AC control area, much better looking wood grain interior moldings on all the other SUVs I have driven. The high series center console looks like it came out of of an Escort, not a limited. But, the console did contain Air and heat vents for rear passengers. It had the third seat option and we could not get the seat to recline into a flat cargo deck configuration, probably our fault. It had optional rear air which means no moonroof because of the overhead vents and controls. I had the front seat moved back because I am 6'3" and had a difficult time entering/exiting the rear seat through the back door with the front seat in a tall person's position. My legs were also cramped when sitting behind the driver's seat. Some options like adjustable pedals, Homelink garage door opener, telescoping wheel and stability control will be available later in the model year. The dealers are issuing credits for the first three features which are not available.
    I would rate the 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited a little better on clear coat external finish and much better on interior material and quality. The Grand Cherokee Limited is also several thousand dollars cheaper with the current $2,000 rebate.
    I'm waiting for the Eddie Bauer series to arrive before making a decision.
  • reddy2reddy2 Posts: 1
    I was just at a dealer who said they are expecting a delivery of Explores with V8s April 2nd. He also metioned the "to come later items" will also be available at that time. Has anyone else heard of this sort of this time scedule?
  • scottnsc1scottnsc1 Posts: 16
    Has anyone leased an '02 Explorer and if so can you share an estimated payment. GM is being ridiculous with their new SUV's, but I had heard that Ford was offering good rates on even the '02's.

    I am not wild about the interior, but maybe it will grown on me. I would definately have to have the EB or Limited because the gray plastic bumpers scream "Cheap, Cheap, Cheap."
  • I visited one of the Ford dealers here in KC today - they had 8 '02 Explorers on the lot. One of them was a white Limited with the silver around the bottom, and it was very nice with the gray leather inside.

    I was comparing the sticker of it (around $36,500) to an EB, and there was no difference. Actually, I found an EB that was a couple 100 dollars more than the Limited. Does anyone know what the difference in options/features are, if any?

    Thanks.
  • does anyone know if the new 2002 Explorer/MOuntaineer platform has a lower center of gravity than the previous one?
  • From what i can remmeber, the EB and Limited are the same except for different available grill color, and wheel style. If you can do without the 4Wd, and accept AWD, the Mountaineer when equipped similarly is less expensive than the limited or eb. I also like the mountaineer s styling better. I currently own a 96 XLT 4WD, which has been great. I plan on getting a 2002 Mountaineer when the V8, stablility conrol, rollover sensors, dual stage air bags become available later this year.
  • Hi, We bought a V-6 Eddie Bauer for $750.00 over invoice and got Ford financing of 6.9% for 36 months. I called two other dealers and they told me MSRP is the selling price. I had bought my 96 Explorer new from the same dealer, so I guess that helped. So, I know for a fact that Ford is dealing, I live in Maryland and would be happy to refer you to my salesman...... And we love the new Explorer and we never had a problem with our 96 either, which had 60,000 miles on it when we gave it to our daughter.
  • Good luck with your new EB. Sounds like you got a greate deal
  • anyone know of any other bulletin boards. web sites about the 2002 Mountaineer/Explorer
  • Does anyone have any idea when Ford will be offering Control Trac stability control for Explorers and Mountaineers?
  • rshinnrshinn Posts: 5
    I looked at 2002 Explorers at Portsmouth Ford
    in Portsmouth, NH today. They had a very good
    selection (15-20) and they were discount priced.
    $2500-3500 off MSRP depending on model. No haggle
    dealership. I think I'll wait for the V-8 and
    stability control.
  • I wrote control trac...it is really called advance trac...the ford stability control system.

    i d like to know if anyone knows or has any idea when will it be available...will it be available on 2002..or in future years..I d like to get my mountaineer before the end of this year.
  • I was reading the Ford news on www.blueovalnews.com earlier - looks like the new Explorer may have a recall coming soon - not good! It said they were having reports of the back tailgate glass breaking when the door was being shut. Anybody else heard this news other than from the Blue Oval News site?
  • elemelem Posts: 1
    AFTER A MONTH OF RESEARCH, COMPARISONS, AND AGONY, I FINALLY DECIDED ON THE 02 MOUNTAINEER. I TEST DROVE THE ACURA, FORD EXPLORER AND 01 MITSUBISHI MONTERO. I WAS LOOKING FOR A V-6 WITH THE THIRD ROW SEAT SO THE DURANGO WAS OUT. I FOUND AS PWASH WROTE, YOU DEFINITELY GET MORE FOR YOUR MONEY OVERALL AND ESPECIALLY WHEN COMPARED TO THE HIGHER LEVEL EXPLORER. THE PROBLEM IS, THE EXPLORERS AND MOUNTAINEERS ARE LIMITED IN STOCK AND UNLESS YOU HAVE THE LUXURY OF TIME TO WAIT FOR ONE TO BE ORDERED, YOU MAY HAVE A TOUGH TIME AS I DID FINDING ONE THATS NOT FULLY LOADED (MOST ARE COMING IN WITH MOON ROOF, 6CD CHANGER, AND SIDE CURTAIN AIR BAGS) FEATURES WHICH I Didn't REALLY WANT. THANKS TO THE WEB, I WAS PRETTY WELL PREPARED AND DEFINITELY HAD MORE INFORMATION THAN MOST OF THE SALES PEOPLE I DEALT WITH. THE DEALER I ENDED UP GETTING IT FROM JERKED ME AROUND A BIT TRYING SO HARD TO "LOCATE" THE VEHICLE FOR ME. WHEN I EXPLAINED HOW HE DINT EVEN HAVE TO SELL ME THE CAR JUST ARRANGE FOR ME TO PURCHASE IT HE QUIETED DOWN. I THINK I GOT A DECENT PRICE ANYWAY. HOPEFULLY I WONT REGRET MY CHOICE!
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    Ford said several months ago that it would be an option mid year on the 2002 Explorer, but they did not repeat that in latest press release on pricing. Don't know if that means delay or just not high enough priority to make the release.
  • tractiontraction Posts: 141
    I ran across this article on the web. Ford already has 100,000 orders for the Explorer, not sure how many orders for the Mountaineer.


    http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=7882

  • tractiontraction Posts: 141
    Here is what the Ford web site says for the availability of the AdvanceTrac system.....

    "New AdvanceTrac; interactive vehicle dynamics system - the first application on a truck or SUV - combines the benefits of traction control and electronic stability (yaw) control (available later in 2001)"
  • tractiontraction Posts: 141
    here is the link to the Ford web site that talks about the safety equipment


    http://media.ford.com/products/presskit_display.cfm?vehicle_id=239&press_subsection_id=424

  • Thanks so much for all the information on the introduction of the stablity control option..
    I m gonna wait for it and am so happy that it is expected this year...I ve decided on a Mountaineer with all the options except rear AC ( i want the moonroof)..I m not so keen on the lack of 4wd low and the funky aluminum plastic..but other than that..i think the vehicle is terrific
    The mountaineer seems to be priced better than the Explorer Limited and Eddie Bauer.
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