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Ford Explorer Mercury Mountaineer 2005 and earlier

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  • fleetwoodsimcafleetwoodsimca Posts: 1,518
    The problem with the "silly" GM program is that they achieve an obligatory position on the buyer at the subconscious level. A very large number of people are going to buy, due to that. If you take it home over night, you have basically already bought the vehicle.
  • fleetwoodsimcafleetwoodsimca Posts: 1,518
    A lot of marriages start this way, too. >:o]
  • navigator3740navigator3740 Posts: 279
    swschrad: My 97 & 98 didn't thump, and they had sunroofs, and your 2000 is the same. They didn't have the problem. My 2002 does, as does my new Navigator. It's a new problem..... There has to be a way to engineer it out. But honestly, I just crack the rear power vent windows, and the problem goes away, it's not the end of my happy day.....
  • geoffdgtigeoffdgti Posts: 83
    I recently purchased a 2003 mountaineer luxury SUV with a moon roof. My 5 yr old daughter rides in the middle seat and loves to roll down "her window".

    Crack one of the rear windows and the problem goes away.
  • swschradswschrad Posts: 2,171
    used to be, way back when men were men and the 60s were in full swing, if the dealer knew you, you could take just about anything home overnight and see how it fit. yes, you had to sign a rental contract, but there wasn't the "buy it, if you don't like it, return it in 3 days or 100 miles and we take it back" issue. I am advised there are even some dealers who won't kill a contract and take a car back even if you die and fall out of the door in the "new owners suite" transfer room.

    even if it's just a sales leader, it's a good idea if somebody is making a radical change of vehicle, say from pickup to BMW, or from an old econobox to a Navigator.
  • fleetwoodsimcafleetwoodsimca Posts: 1,518
    Just try and return it the second day! See where that gets yuh! Ha! »:o[
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    What a great segway to my (off the main topic) story! Way back in the 90's, swschrad, I bought a used Continental, my first venture into the Lincoln/Mercury world from a local dealer. 3 days later, it wouldn't start in my garage. The next morning, I took it back and asked for my old car back, expecting to get laughed out of the showroom. To my amazement, the owner of the dealership said ok! I drove out of there with my old car, all detailed and serviced, and a check for my money back!!! I was so grateful, that 3 months later, I went back and bought a NEW Continental, and have bought cars from him ever since, for business and personal use. He's dead now, and so this throwback dealership to the 60's may die too. But for now, they still treat me like their best customer. It's a great feeling. If other dealers and car companies only realized, that giving me my money back with no hassle one time, sold me 9 new cars since then, and brought them countless sales from my referrals. It was the best check he ever wrote.
  • swschradswschrad Posts: 2,171
    the best gimmick in the world... because it isn't one ;)

    I sure remember about every time I got plucked as a sucker... but I try and make a point of remembering who takes care of me as a customer, too.

    I have heard many stories about the Lincoln dealer taking the extra step. it's like an old college friend said once, in the 70s: olds had the best price/luxury point in GM. you got your best service if the dealer was an olds/caddy dealer, and the worst if he was olds/chevy.

    another way to say it: the seller of luxury goods has to insure customer satisfaction, because he has to live on selling fewer items for higher cost. I got a great repair on an old base Rolex and have had some scuzzy ones on lesser mechanical watches because of the Expectation Of The Customer factor as believed by everybody at the store.
  • fleetwoodsimcafleetwoodsimca Posts: 1,518
    I buy watches that keep "perfect" time and cost me so little that I rarely bother to buy a new battery-- I replace the watch. These surely are not objects of desire for status seekers! They just keep the time, and mine also double as calculators, as well.
    Now, my Mountaineer? That's another story. (:o]
  • swschradswschrad Posts: 2,171
    a stopped clock is accurate twice a day, all others continually get worse and worse.

    I don't like replacing the dinky little batteries because I have to remove the microscopic little clip screws to do it, and being cursed with bifocals, it's a fun time for all.... not. plus, manuals have that certain charm and savoir-faire that says as you go by, "throwback. fogey. don't talk to HIM about The Matrix!"

    and at times, that's very nice :0
  • brast69brast69 Posts: 17
    I purchased a 2003...Same noice, All I do is crack the moonroof, crack the front windows and open the front vents, seems like alot to do for a noise but it seems to work
  • brast69brast69 Posts: 17
    Has anyone taken the 03 Mountaineer on the beach yet, how is it on the beach as opposed to a true 4 by 4. A friend of mine told me ALL WHEEL DRIVE is not good on the beach and I will get stuck.Is this true?
  • heintz1heintz1 Posts: 52
    I haven't had my 2002, V8, 4WD XLT on any beach yet, but at any rate, my hunch is that if one ever needs serious low-end "crawler" or "gut-pulling" 4WD torque, the AWD version might not be the best choice. At any rate, if you get into deep, dry sand, you'll likely need to let lots of air out of the tires in order to proceed, and once you're out, you'll need an air compressor (or similar) to re-inflate the tires in order to drive on hard roads again.
  • fleetwoodsimcafleetwoodsimca Posts: 1,518
    Beaches and sandy creek bottoms eat 4WD vehicles for lunch. Been there and done that from Arizona to Alaska-- Never in a Mountaineer or Explorer, though. Be careful to never back up in your own tracks, and don't get impatient if you start churning and moving slowly. It would be smart to buy a winch! >:o]
  • 1badsidekick1badsidekick Posts: 135
    Hi all, you may remember me from posting in the past. I'm finally able to afford a new vehicle, and I've picked out an orange '99 Explorer XLS. I'm not sure which 4.0 engine it is, the SOHC or the other...but it has 31,700 miles, a/t, power windows, locks, mirrors, cd player, cruise, tilt, fog lights, step bars, tow package, and tinted windows. They have it priced $13,900, and told me they would trade me out of my '98 Sidekick Sport for $8500. A new kick was added tonight, when my father offered to add my mom's current car, a '93 Bonneville SSEi to trade in as well. I'm looking to probably end up with a difference of $4,000-$5,000. I checked the car over, and the only thing I found wrong was the cruise control unit on the right side of the wheel (resume, set/accel, coast) was loose from the wheel, but would be fixed. Do you think this is a good deal? Any tips, anything I should look for in particular? I did notice vibration when I accelerated coming through the floor and pedal. Is that common? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!
  • fleetwoodsimcafleetwoodsimca Posts: 1,518
    I don't recall orange being a stock color, and I wonder if this vehicle has been repainted. If it has, then why? Was it wrecked and repaired? The 4 liter 6 cylinder Ford engines I have owned have run very smoothly. Notable vibration upon acceleration would make me very uneasy about an Explorer. Perhaps this vehicle has been run quite hard. I would not want to face the repair of the cruise control. You might want to be VERY careful-- Why not look some more?
  • 1badsidekick1badsidekick Posts: 135
    It's actually a reddish orange sort of color, and I've seen several in this color. I'm going to inquite about the vibration, but the car only has 31,700 miles on it, but they could have been hard miles. The dealer will fix the cruise control with no problem, so they said. Loose or not, it does work with no problems. I found a better price on it, they had the same vehicle listed on autotrader.com for "a special internet price", $12,650. We'll see how that goes. I'll keep you posted!
  • fleetwoodsimcafleetwoodsimca Posts: 1,518
    That's good that you "caught" them offering a better price! Bargain hard, and make them fix the cruise control before you buy, not after-- hint hint.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    and I would have that vibration identified too, because I've had a 94, 97, 98 & 02, and one of my employees had a 99, and we never detected such a phenomenon. At least, not pronounced. Low mileage can be a good thing, but in rare cases, can also mean the damn thing was always in the shop or couldn't be trusted out of town. Like fleetwood said, I can't identify this color either in my memory. I would do a CARFAX to check for a wreck & damage, and take it to a Ford mechanic you can trust for an opinion on the vibration. That's my biggest concern. These are really solid cars, this one worries me from what you've said.
  • heintz1heintz1 Posts: 52
    I've seen many older Explorers in a metallic rust-orange sort of color, and that's probably what's being referred to here.
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