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Ford Explorer Mercury Mountaineer 2005 and earlier

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  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I have an 04 Mountaineer with the V-8 and AWD. We get 15.7 in town and about 18 on the road at 80MPH. And, we're not unhappy with that at all. Love the engine, much better than the V-6 we had in the last one. Worth the 1 or 2 extra MPH less we get with the 8 cylinder, all day long.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,622
    so what can we do to help fsv?
    i have an '02 v8/3.73 rear gear.
    can get 18-20 mpg on the highway.
    fsv, what kind of tires do you have?
    do you check the pressures?
    what are your rpm's at 60, 70, 80?
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    and about 18 on the road at 80MPH.

    Did you know that air drag is almost 80% greater at 80 mph than it is at 60 mph? That's not to say that aerodynamics is anything to write home about for a boxy vehicle even at 60 mph. You might consider a more leisurely pace and you get to enjoy the scenery a bit more as a bonus! That's just my tuppence! :-)

    tidester, host
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    (tidester, your PH-D is showing again...)

    Yeah, but the boredom-drag is about 100% greater at 60mph than it is at slightly above the legal speed limit on roads I've seen 1000 times, especially in the Arizona desert.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    ...especially in the Arizona desert.

    Been there, done that! Tucson to Scottsdale is pretty boring even on the first trip but Tucson to Nogales - zzzzzz!

    tidester, host

    Note to self: Drop the tech stuff! ;-)
  • keeferbkeeferb Posts: 81
    I found an 04 XLT V8 with the exact options I've been looking for...except the tow pkg. Seem like every other V8 I've looked at had it. I don't do a lot of towing, but I do need a class III 2" receiver for the few times I do. Can I add this myself? I thought I read somewhere that the standard class II wasn't removeable.

    Thanks.
  • GutsyGutsy Posts: 13
    I purchased a new 2004 Luxury Mountaineer with 20 miles on it a few weeks ago (got it for $11,000 off the sticker price with discounts, rebates and more) and I'm very pleased with it.

    At first the mileage was not that great, hovering at around 15 mpg with mixed city and highway driving during the first 700 miles. Yesterday we drove 140 miles from New Jersey to Baltamore MD (average speed of 65 MPH Highway miles) with 4 adults and one 12 year old and got an average of 19 mpg. On the way back to NJ (we now had 2 adults and one 12 year old) ... I reset the mileage calculator on the dash "upon entering the highway" (instead from the city point of origin) and achieved 22.9 PER GALLON at 65 MPH! Not bad at all! It was actually nice driving the speed limit and enjoying the ride while our son watched DVD's in the back too. My wife commented on the way down and back how nice it drove and comfortable it was and I couldn't argue with that!
    Hope this helps!
  • heather2heather2 Posts: 1
    hello i realize this question has nothing to do with your post however i can't seem to figure this forum out. i am looking for pictures of the new 2006 ford explorer. i seen a picture once and now i can't find it again. the new explorer has a new front end and the inside looks like the F150. can anyone help me find these pictures again. thanks
    heather
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    Heather,

    I'm not finding any pics of the '06 model but you can find current ('05) pics using the drop down menus at top of this page (over on the right) where is says "Go to" (select make and select model).

    tidester, host
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    Officially, no 2006 Explorer pictures have been released yet since the vehicle hasn't made it's official debut, although wait a few weeks.

    The '06 Mountaineer does have pics, since it was released in the Chicago auto show.
  • momx3momx3 Posts: 13
    I'm considering purchasing a '97 Mountaineer. Any input, suggestions, etc would be greatly appreciated. Also, anecdotes, good and bad of reliability, etc. Thanks a bunch!
  • Gutsy,
    That's great mileage! Is your truck AWD? Can you break down the deal too, as far as the 11K off sticker goes? I am shopping and would like to see how you did that.

    Thanks
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    My only recommendation would be, go with the V8. It's more reliable over the 4.0L V6 unit.

    Other tidbits...Grey interior hides dirt better. Some with leather interior, you will see cracks on the leather if that's an issue. The Beige upper trim on the doors (soft material) seems to discolor a bit as it ages, turns more caramely from some examples I have seen. But this isn't a serious issue either.

    You could try the Explorer forum for problems/solutions, and see what other people's take have been. Of course, ALL you will hear is mostly negative thoughts because thats the purpose of that forum, so don't be disheartened by it.
  • momx3momx3 Posts: 13
    thanks a bunch! Am a bit surprised with the advice on the V8. I have to admit I was thinking the V6, strictly for fuel economy purposes. (And I won't be disheartened by the negativity, I think the Mountaineer is a great value and great to look at!)
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    Actually, the V6 will spend just as much as the V8 since it has to work that much harder to get up to speed. And that 4.0L V6 isn't the most fuel efficient variety either. It's growing a bit crude with newer engines from other automaker's and it's days are numbered.
  • grepagrepa Posts: 3
    I've purchased a 1997 Mountaineer in December with 95,000 miles and couldn't be happier with it. In 4 months I have already put 7,000 miles on it driving through winter conditions in the mountains of SW Virginia, and have been very impressed with the engineering and capabilities of this well balanced, well powered, mid sized SUV.

    My Mountaineer is the AWD 5L V-8, with 3.73 limited slip differential. It has all the options, including the moon roof, leather seats, JBL stereo with CD changer, tow package, keyless entry, etc. The interior is gray with the exterior a nice glossy black.

    It looks current even when compared with today's vehicles, even though it is now 8 years old. I've received several comments on it!

    My research had shown this vehicle year to be reliable. I always look at the history behind the vehicle, how well its been maintained, how it looks under the vehicle and in the engine compartment, and how it drives and behaves.

    My driving route has taken me on treacherous mountainous roads, with snow up to 8 inches, icy conditions, with fog and through rain, and snowdrifts. The AWD and the ABS brake system have proven to work exceptionally well, and it took me several weeks to learn what this vehicle will do that other 2 WD and pickups could not under the same weather conditions. It will do more than I expected; but remember, you can't violate or overcome the laws of physics -- its easy to get too confident with this vehicle if you're not careful!

    Check the vehicle out, and if it checks out, have fun! Hope this helps some.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I had a 97 Mountaineer. Only one thing to expect - if it's the v-8, and I think they all were, they all had a leaky exhaust manifold problem. If that's been fixed, you're past that problem. They were great trucks, very dependable, great engines, transmissions, drive trains. No weaknesses that I know of.
  • momx3momx3 Posts: 13
    wow! the mount seems to be a fav. I have yo admit so far it's my favorite. One question nvbanker.. how will I know if that leaky exhaust manifold has been fixed?
  • momx3momx3 Posts: 13
    SOME? you're review should be on edmunds.com. Thanks for such thoroughness.... although I won't be worrying so much about the traction and offroading capabilities too much... I hate snow hehehe
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    Before buying the vehicle, ask for an OASIS report. What that reports is all the TSB (technical service bullentins) and recalls that have been addressed/fix, as well as other minor issues that are/were addressed during the vehicles life.
  • atlgaxtatlgaxt Posts: 487
    I have a 2002 Mazda B4000 4x4 (Ranger Clone). Mazda boards are dead and I have not gotten a response on the Ranger board, so I am posting here. I have the same 4.0 SOHC V6 and 5 speed auto as the Explorer. After three years and 56,000 miles, the transmission is blown, needing over $2k in repairs. I have only towed twice (U-Haul trailers) and have not abused this vehicle. Has anyone else had such a problem with the 5 speed auto?

    Also, to be more on Explorer topic, just the other day I saw an Explorer where the guy had mounted a Class III trailer hitch under his bumper. I guess his vehicle came standard with the built-in Class II. I do not know the brand, but it looks like even if you cannot swap out the old Class II, you can find someone to mount a new Class III the old fashioned way.
  • Built-in class II plus an added class III- does that make it a class V? LOL
  • GutsyGutsy Posts: 13
    Elevator guy ... I wrote about this under prices paid and buying experiences, however I was off on the amount I saved. it was $10,316 saved! Sorry!

    The sticker was $38,815, -$4,500 rebate, -$4,816 dealer discount, -$500 Ford Credit, -$500 deducted from a coupon I got at the Mercury desk at the Philadelphia car show this weekend. Saved $10,316 total ... got it for $28,499 + tax, tags & registration.

    Hope this helps!
  • whatsachevywhatsachevy Posts: 136
    '03 NBX V-8 Auto LS 4X4 - While changing the oil, noticed the coolant level was about 2 inches below the cold fill range on the coolant reservoir. Didn't see any signs of water/anti-freeze in the used oil. Went to top it off and noticed this thick white/light brown residue built up in the reservoir bottle. I didn't want to circulate this crud into the cooling system so I didn't top it off and decided to take it into the dealer. Guess what? This is normal for all Ford vehicles to have this build up in the cooling system. Also, two inches below the stamped cold fill range on the reservoir bottle is supposedly also normal. Has anyone else noticed this build up in the coolant reservoir? I only have 15K on this vehicle and find it hard to believe that this is normal. My '01 Chevy truck with 45K is as clear as the day I got it.
  • momx3momx3 Posts: 13
    thanks again night.. or is that knight?
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Leaky exhaust manifolds will go tick tick tick on acceleration, and it's easily heard in the cabin, as well as outside. You can't miss it. If you don't hear anything, you're just fine.
  • merc2002merc2002 Posts: 17
    55mph>20-22mpg
    70mph>17-18mpg
    i only have a class 2 hitch and i run 44psi in my oem tires...i run Mobil 1 and fuel injector cleaner every other tankful..i don't drive like a granny but not like an idiot either..stock plugs and wires aix air filter...i haven't changed the fuel filter yet but was wondering when i should..when do i change my plugs and wires and should i buy the oem plugs and wires or go aftermarket?...i have 50k on it right now so is it a good time to look at something else?thansk for any help..
  • I bought a 1997 Ford Explorer 5.0 V8 in 2002. It is mechanically very similar or the same as the MM. It is a superb vehicle, reliable and a joy to drive! If you do your research carefully, you will find out the V6 engine and the 5 Speed Automatic transmission are just asking for trouble. The V6 has a rediculous timing chain design, with one in the front of the engine and one in the back of the engine, and they cause noise and problems. To replace the rear timing chain, the engine has to be pulled out. Very Expensive if you have to pay for it out of your pocket. The 5 speed transmission is no better. Hopefully they will discontinue the V6 and the 5 speed transmission behind it soon.
    The 5.0 L V8 Engine however, is a very reliable, time proven, race proven engine that has been around for a long time. It is the old pushrod design, not quite as powerful as the newer 4.6L OHC V8, but still very reliable and trouble free. The 4R70W 4 speed overdrive transmission behind it is equally as competent, a very reliable, time proven, race proven transmission. GO with the reliable V8 and you get the strong reliable transmission with it.
    I just bought a 2000 Ford Explorer with 5.0 V8 and the 4R70W transmission, and it is wonderful!
    These vehicles will easily run way past 200,000 miles with good care. Recommend using nothing but Full Synthetic motor oil and Synthetic Oil Filter on the engine, changing Synthetic oil and Synthetic filter every 7,000 to 7,500 miles. Use Full Synthetic Rear axle lube. Use Full Synthetic Chasis Grease. Keep all suspension bushings, door hinges, and window channels lubed with spray lube WD40 and Spray White Grease (very light on the grease around the windows, do not make a mess).
    Good Luck
    E.D.
  • Merc2002.
    That's good mileage. What are the details of your truck (model, engine, 4WD, etc.)?

    Thanks
  • garymgarym Posts: 1
    Steve, I am bringing my 04 Mountaineer (20,000mi)to the dealership tomorrow for the same problems you describe above. I experience the rough engagement to reverse even when going from "Park" to reverse. It has to be at running temperature as well. My Mountaineer is a V6 with AWD that Ford issued a service bulletin recall for a few months back (after I had started experiencing the BOOM engagement to reverse and jerky shifting from 1st to 2nd gears) in which all they did was pour an additive into the transmission fluid. My problem did not get better at all, matter of fact, I think it got worse. I would like the article you refer to above if possible as I don't think my dealership wants to do anything which will cost much money before they exhaust the cheap fix methods. Sounds like I need to ask for a new shift solenoid. I am slightly suspect of the original transmission fluid as well given the additive they put in. Perhaps I should ask for a fresh fill of whatever Ford is using today in their new units as I am told it is in fact different.
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