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Ford Explorer Mercury Mountaineer 2005 and earlier



  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    You may be correct, gregb, but you are drawing a reasonable conclusion from deduction - and who knows, Mercon V may be "beyond synthetic". I mean, maybe it's made from the most expensive liquid on earth.......bottled water!
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,447
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Then there's Starbucks coffee...... NOBODY could afford to fill a transmission with that!
  • jrc346jrc346 Posts: 337
    Could be a new blend. How does Metallic sound ;-)
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Uh, I'll have a double Mercon Synthetic blend please in a go cup.
  • cubescubes Posts: 29
    Well, according to some links thru google, it appears that Mercon V is a high quality synthetic blend. No mention on when it will be available at your favorite coffee shop.
  • my 2002 MM's abs light went on early in the morning. it stayed lit during my morning commute and didn't showed up back into my commute late in the afternoon. Searching at the ABS problems in this forum, it seems that Ford still is contracting with cheapo suppliers. Mine is now at 18K others experiencing similar problems. BTW does the manufacturer's warranty doesn't cover the rental car or is it the dealer's goodwill to provide a loaner car? the ford dealer says that it's not covered by the warranty (they don't have loaner cars)..
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I've had 3 Mountaineers and one Explorer. The ABS light came on once in the Explorer at about 114,000 miles. Never in the 3 Mountaineers.
    My dealer has loaners too. It depends on where you go. Some of them "get" the value of offering loaners, some don't unfortunately.
  • gregb5gregb5 Posts: 82
    Not to beat the Mercon thing to death, but I'm betting that the links you found were for Mercon V compatible fluids from makers other than Ford (Motorcraft). I, too, found those while searching for information.
    For what it's worth, my dealer has a poster in their waiting area that says that the trans fluid should be changed at 45K intervals. That may be the dealer's recommendation, though.
  • cubescubes Posts: 29
    I bet you might be right, since I didn't come across a Ford link related to Mercon V. Regarding scheduled changes, I think I remember seeing in the Mountaineer manual that it calls for 60K. I'm not that concerned about the miles since our Merc lease will be done in November with around 40K on the clock.
  • fsvfsv Posts: 196
    I have a question to Merqury Montaneer/Ford Explorer owners: I am looking at various vehicles now, one of them being Merqury Montaneer, which could be had now under Red Carpet Purchase (lease in reality) option - for #320 a month (taxes & $800 prior to car interception) for 48 month I can get 15,000 miles a yesr, V6, regular stereo, sunroof, leather seating, AWD, running boards, (+something else). Is it a good price, and, will the car last 60,000 miles without tranny or engine or any other major part failure? Of course, every car is different (my Accord went through 3 tranny's withing first 8 months of it's life), but as the rule of the thumb?
  • swschradswschrad Posts: 2,171
    running gear is really pretty good among most manufacturers. exploders/mounties are pretty solid vehicles and you only have occasional limited populations of interesting vehicles caused by funny parts.

    for a full escape from issues, you would also want to roll a manufacturer's extended warranty into any vehicle's lease plan. then all you have to worry about are the fabled and frequent stories about overmileage, bumps and scratches, and crud ground into the carpets and seatbacks by the neighbor kids by accident. your accord experience should remind everybody that EVERYBODY can get a run of cruddy parts or a solid team effort from a lazy engineer on occasion.

    I've got almost 50K on my exploder, no issues at all. the battery went about when you expect it to, and I might have a fuel regulator or gas pump issue beginning to appear... or it might be a cheap relay before the fuel pump, haven't ID'd the problem yet.

    I'm not sold on car leases for individuals at all, but I readily agree lots of folks like 'em.

    I think you'll be fine in the mountie. just do the regular maintenance and look at anything that seems odd, like any good vehicle, and it should be a nice ride and a nice experience.

    oh, that regular stereo. wimpy like all the rest. get the Mach, you'll like it. even more if you get the optional multi-disk with it. good tunes make a good drive better.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    1 Explorer and 3 Mountaineers so far - I think they're the perfect vehicle for me. My explorer has 120,000 tough miles on it, no major repairs yet.
  • fsvfsv Posts: 196
    Is V6 as bad as they say in reviews and does the rear hatch window actually explodes?
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    No the hatch doesn't explode, this was a pre-production event that occured on the first few, years ago when it was launched.

    The V6 is reliable, and not a cause for concern. Although you could get the same gas mileage and better performance from the V8 over the V6.
  • fsvfsv Posts: 196
    They don't want to lease out to me V8 for the same money as V6, understandably. IT's just all mag's are saying V6 is so underpowered....
  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,591
    Well, I traded a 97 Explorer Limited 5.0 V8/AWD for a 2004 Explorer XLS Sport V6/Control Trac 4WD, I haven't been disappointed at all.

    I've had the 04 3 weeks today and have put over 1700 miles on it. Other than a cooling system hiccup at -55 its been flawless. I find the V6 to be very pleasant and it has tons of power. Its a smaller engine than my prev Explorer but is much more refined and has a lot more power.

    So far I've averaged 16 mpg, but that's mixed driving and idling, the truck also has snow tires on it which hurt the gas mileage too.

    Drive them both and buy what you like, both are good engines and the V6 is certainly not lacking in power or reliability.

    BTW, these new Explorers are AMAZING in the deep snow, very, very impressive.
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    "They don't want to lease out to me V8 for the same money as V6, understandably. IT's just all mag's are saying V6 is so underpowered.."

    Screw the rags, one month they love the vehicle, next one they kill it... All biased trash to begin with. Just test out both versions yourself and see what you prefer best. The V6 transmission is programmed to work at the heart of the band majority of the time so it's rare you will require anything more. And a higher axle ratio might help a bit as well on initial acceleration if need be.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I've had 2 V8 Mountaineers, and 1 V6 Explorer and 1 V6 Mountaineer. I agree with ANT, that the V8 will give you about the same economy, and makes the truck MUCH more fun to drive and satisfying. BUT, if the V6 was patently unreliable and underpowered, why is the Explorer the best selling SUV in the country ever since it came out? The 6 is very adequate and tough as nails generally. My 94 has 120,000 miles on it, and passes smog like a brand new one. Again, I would get the V8 if I could, but the 6 is just fine.
  • fsvfsv Posts: 196
    Testdrove a Mountaineer today - it's much better than I expected, honestly - a while ago I drove the old Explorer - one from 90th - and there is no comparison between these two. The only thing - MM swinged out it's rear when driving on icy road. Now waiting for the "order" from my wife, what we gonna get - Mountaineer or Isuzu Ascender...
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