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2014 Mercedes-Benz E-Class Lease Questions

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  • ghstudioghstudio Posts: 931
    edited June 5

    I'd go to your local dealer, ask them for the MSRP with maintenance for 5 years included (if mercedes offers it...if not, include the maximum MERCEDES maintenance offered), ask for their discounted price (total capitalized cost and ask if their administrative fee is included or not, ask the money factor they will use with you selecting maximum multiple security deposits and autopay, ask them for the residual value or % and then, see what their monthly lease price is. Once we establish the correct numbers, you will bargain on the discount...the rest is pretty much fixed. No money up front...just the first month's payment and any legally required fees (registration,...). Roll everything else into the lease. They will undoubtably quote you something with money down up front or try to give you a price without any of the detail....tell them you don't want to pay anything up front...period and you want all the detail.

    Generally speaking, leasing for 20K miles is not a good financial decision unless you have business reasons to lease.

    Note: the reason to add Mercedes maintenance is that if the residual is 60% and the MSRP of the maintenance is $2000, you only pay 40% of that over the period of the lease.....or $800. If you pick anyone elses maintenance, you pay 100% of the MSRP over the life of the lease.

    Don't go to NY state for the car....for whatever reason, they don't allow multiple security deposits;

  • tmascotmasco Posts: 4

    "ghstudio" thanks for the reply - I have a couple of questions,

    • Are you using 5 years instead of 3 years for maintenance because of the high milage (service intervals)?

    • Does the maintenance program cover the parts/materials needed for the service (brake pads, rotors, filters, oil ...)?

    • Why is leasing for 20k miles a bad idea - my situation is our 10 year old son plays hockey and has now joined a team that travels extensively. As a result I will be driving approx 500. miles each week for 7 months out of the year. I am open to any suggestions on how I should obtain this vehicle.

    • I was hoping someone could take my numbers and break them down into a lease payment using MSB current pricing factors for this type of car. I realize some assumptions would have to be made for the up front costs (guestamate) or leave them out completely since they are fixed costs. That way I can contact the various dealers and tell them what I am looking for in a deal. Unfortunately the dealers in this neck of the woods feel they can charge top dollar and they usually get it. That is why I am willing to travel out of state. For example my current lease (due the end of this month) is on a Range Rover Sport and found a dealer in Rhode Island that would do the deal.

    • I am looking for any suggestions from anyone on dealers who like to give great deals (volume), that way I can contact them first in hopes of making a great deal with the least amount of pain.

    I think I saw on an earlier post that MB charges .20/mile should the milage exceed the allotted amount - if the excess milage is built into the lease would the extra cost be calculated the same way the maintenance is calculated (based on residual - lower amount paid).

    Sorry for the long message I am trying to get my ducks in order before I begin my quest.

    By the way I did visit the local dealer for a test drive and he told me he would not give me any pricing unless I was ready to make a deal (deposit) right then and there. Unfortunately most people around here don't challenge the dealers on pricing Their motto is "If you have to ask then you can't afford it"

    Thanks for the help!!!!

  • rravinrravin Posts: 27

    kyfdx, What is the mf and residual% for the 2014 E350 for 36mo/15k. Tier 1 credit. Live in Los Angeles. Any incentives? Thanks, rravinmd

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,035

    @rravin said: kyfdx, What is the mf and residual% for the 2014 E350 for 36mo/15k. Tier 1 credit. Live in Los Angeles. Any incentives? Thanks, rravinmd

    .00136 MF and 57% residual. They have a 27 month special lease with residual of 65%.

    I don't have the incentives, but you can search for them using the Car Research tab at the top of the page. Evidently, there are hefty incentives, given the selling prices that our other members are reporting (read the last 100 messages or so, in this discussion)

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  • leasermannleasermann Posts: 6
    Hey guys looking for residual and money factor on 2014e63 amg s model AWD for June. Looking for 27/36/39 10k year numbers. Any special incentives on these units? Someone said that one pay rate drops it down to .0008 at the dealership for 36month can anyone confirm?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 3,810

    @leasermann said: Hey guys looking for residual and money factor on 2014e63 amg s model AWD for June. Looking for 27/36/39 10k year numbers. Any special incentives on these units? Someone said that one pay rate drops it down to .0008 at the dealership for 36month can anyone confirm?

    Standard MF (.00195-.00225) and 56% for 36/10. There are no 27 or 39 month numbers.

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  • ghstudioghstudio Posts: 931

    Tmasco..yes 5 years to cover the 60k miles. If you lease, you have to have all the services done.

    Don't know what's included in the longer warrantee services. The 2 year covers oil, filters,etc.

    I think on high mileage driving, you have more opportunity to sell/trade the car earlier if you see a deal. Likely you will be able to sell the car for the same or more than the residual. I did 20-25k a year on cars driving from ct to vt for skiing and I bought jeeps. I managed to trade every one within 3 years on a new jeep for almost bargain prices. Mb wagons are not in hot demand which will effect resale. Make that a Lexus rx350 and you now have an easy resale car. My opinion. If it had to be a mb, I'd get the ml350 for the same reason.

  • Bill3223Bill3223 Posts: 1
    edited June 8

    I am looking to lease a E350 4Matic sport sedan in the Long Island/Westchester area of New York, and the best offer I have gotten so far is about 8k off MSRP with details below. I am new at this and not sure if its a good deal or not, but looks like many of the more experienced members here have gotten so much more off the MSRP and better deals.

    Is this a good deal for NY region or is there more room for negotiation...can anyone recommend a good dealership to work with. Any help and guidance would be greatly appreciated....thanks

    MSRP: $61,910

    Selling Price: $53,880

    Money Factor w/ auto pay: 0.00120

    Residual Value with 12K - 67%

    27 month lease: is $689.71 with first month and DMV upfront.

    8.75% NY sales tax, Maintenance for 20K, and Acq fee included in monthly payment.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 3,810

    @Bill3223 said: I am looking to lease a E350 4Matic sport sedan in the Long Island/Westchester area of New York, and the best offer I have gotten so far is about 8k off MSRP with details below. I am new at this and not sure if its a good deal or not, but looks like many of the more experienced members here have gotten so much more off the MSRP and better deals.

    Is this a good deal for NY region or is there more room for negotiation...can anyone recommend a good dealership to work with. Any help and guidance would be greatly appreciated....thanks

    MSRP: $61,910

    Selling Price: $53,880

    Money Factor w/ auto pay: 0.00120

    Residual Value with 12K - 67%

    27 month lease: is $689.71 with first month and DMV upfront.

    8.75% NY sales tax, Maintenance for 20K, and Acq fee included in monthly payment.

    I can confirm the MF and residual. Can't comment on the selling price nor recommend a local dealer. Check back through the last few pages of posts to see what dealers other members are using.

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  • meldowmeldow Posts: 5

    for those of you getting 8-12k off msrp, are those typically cars on the lot or custom orders?

    im hoping to place an order for a fairly loaded e350 coupe (msrp ~62-63k) in the next couple of weeks. would it be reasonable for me to shoot for 8k off? 10k off? ideally i'd like to lease the vehicle (36 mo) for under 650/month with no money down other than the first month's payments and legally required fees, and maintenance included

    if anyone could recommend me dealers/people they've had a good experience with in southern california, i'd greatly appreciate it!

  • leasermannleasermann Posts: 6

    Looking for Lease Rates and residual on a 2014 E550 AWD. Need 36month 10k/12k and 27month 10k/12k

    Autopay on both.

    Thanks!

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,035

    @leasermann said: Looking for Lease Rates and residual on a 2014 E550 AWD. Need 36month 10k/12k and 27month 10k/12k

    Autopay on both.

    Thanks!

    Standard money factor and 61% residual for 36mo, 12K/yr. Add 1% for 10K/yr.

    No 27 month specials on this model.

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  • meldowmeldow Posts: 5
    edited June 11

    Looking for the money factor/residual for the following:

    E350 Sedan 12k/15k - 27mo E350 Sedan 12k/15k - 36mo

    E350 Coupe 12k/15k - 27mo E350 Coupe 12k/15k - 36mo

    Still debating between the coupe and the sedan, also curious to see what the difference in my monthly would be between the 27 and 36 durations.

    Does anyone know how soon dealers are accepting order for the E400? Would it be possible to have one custom ordered and delivered by Oct 1?

    Thanks in advance!

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 3,810

    @meldow said: Looking for the money factor/residual for the following:

    E350 Sedan 12k/15k - 27mo

    .00136 and 67% / 65%

    E350 Sedan 12k/15k - 36mo

    .00136 and 59% / 57%

    E350 Coupe 12k/15k - 27mo

    No 27 month programs for the E350 Coupe

    E350 Coupe 12k/15k - 36mo

    .00128 and 58% / 56%

    Still debating between the coupe and the sedan, also curious to see what the difference in my monthly would be between the 27 and 36 durations.

    Does anyone know how soon dealers are accepting order for the E400? Would it be possible to have one custom ordered and delivered by Oct 1?

    Thanks in advance!

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  • mmmogammmoga Posts: 3
    edited June 12

    I'm interested in E550 Sedan, around what price I can expect? 8K off MSRP 73k is possible? I don't see that many inventory at E550 especially at sedan version...

    @leasermann said: Looking for Lease Rates and residual on a 2014 E550 AWD. Need 36month 10k/12k and 27month 10k/12k

    Autopay on both.

    Thanks!

  • car_enthuzedcar_enthuzed Posts: 15

    @ghstudio said: If you are trying to lease a car which only has the "standard" money factor, then it's time to use multiple security deposits to reduce that money factor.

    To @ghstudio's point, anyone know if you can use MSDs with MBFS super tier money factor rate?

  • car_enthuzedcar_enthuzed Posts: 15

    @ghstudio said: If you are trying to lease a car which only has the "standard" money factor, then it's time to use multiple security deposits to reduce that money factor.

    To @ghstudio's point, anyone know if you can use MSDs with MBFS super tier money factor rate?

  • meldowmeldow Posts: 5

    Quick question regarding leasing a custom ordered car - if I place an order for a car this month, but it doesn't arrive until October, could I negotiate/lock in a deal based on the current money factor/residual?

  • ghstudioghstudio Posts: 931

    generally, no....the rate is set when you actually lease the car.

  • mmmogammmoga Posts: 3
    edited June 13

    hi everyone i got offer for E550 from dealer that i can use 10 security deposit to get the rate from 0.00220 to 0.0015 with autopay, is that reasonable? around 8K security deposit in total ... and i was told the 0.00126 is not possible the best rate is 0.0016 even with MSD,0.0015 with auto pay.the reason is because I'm buying E550 not E350.

  • qball11qball11 Posts: 1
    edited June 13

    Hi Guys

    I'm Looking for the money factor/residual for an 2014 E350 RWD Sedan for 27 months at both 7.5K/10K and at 36 Months at both 7.5K and 10K (with Autopay in Southern California).

    Much appreciated!

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,035

    @mmmoga said: hi everyone i got offer for E550 from dealer that i can use 10 security deposit to get the rate from 0.00220 to 0.0015 with autopay, is that reasonable? around 8K security deposit in total ... and i was told the 0.00126 is not possible the best rate is 0.0016 even with MSD,0.0015 with auto pay.the reason is because I'm buying E550 not E350.

    That's right... you can't get the .00126 MF on the E550. So, Mercedes just gives a discount of .00005 for each SD? Still, probably worth it.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,035

    @qball11 said: Hi Guys

    I'm Looking for the money factor/residual for an 2014 E350 RWD Sedan for 27 months at both 7.5K/10K and at 36 Months at both 7.5K and 10K (with Autopay in Southern California).

    Much appreciated!

    .00126 MF (w/AutoPay) and 69%/68% residual for 27 months.. 61%/60% for 36 months.

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  • mmmogammmoga Posts: 3
    edited June 14

    really appreciated. this is my first time leasing~ hopefully can get the deal done this week. Normally the higher MSRP I should get more discount right? I don't know how much they should come down for each SD, they say the maximum i can go is 10 SD to get it 0.0015 with autopay. should I ask more?

    @kyfdx@Edmunds said: That's right... you can't get the .00126 MF on the E550. So, Mercedes just gives a discount of .00005 for each SD? Still, probably worth it.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,035

    I'm not sure what the discount is for each SD in Mercedes MSD program. If it is indeed .00005 for each SD, then you are as low as you can go, most likely.

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  • magpie12magpie12 Posts: 5

    Could you please give the current money factor and residual percentages for a 2014 e350 cabriolet sport package? We are looking for 3 years at 10k per year. Also, what are security deposits or other means of lowering fess? We will use autopay. Thanks.

  • appulsauceappulsauce Posts: 7

    Could you please tell me if I relieved a good offer here? Or, what do I need to ask for? This Is for a custom order e350c4. 65.5k msrp 59.6k sale price .00127 MF 59% rv 36 month 10k miles a year Sign and drive. Nothing due except first month payment at time of delivery. 741 per month including everything.

    Thanks.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,035

    @magpie12 said: Could you please give the current money factor and residual percentages for a 2014 e350 cabriolet sport package? We are looking for 3 years at 10k per year. Also, what are security deposits or other means of lowering fess? We will use autopay. Thanks.

    .00118 MF and 59% residual.

    I don't think you can use the MSD program with Mercedes with a subvented money factor. Only with the standard money factor. AutoPay should lower the MF to .00108

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,035

    @appulsauce said: Could you please tell me if I relieved a good offer here? Or, what do I need to ask for? This Is for a custom order e350c4. 65.5k msrp 59.6k sale price .00127 MF 59% rv 36 month 10k miles a year Sign and drive. Nothing due except first month payment at time of delivery. 741 per month including everything.

    Thanks.

    Those are all the base rates..and a low selling price, so the deal looks great. Their advertised sign and drive lease on $59K msrp E350C4 is $764/mo. for the same term... and, that doesn't include tax.... so, you are killing it..

    Sign up for AutoPay and they should offer you .00117.

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  • ghstudioghstudio Posts: 931

    @appulsauce said: Could you please tell me if I relieved a good offer here? Or, what do I need to ask for? This Is for a custom order e350c4. 65.5k msrp 59.6k sale price .00127 MF 59% rv 36 month 10k miles a year Sign and drive. Nothing due except first month payment at time of delivery. 741 per month including everything.

    Thanks.

    The lease cannot be written until they have a VIN for the car....so be careful that the price they quote today will be the price you will pay when the car arrives.

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