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2014 Audi A4 Lease Questions

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  • Hi Car Man, I'm working on a deal to purchase: 2014 A4 premium plus, Dakota gray, B&O, MMI plus nav, side assist, ash inlay. List is $45725. no trade. Am I out of line to offer $42500?

  • venezianvenezian Posts: 1
    edited January 12

    This is my offer, good? (So. Cal)

    A4 Premium plus w/ navi, rubber mats, mud guards, 6-speed manual

    $41970 - final

    $2500 - down payment

    36 months

    15k miles

    $557 Month

  • cbov80cbov80 Posts: 1

    2014 A4 Premium plus with navi, cold weather package and 6-speed manual MSRP - $42595 They're offer - $41295

    $5000 down they wanted $595 a month for a 36month 12k miles

    Doesn't seem like a good deal at all. Need to get them to come down on their end.

  • dfennigdfennig Posts: 1
    edited January 21

    I'm looking to lease an Ibis White 2014 A4 2.0L Quattro Premium Plus, B&O, Black Optic pkg and Sport pkg. MSRP is $44,390. I was quoted approx $560/mo (tax incl) for a 42 month/12k miles per year lease. I was told the M/F is .00099 and the residual is 50%. The numbers all seem to jive but does the M/F seem too high and the residual too low? Am I paying too much if I agree to those terms? Thank you.

    Forgot to mention that the quote was based on $0 cap cost reduction and about $2k due at signing.

  • kyfdx%40Edmundskyfdx%40Edmunds Posts: 25,872

    Looks like they are marking up the money factor from the base rate of .00059, which is typical for an Audi dealer... The residual is correct.

    The money factor markup adds about $26/mo +tax to your payment...

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  • af_njaf_nj Posts: 2

    I am looking into the A4 2.0T Premium Lease mentioned here http://www.bellaudi.com/specials/new.htm

    299/month for 36m/10k lease $1723 down payment. 1st payment, $695 bank fee, doc & MV fees due at lease signing. $3495 total due at lease signing plus Audi loyalty or Audi Owner Acquisition 10,000 miles per year .25 ea addt'l, MSRP $37090. Lease end buyout $20749. *State Sales tax is additional.

    The residual comes out to ~56% but not sure how to get the MF from this.

    What do you guys think?

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  • gdmstrbgdmstrb Posts: 5

    I realize that this is not the Allroad forum, but there doesn't seem to be pricing or lease topics there. If you could be so kindly to provide MF and Residuals for 36 and 42 mo leases @ 10 and 12K miles. This would be for Premium Plus and Prestige trim levels.

  • eyc908eyc908 Posts: 8
    edited January 23

    I leased/purchased an Audi 2014 PP MMI under what Audi termed a "hybrid retail/lease" contract with the following terms:

    • Negotiated Price: $42,500
    • Term: 42 months
    • Balloon payment option of $23,650 to purchase car after 42 months

    MY QUESTION: Does this car really depreciate by $18,850 (42500-23650) in just 42 months? In other words, is it really worth $18,850 just to rent the vehicle for 42 months? (It's actually more, since I'm paying about $4,500 in taxes and $3,000 in interest.)

    If the answer is "no," I'd prefer to just terminate the lease (without penalty), purchase the car outright and finance it through another lender at the same or lower interest rate.

  • kyfdx%40Edmundskyfdx%40Edmunds Posts: 25,872

    @gdmstrb said: I realize that this is not the Allroad forum, but there doesn't seem to be pricing or lease topics there. If you could be so kindly to provide MF and Residuals for 36 and 42 mo leases @ 10 and 12K miles. This would be for Premium Plus and Prestige trim levels.

    2014 allroad Premium Plus 36mo, 12K/yr lease

    .00092 MF and 55% residual

    42mo, 12K/yr lease: .00112 MF and 51% residual

    Add 1% for 10K/yr. Subtract 2% for Prestige trim..

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  • eyc908eyc908 Posts: 8

    Would really appreciate any insight into my question two posts above. In short, I'm curious if a buy-out price at the end of a 42-month lease of $23,650 is a fair deal for a car priced at $42,500. (2014 A4, quattro, premium plus, mmi).

  • Michaell@EdmundsMichaell@Edmunds ColoradoPosts: 1,109

    @eyc908 said: Would really appreciate any insight into my question two posts above. In short, I'm curious if a buy-out price at the end of a 42-month lease of $23,650 is a fair deal for a car priced at $42,500. (2014 A4, quattro, premium plus, mmi).

    Is the $42,500 the MSRP or the selling price to you? The residual amount is based on the MSRP. $23,650 is about 56% of the $42,500 price. My co-host will have more information on the Audi residual values.

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  • eyc908eyc908 Posts: 8

    @Michaell@Edmunds said: Is the $42,500 the MSRP or the selling price to you? The residual amount is based on the MSRP. $23,650 is about 56% of the $42,500 price. My co-host will have more information on the Audi residual values.

    Oh, I see. The $42,500 was the selling price. The MSRP was $44,620. So, I guess that makes the residual 53%. Is that a decent residual? (I will review the posts above mine to see if I can find a good match.)

  • Michaell@EdmundsMichaell@Edmunds ColoradoPosts: 1,109

    @eyc908 said: Oh, I see. The $42,500 was the selling price. The MSRP was $44,620. So, I guess that makes the residual 53%. Is that a decent residual? (I will review the posts above mine to see if I can find a good match.)

    Again, I'll let kyfdx comment on the actual residuals offered by Audi, but the 53% seems pretty strong.

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  • kyfdx%40Edmundskyfdx%40Edmunds Posts: 25,872

    That looks like some sort of balloon payment program. Are you in a full tax state like Illinois or Texas? I don't really have much information on those, just on straight lease programs..

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  • eyc908eyc908 Posts: 8
    edited January 28

    @kyfdx@Edmunds said: That looks like some sort of balloon payment program. Are you in a full tax state like Illinois or Texas? I don't really have much information on those, just on straight lease programs..

    Yes indeed. It is a balloon payment program and, yes, I am in Illinois. I've looked at the details and I'm not really sure how the balloon payment program is any different than a lease. I pay a monthly payment for 42 months, and then they either take the car back or I buy it for the balloon amount. Isn't that essentially how a lease works?

  • kyfdx%40Edmundskyfdx%40Edmunds Posts: 25,872

    A lease does work the same way, but they don't always offer the same rates/residuals on the balloon as the do the lease.

    Of course, the reason they offer that in Illinois, is so the car can be put in your name, and you get the tax benefits from trade-in, or purchase at the end of lease. It's hard to predict the future, as far as residuals (even though the banks try to do it). If you buy out your contract, you lose that option to turn the car in at the end of term. If it turns out to be a car with a lot of problems, or you have an accident and do $20K of repairs, that might be what you want to do. You have to balance the value of that option, against what you'll save by re-financing. Also, a traditional loan would probably have a higher payment, if that makes a difference to you.

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  • plinaplina Posts: 33

    KYFDX I'm looking at an A4 Quattro premium plus Glazier white , with mmi navigation, sport package, B.O. sound, spoiler and Audi guard. MSRP 46,675 invoice 43,477 I figure I can get invoice plus the 1000 BMW discount so this could be 42, 477 what do you think? And can you tell me the residual for this month and money factor?

  • kyfdx%40Edmundskyfdx%40Edmunds Posts: 25,872

    .00039 MF and 52% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr lease

    Looks like a pretty good deal... so, watch out for money factor bumps and high fees..

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  • Looking for some assistance :) I was just at my dealer in New York today and got numbers on an 2014 A4 P+ ,12k a year/36 month lease. Looking to trade in my 2007 Audi A4 Quattro with 79,500k Appraised at $9,000.00 debt still owed on car $1,900.00. Was wondering if this is a good deal or not and if there's room to negotiate. See below a break down. Trade in: 2007 Audi A4 Prem. Package Milage:79,500k Purchased as Certified Pre Owned at the same dealer Also leased another A4 from this dealer. Appraised Trade Value: $9,000.00 Audi 2014 P+ 12k a year / 36 month lease MSRP:$44,680.00 L.E.V %: 54.00% Lease End Value: $24,127.20 Initial Cap Cost: $42,533.00 Trade In:$9,000.00 Loyalty: $1,500.00 Adjusted Cap Cost: $34,942.59 Sales Tax: $1,198.91 Money Factor: 0.00039 Amount Due at signing: $1,305.29 ( Came to 360 a month with no money out of pocket) Monthly Payment: $323.47

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