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2014 Audi A4 Lease Questions

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  • jimmymac6jimmymac6 Posts: 1
    edited February 17

    Just wondering if this is a good deal?

    Their deal: $500 down, 15k miles per year, 36 months, monthly payment is $431 including tax

    There are similar deals out there right now with a $1499 cap cost reduction and 10k miles for $299 per month. Does this Audi deal not include state sales tax?

    I calculated the payment to be approx $415 per month with a 50% residual and .00018 money factor. Am I missing something? Does 15k miles per year and $1000 less for the down payment boost the monthly payment by $132 per month? Seems too much.

    2014 A4 2.0T FWD MULTITRONIC, IBIS WHITE, AUDI NAVIGATION SYSTEM

    MSRP $36,795

    Your ePrice for this vehicle is $33,769 + tax & fees!

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,594

    @gmoney28 said: So there is nothing wrong with the STI, however, I am adding a new addition to the family and will now need 2 carseats instead of 1 and Daddy can't eat the stearing wheel all the time, so its time to get a more family friendly car.
    As for the note about wanting the Premium +, I really wanted Audi Driver Select, however, I was comparing the option in the A4 with the option that was with the 2012 A6 that I went for a ride in some time ago and it is nothing alike, so I am ok with the Premium trim line.
    As for the figures above, I was incorrect on a couple of points, below I have redefined the deal with the most up to date numbers I have received. Could you confirm if I should continue beating on this dealer or try to find another that will work on the "factors"?
    MSRP - $39,495 (Not $39,945) Selling Price $38,100 - 3.67% discount from MSRP Taxes/Fees +1st payment - $2,273 (Paid from $4K down)
    Down payment - $4,000
    $500 Audi Cash for Presidents Day
    CapCost Buy Down - $1,727 - (Remainder of $4K down)
    Monthly payment $470 - 42mo - 15K/yr (including Audi Care)
    The dealer I am working with is the only one in the area and they are not a big one at all. They are quite small actually and I am thinking that they probably don't have as much room to bargain as other larger dealers. I have also heard from a co-worker they are harder to bargain with as well.
    Thank you for the feed back. I have never leased before and am worried about jumping froma car that "never" loses its value to a car that depreciates instantly once you roll off the lot...

    Well... none of that is unusual for an Audi dealer. I've never found one that was very easy to deal with. Well, they are easy if you don't mind paying a lot.

    That just seems like a big monthly payment for a $39,500 car, especially with $4K upfront. That doesn't make it a bad deal, just an expensive car to lease..

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,594

    @jimmymac6 said: Just wondering if this is a good deal?

    Their deal: $500 down, 15k miles per year, 36 months, monthly payment is $431 including tax

    There are similar deals out there right now with a $1499 cap cost reduction and 10k miles for $299 per month. Does this Audi deal not include state sales tax?

    I calculated the payment to be approx $415 per month with a 50% residual and .00018 money factor. Am I missing something? Does 15k miles per year and $1000 less for the down payment boost the monthly payment by $132 per month? Seems too much.

    2014 A4 2.0T FWD MULTITRONIC, IBIS WHITE, AUDI NAVIGATION SYSTEM

    MSRP $36,795

    Your ePrice for this vehicle is $33,769 + tax & fees!

    Regarding the advertised deal. $1000 more down, plus $700 acquisition fee, plus $1100 for 15K/yr mileage (- 3% residual). That's $80 more per month.... then add sales tax, title and registration.... Getting pretty close.

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  • sjl136sjl136 Posts: 7
    Looking for latest lease info (MF and residual) on 2014 allroad premium plus; 36 mo @ 15k/yr. Sorry to post in this forum but couldn't get to the allroad forum on my phone.
  • sjl136sjl136 Posts: 7
    Also, does Audi participate in MSDs?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,594

    @sjl136 said: Looking for latest lease info (MF and residual) on 2014 allroad premium plus; 36 mo @ 15k/yr. Sorry to post in this forum but couldn't get to the allroad forum on my phone.

    .00092 MF and 53% residual

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,594

    @sjl136 said: Also, does Audi participate in MSDs?

    Yes, but I'm not sure of the specifics, as far as how many MSDs and the MF discount for each one.

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  • churwitzchurwitz Posts: 5
    edited March 5

    Are the new March rates out? Looking for mf and residual for a 2014 Audi A4 Premium Plus Quattro with manual transmission, 36 months @ 10k miles per year. Are the rates for 39 months different? Many thanks!

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,594

    @churwitz said: Are the new March rates out? Looking for mf and residual for a 2014 Audi A4 Premium Plus Quattro with manual transmission, 36 months @ 10k miles per year. Are the rates for 39 months different? Many thanks!

    .00039 MF and 55% residual.

    39 month: .00059 MF and 53% residual

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  • imagiroimagiro Posts: 6

    Ok so stupid question - I'm starting a car search and am considering luxury cars for the first time. I've noticed some have special lease deals like the one below:

    1) Is the asking price still negotiable on these?
    2) Are these usually good deals if they match the car you are looking at? 3) If you add on a new option to these deals - does it "break" the deal or does it just add to the capitalized cost?

    Also whats the MF on 36 month lease and residual on the below car? (36 month, 10k miles)

    2014 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro Premium Rate based on MSRP $37,545 of 2014 Audi A4 2.0T quattro Premium Package, Tiptronic, Cold Weather Package and destination charges, excluding taxes, title, other options and dealer charges. Dealer Offer $379 per month for 36 months $2,873 cash due at signing Offer only valid 3/01/2014 through 3/31/2014 $379 per Month Lease for 36 Months, $1,799 Customer Down, Security Deposit Waived, $2,873 Due at Signing

    Sorry for the stupid question - new to luxury cars and want to go in and not give into the "dazzle" :)

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,594

    @imagiro said: Ok so stupid question - I'm starting a car search and am considering luxury cars for the first time. I've noticed some have special lease deals like the one below:

    1) Is the asking price still negotiable on these?
    2) Are these usually good deals if they match the car you are looking at? 3) If you add on a new option to these deals - does it "break" the deal or does it just add to the capitalized cost?

    Also whats the MF on 36 month lease and residual on the below car? (36 month, 10k miles)

    2014 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro Premium Rate based on MSRP $37,545 of 2014 Audi A4 2.0T quattro Premium Package, Tiptronic, Cold Weather Package and destination charges, excluding taxes, title, other options and dealer charges. Dealer Offer $379 per month for 36 months $2,873 cash due at signing Offer only valid 3/01/2014 through 3/31/2014 $379 per Month Lease for 36 Months, $1,799 Customer Down, Security Deposit Waived, $2,873 Due at Signing

    Sorry for the stupid question - new to luxury cars and want to go in and not give into the "dazzle" :)

    .00039 MF and 55% residual.

    Assuming you stay with the same model and trim line, a different MSRP should change all of the numbers by the same percentage amount.. So, if you select a unit that has an MSRP that is 5% higher than the unit in the ad, you could expect the payment to be 5% higher, and most of the other numbers, as well. But, the "bones" of the deal should stay the same. Money factor, residual percentage, etc.

    Can you do better than the advertised deal? Most deals leave a little extra to work with. However, don't be surprised if it's hard to match that advertised deal.
    "excluding taxes, title, other options and dealer charges?"
    That stuff can add up to a lot, especially if the dealer is trying to maximize their profit.

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  • churwitzchurwitz Posts: 5
    I have a lease on an a3 ending soon. I'm looking at trading in the a3 for a lease in the a4. The a3 lease has excess wear and tear insurance. If I do a deal with the dealer to factor in profit on the a3 in my a4 lease, would the dealer be able to use the insurance to fix any scratches on the a3 (and to increase the trade-In value that they're able to give me on my a4 lease). Hope my question makes sense - it's quite a complex deal.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,594

    I doubt your excess wear insurance has any value, if you aren't turning in the car at the end-of-lease..

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  • jooheewonjooheewon Posts: 5
    edited March 23

    What is March/2014 MF and RV rate for
    Premium Plus Quattro w/ navi, 12k/year and 42month
    Premium Plus Quattro w/ navi, 12k/year and 36month
    Premium w/o navi, 12k/year and 42month
    Premium w/o navi, 12k/year and 36month

    I got a quote on Premium Plus with Navi MSRP 42k and got adjusted to $39k that makes me to pay $0 out of pocket, $560 a month for 42months and 12k mile/year based on my county tax of 8.75%. Does this look good to you? @kyfdx@edmunds


    The dealer said MF is .0006 and RV is 48% ....

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,594

    @jooheewon said: What is March/2014 MF and RV rate for
    Premium Plus Quattro w/ navi, 12k/year and 42month
    Premium Plus Quattro w/ navi, 12k/year and 36month
    Premium w/o navi, 12k/year and 42month
    Premium w/o navi, 12k/year and 36month

    I got a quote on Premium Plus with Navi MSRP 42k and got adjusted to $39k that makes me to pay $0 out of pocket, $560 a month for 42months and 12k mile/year based on my county tax of 8.75%. Does this look good to you? kyfdx@edmunds


    The dealer said MF is .0006 and RV is 48% ....

    The numbers are the same on both models.

    .00039 MF and 54% residual for 36mo, 12K/yr
    .00059 MF and 50% residual for 42mo, 12K/yr.

    That 48% residual is for 15K/yr, not 12K/yr.

    Using $39K as your cap cost and .00059 and 50%, I get a monthly payment around $464 + tax. It's possible that your CAP has additions for acquisition fee ($695) and title/registration that could make up difference. At $560/mo., your pre-tax payment is about $515.mo. That is $50/mo, or $2100 over the term of the lease, so that's a big difference. If they quoted you for 15K/yr and used 48% residual, that would account for $20/mo. difference.

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  • magnolia8magnolia8 Posts: 1

    Can someone please comment on the following lease deal:

    2014 A4 quattro tiptronic black on black Premium, cold weather package Total Price $37,945 Money Factor .00039% Residual 54% 36 months, 12K miles/yr $2,500 down, $379 per month

    Is this a good deal? Thanks

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 7,389

    @magnolia8 said: Can someone please comment on the following lease deal:

    2014 A4 quattro tiptronic black on black Premium, cold weather package Total Price $37,945 Money Factor .00039% Residual 54% 36 months, 12K miles/yr $2,500 down, $379 per month

    Is this a good deal? Thanks

    How much of the $2500 down is going to the cap cost reduction? What is the final selling price?

    The money factor and residual match up with the numbers I have, so if you can negotiate more of the down payment into the lease to minimize your out of pocket, you have a pretty good deal.

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  • nextcar3nextcar3 Posts: 9

    Hi.. Can you give me the residuals and money factors for 2014 A4 Premium 2 years/12k miles. If you don't have April numbers, please give the March numbers. I am trying to get an idea about difference between 2 and 3 year lease.

  • ez627ez627 Posts: 4

    Looking for residual and money factor for 2014 A4 Premium Plus 3 years/10k miles. Thanks.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 7,389

    @ez627 said: Looking for residual and money factor for 2014 A4 Premium Plus 3 years/10k miles. Thanks.

    FWD -.00018 and 53%

    Quattro - .00039 and 55%

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  • I got A4 2.0t quattro premium plus with Nav and few extra monsoon grey color for 37k. 23.5 residual. 55% residual. 0.00039 MF. First payment and title included. Final with tax in ca at 483 a month. 695 lease acquisition inclded also. 350 for lease disposition.
  • fern007fern007 Posts: 4

    Hello, I recieved a quote for a 2014 Audi A4 Premium Plus Quattro lease. The car has several options with an MSRP of $44,500. Something doesnt make sense in the payment calculation. Here are the details. Any advice would be appreicted.

    • MSRP - $44500
    • Purchas Price $43,700
    • ETCH $199.00
    • Term 42 Months
    • Money Factor .00079
    • Residual 50% or $22,750.00
    • 12k Mi a year
    • ACQ Fee $695.00
    • Initial Payment $3245
    • Rebate $1500 (fees were $3245 but rebate left the $1745 down)
    • Cash Down $1745.00
    • Govt Fees $178
    • Taxes $1657.04
    • Doc Fee $399.00
    • Payment is $597.74

    In calculating the premium int seems like I'm not getting the rebate for some reason. When I calculate the payment myself or online I cant match the one provided to my wife. Any advice on how to calculate with the above info?

  • fern007fern007 Posts: 4

    I did have a second part to my question. If the initial fees include the taxes do I also have to add sales tax to the payment? Thanks

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,594

    @fern007 said: Hello, I recieved a quote for a 2014 Audi A4 Premium Plus Quattro lease. The car has several options with an MSRP of $44,500. Something doesnt make sense in the payment calculation. Here are the details. Any advice would be appreicted.

    • MSRP - $44500
    • Purchas Price $43,700
    • ETCH $199.00
    • Term 42 Months
    • Money Factor .00079
    • Residual 50% or $22,750.00
    • 12k Mi a year
    • ACQ Fee $695.00
    • Initial Payment $3245
    • Rebate $1500 (fees were $3245 but rebate left the $1745 down)
    • Cash Down $1745.00
    • Govt Fees $178
    • Taxes $1657.04
    • Doc Fee $399.00
    • Payment is $597.74

    In calculating the premium int seems like I'm not getting the rebate for some reason. When I calculate the payment myself or online I cant match the one provided to my wife. Any advice on how to calculate with the above info?

    To know what this deal entails, you'll need a breakdown of the $3245. I have to say.. an $800 discount coupled with $200 etching and $399 doc fee doesn't sound like a good deal, even with a $1500 rebate.

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  • fern007fern007 Posts: 4

    Thanks. Yes something feels off. All the components they gave me are above. It doesn't explicitily breakout the initial fee components. It seems it consists of taxes, first months payment, dmv fees, doc fees, tax on cap reduction, and bank fee. But when I calculate with those assumptions the payment should be about $35 less then they show. Which feels like they are trying to not apply the 1500 rebate (1000 loyalty and 500 audi a4 rebate). I also hear audi is giving a rebate when your buy or order a car with side assist and nav of $1500. Do you know if that is reflected in the purchase price or separate?

  • ne1ggne1gg Posts: 3

    The equipment credit can be off MSRP or a discount off the car.
    I found a few dealers in the New England area that were flexible with that credit toward a lease in addition to a very competitive price.

  • fern007fern007 Posts: 4

    What dealers did you use. I'm a upset about the deal they gave my wife. I have bought leased several cars from this place but even the purchase price they quoted was a joke. Im just trying to reconcile the math they did because it seems like something else is off.

  • ne1ggne1gg Posts: 3

    There was a lot of groundwork involved in finding a great lease; so, I would rather not promote specific dealers. PM me to discuss specifics.

  • zolkalterzolkalter Posts: 1

    Can someone comment on the following lease for a 2014 A4 Quattro Premium Plus (with Nav and Black Optic package)? I'm new to leasing and the deal I got at Infiniti on an almost identical price blows this out of the water.

    MSRP: $45,195.00

    Less: $1,196 (Discount) and $1,000 (Rebate for coming from Acura)

    Adjusted Price: $42,999.00

    Audi Care: $860.00

    Total Purchase Price (w/ Audi Care) - $43,859.00

    Term: 36 Month / 12K Miles a Year

    ADM Fee (Whatever this includes) - $539.00

    Tax: $129.89

    Non-Tax Fees - $84.00

    Net Price: $44,611.89

    Payment is $555.00 a month. (Assuming $4k Cash Down)

    I don't know what the MF is and I'm not sure what number to use to calculate the residual rate off of. (I didn't ask at the time what those were since I was just window shopping). Assume my credit qualifies me for Tier 1 (whatever the top is).

    Infiniti is offering me 39 months at $519 a month (Assuming $0 Cash Down) on a $42,935 cap cost at 61% residual rate.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 7,389

    @zolkalter said: Can someone comment on the following lease for a 2014 A4 Quattro Premium Plus (with Nav and Black Optic package)? I'm new to leasing and the deal I got at Infiniti on an almost identical price blows this out of the water.

    MSRP: $45,195.00

    Less: $1,196 (Discount) and $1,000 (Rebate for coming from Acura)

    Adjusted Price: $42,999.00

    Audi Care: $860.00

    Total Purchase Price (w/ Audi Care) - $43,859.00

    Term: 36 Month / 12K Miles a Year

    ADM Fee (Whatever this includes) - $539.00

    Tax: $129.89

    Non-Tax Fees - $84.00

    Net Price: $44,611.89

    Payment is $555.00 a month. (Assuming $4k Cash Down)

    I don't know what the MF is and I'm not sure what number to use to calculate the residual rate off of. (I didn't ask at the time what those were since I was just window shopping). Assume my credit qualifies me for Tier 1 (whatever the top is).

    Infiniti is offering me 39 months at $519 a month (Assuming $0 Cash Down) on a $42,935 cap cost at 61% residual rate.

    Without crunching the numbers, there are two things about this deal that concern me.

    ADM stands for "Additional Dealer Markup" - basically, they are reversing $529 of the $1196 discount they are offering you. You should target 4-6% below MSRP as your selling price, before the $1000 conquest incentive is used.

    Second, your payment is based on $4000 down - is this truly a down payment? If so, that's not a good idea. If the car is stolen or totaled, you are out that money.

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