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2014 Audi A4 Lease Questions

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  • krypt0rgkrypt0rg Posts: 6

    @Michaell said:

    Thanks Michael. I am looking for a 3 yr lease with 10000 Miles per year. I dont drive much. I did contact a few dealers in May 2014 and they have offered me a MF: 0.00036 with a residual of 53%. $434 per month. However I did not consider that back then. I'm starting the process all over again. Should i be looking at 2014 or 2015 at this point?

  • dave2015dave2015 Posts: 5

    Also, for a premium plus - the base MF is 0.00007? How about for premium and prestige for a 2014 A4 FWD with the same leasing criteria as before. Thanks a bunch!!

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 5,104

    @krypt0rg said: Thanks Michael. I am looking for a 3 yr lease with 10000 Miles per year. I dont drive much. I did contact a few dealers in May 2014 and they have offered me a MF: 0.00036 with a residual of 53%. $434 per month. However I did not consider that back then. I'm starting the process all over again. Should i be looking at 2014 or 2015 at this point?

    I suspect 2014's are getting scarce, but if you can find one equipped the way you like, you're likely to get a better selling price.

    The MF's on the 2015's are a bit high - I suspect to encourage customers to lease 2014's and clear out the stock.

    2014 FWD - .00007 and 52%

    2014 AWD - .00020 and 54%

    2015 FWD - .00092 and 56% (premium)

    2015 AWD - .00099 and 57% (premium)

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 5,104

    @dave2015 said: Also, for a premium plus - the base MF is 0.00007? How about for premium and prestige for a 2014 A4 FWD with the same leasing criteria as before. Thanks a bunch!!

    All FWD A4's have the MF at .00007 for up to 36 months. Remind us again the lease term and miles per year?

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  • dave2015dave2015 Posts: 5

    @Michaell‌, thanks for your reply! 36mo/10K miles - so its a good idea to push the dealer to reduce my MF to 0.0007. Correct? I was wondering where the base MF/residual values are obtained

  • krypt0rgkrypt0rg Posts: 6

    @Michaell said: Thanks again Michaell. I am mostly gonna go with a 2014 A4. Are your numbers also applicable for Premius Plus ?

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 5,104
    edited August 8

    @dave2015 said: Michaell‌, thanks for your reply! 36mo/10K miles - so its a good idea to push the dealer to reduce my MF to 0.0007. Correct? I was wondering where the base MF/residual values are obtained

    Politely and firmly, but yes, you shouldn't sign any deal that includes a marked up MF.

    We get our documents from AFS.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 5,104

    @krypt0rg said:

    Premium and Premium Plus MF's and RV's are the same.

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  • dave2015dave2015 Posts: 5

    Thanks a lot @Michaell, that helps.

  • jevannetjevannet Posts: 4

    What are MF and Residual % for 39 mos lease on 2015 a4 AWD Premium Plus with and without Audi Care for 10k and 7500mi lease?

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,679

    @jevannet said: What are MF and Residual % for 39 mos lease on 2015 a4 AWD Premium Plus with and without Audi Care for 10k and 7500mi lease?

    .00119 MF and 53% for 36mo, 10K/yr.

    Add 1% for AudiCare. Add 1% for 7.5K/yr

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  • jevannetjevannet Posts: 4

    Any different for the 39 month vs. 36month lease with MF and RV for 2015 A4 PPlus?

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 5,104

    @jevannet said: Any different for the 39 month vs. 36month lease with MF and RV for 2015 A4 PPlus?

    36 month MF drops to .00099; 36/10 residual is 55%

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  • kerseekersee Posts: 3
    edited August 11

    First, many thanks for all the helpful information on this forum. I am new to leasing and have found a wealth of information here.

    I just received my first quote on a 2014 A4 2.0T quattro premium plus with the nav and sport packages and I need a bit of help to make sure I'm negotiating in my best interest. Here is what I know:

    MSRP: $43,370 Selling Price: $42,570 Payment: $642.06 Guaranteed Residual: $21,251 MF: .0011 Miles per Year: 15K Term: 39 months (I asked for 36, but the quote came in with 39- they say they can't do 36 on the A4, A5, and Q5) Downpayment: $0 Tag and Tax: $1513

    Do these figures make sense based on the August numbers?

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 5,104

    @kersee said: First, many thanks for all the helpful information on this forum. I am new to leasing and have found a wealth of information here.

    I just received my first quote on a 2014 A4 2.0T quattro premium plus with the nav and sport packages and I need a bit of help to make sure I'm negotiating in my best interest. Here is what I know:

    MSRP: $43,370 Selling Price: $42,570 Payment: $642.06 Guaranteed Residual: $21,251 MF: .0011 Miles per Year: 15K Term: 39 months (I asked for 36, but the quote came in with 39- they say they can't do 36 on the A4, A5, and Q5) Downpayment: $0 Tag and Tax: $1513

    Do these figures make sense based on the August numbers?

    Base MF on the A4Q Premium Plus is .00020 for up to 36 months, and .00040 for terms longer than that. Your MF is absolutely being marked up.

    RV for 39/15 on that model is indeed 49%.

    I don't understand why the dealer claims they cannot write up a 36 month lease - you might want to reach out to a second dealer and see what they have to say.

    Regarding the purchase price, you should be able to get 5-7% off MSRP pretty easily - $800 off is hardly anything.

    What state is this? Different states calculate sales tax on leases differently.

    When I run your numbers, I get a pre-tax payment of $616.84, so pretty close to your quote. If I change the MF and RV to reflect a 36/15 lease (using the base MF), the payment drops to $581.03 - and that's before negotiating a lower selling price. If I take 5% off MSRP ($41,201), then the payment goes to $542.73 before tax.

    In other words, lots of room to negotiate.

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  • kerseekersee Posts: 3

    Thank you so much. This is really a poor offer compared to the 328ix proposal I just received for a car with a higher MSRP than the Audi.

    Perhaps this is worth mentioning- the dealership would be bringing in a vehicle from out of state for me so I can get the features I want, but I can't imagine that would account for much of a price bump. (Maybe I should contact the out of state dealer directly.)

    Now, let me jump to MSDs. This dealer says they can do up to 10. How much is the MF reduced for each MSD?

    I'm in Oklahoma.

    Many thanks to you, again.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 5,104

    @kersee said: Thank you so much. This is really a poor offer compared to the 328ix proposal I just received for a car with a higher MSRP than the Audi.

    Perhaps this is worth mentioning- the dealership would be bringing in a vehicle from out of state for me so I can get the features I want, but I can't imagine that would account for much of a price bump. (Maybe I should contact the out of state dealer directly.)

    Now, let me jump to MSDs. This dealer says they can do up to 10. How much is the MF reduced for each MSD?

    .00005 reduction in MF per MSD

    I'm in Oklahoma.

    Many thanks to you, again.

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  • j24audij24audi Posts: 3

    Hi Michaell

    I am currently in the market for a 2015 A4 Quattro Premium Plus.

    I stopped by the dealer to drive and get the MF and RV - no negotiating because I wanted to check on the figures here before I went back in.

    I am looking at the 2015 A4 Quattro Moonlight Blue, Tech package, Prem Plus Package, B&O, all weather mats, wheel lock kit at MSRP $45,360.

    The salesman gave me 54 RV and .00165 MF for this car. Does this sound right? Also, what % off MSRP should I try to get? Edmunds price and build for this car calc'd $42,252 invoice and $44,621 best price (which still seems high to me).

    I would take advantage of the $1500 customer loyalty credit, and plan on putting zero down except for tax, tags, title etc (no cap cost reduction planned except for customer loyalty credit).

    Where should I come in payment wise? This is the only Audi dealer in my area and are not know for being honest.

    Thanks so much~

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,679

    @j24audi said: Hi Michaell

    I am currently in the market for a 2015 A4 Quattro Premium Plus.

    I stopped by the dealer to drive and get the MF and RV - no negotiating because I wanted to check on the figures here before I went back in.

    I am looking at the 2015 A4 Quattro Moonlight Blue, Tech package, Prem Plus Package, B&O, all weather mats, wheel lock kit at MSRP $45,360.

    The salesman gave me 54 RV and .00165 MF for this car. Does this sound right? Also, what % off MSRP should I try to get? Edmunds price and build for this car calc'd $42,252 invoice and $44,621 best price (which still seems high to me).

    I would take advantage of the $1500 customer loyalty credit, and plan on putting zero down except for tax, tags, title etc (no cap cost reduction planned except for customer loyalty credit).

    Where should I come in payment wise? This is the only Audi dealer in my area and are not know for being honest.

    Thanks so much~

    .00099 MF and 54% residual for 36mo, 12K/yr. So, obviously, they are quoting a marked up money factor.

    Selling price will be harder to pin down. The best Audi deals seem to be about 6% off MSRP, though getting that deal this early in the model year may be difficult.

    Adding the $695 acquisition fee to the CAP cost, and using the .00099 MF, I get a payment of $647/mo.+tax. Assume the $1500 covers 1st payment and title/registration/doc fees.. $693/mo. using their inflated money factor.

    As you can see, this car won't be cheap to lease, even if you get 6% off and the base rate.. $590/mo.+tax, even if..

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  • j24audij24audi Posts: 3

    Whoops!! 3 years/ 12k miles :blush:

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,679

    @j24audi said: Whoops!! 3 years/ 12k miles :blush:

    Yup... extrapolated that from the quoted residual.

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  • j24audij24audi Posts: 3

    Thanks so much kyfdx! Would it be worth it to bring 2500 or 3k to the table? Would that reduce the payment by a nice amount?

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,679

    @j24audi said: Thanks so much kyfdx! Would it be worth it to bring 2500 or 3k to the table? Would that reduce the payment by a nice amount?

    Sure.. divide any downpayment by the lease term, and that's how much it lowers the payment... but, that doesn't actually save you any money. Just trading and upfront payment for a lower monthly.

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  • arexreearexree Posts: 23
    edited August 21

    Hi Michaell / kyfdx / anyone else,

    I received the following lease offer for a 2015 Audi A4 Premium 2.0 from a Connecticut dealer. Could you let me know what you think?

    Lease terms are 12K miles per year/36 months. The dealer said I can qualify for the Audi Summer Event first month payment on Audi as well as the Audi Conquest incentive if my dad co-signs the lease as he is currently leasing a Mercedes Benz. Here is the breakdown:

    Monthly Payment: $497/month (with Audi Care maintenance) / Out of Pocket: $5,800 (includes 9 MSDs that I will participate in, a $299 conveyance/dealer fee, $185 CT Registration fee, $695 acquisition/bank fee, and a 6.35% tax rate on the conveyance/dealer fee and acquisition fee) / MSRP: $39,870 / Selling Price: $37,985 (includes all incentives) / MF: 0.00099 / Residual: $22,725.90 (57%)

    If I don't participate in any MSDs, the breakdown would be the following:

    Monthly Payment: $526/month (with Audi Care maintenance) / Out of Pocket: $1,300 (includes a $299 conveyance/dealer fee, $185 CT Registration fee, $695 acquisition/bank fee, and a 6.35% tax rate on the conveyance/dealer fee and acquisition fee) / MSRP: $39,870 / Selling Price: $37,985 (includes all incentives) / MF: 0.00099 / Residual: $22,725.90 (57%)

    Are there any questions I should ask out of the gate with these figures? Without any MSDs, I get a monthly payment of $538-$547 while with max MSDs, I calculate a $509-$518/month payment. So based on my numbers, their offer seems fair.

    Perhaps I should roll the bank/acquisition fee into my monthly payments? Any other suggestions?

    Thanks in advance, Alex

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 5,104

    @arexree said: Hi Michaell / kyfdx / anyone else,

    I received the following lease offer for a 2015 Audi A4 Premium 2.0 from a Connecticut dealer. Could you let me know what you think?

    Lease terms are 12K miles per year/36 months. The dealer said I can qualify for the Audi Summer Event first month payment on Audi as well as the Audi Conquest incentive if my dad co-signs the lease as he is currently leasing a Mercedes Benz. Here is the breakdown:

    Monthly Payment: $497/month (with Audi Care maintenance) / Out of Pocket: $5,800 (includes 9 MSDs that I will participate in, a $299 conveyance/dealer fee, $185 CT Registration fee, $695 acquisition/bank fee, and a 6.35% tax rate on the conveyance/dealer fee and acquisition fee) / MSRP: $39,870 / Selling Price: $37,985 (does not include $1K Audi Conquest incentive) / MF: 0.00099 / Residual: $22,725.90 (57%)

    If I don't participate in any MSDs, the breakdown would be the following:

    Monthly Payment: $526/month (with Audi Care maintenance) / Out of Pocket: $1,300 (includes a $299 conveyance/dealer fee, $185 CT Registration fee, $695 acquisition/bank fee, and a 6.35% tax rate on the conveyance/dealer fee and acquisition fee) / MSRP: $39,870 / Selling Price: $37,985 (does not include $1K Audi Conquest incentive) / MF: 0.00099 / Residual: $22,725.90 (57%)

    Are there any questions I should ask out of the gate with these figures? Without any MSDs, I get a monthly payment of $538-$547 while with max MSDs, I calculate a $509-$518/month payment. So based on my numbers, their offer seems fair.

    Perhaps I should roll the bank/acquisition fee into my monthly payments? Any other suggestions?

    Thanks in advance, Alex

    .00099 is the base MF for the 2015 A4 2.0T Quattro, so the dealer is not marking that up. But, I'm showing the 36/12 residual as 56%, not 57%. This is not something the dealer can change. I wouldn't expect a huge discount from sticker - maybe 3-4% - on the 2015's so not sure you've got much wiggle room there.

    Seems a decent deal; using the MSDs absolutely help.

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  • Hi,

    I'm new to leasing and plan to lease a 2014 or 2015 A4. Like many before me, I find this forum extremely helpful. I'm in a unique situation. I currently live in the Bay area but will move at the end of September to the Washington D.C. area. My question is where can I expect to get the better lease deal?

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 5,104

    @kaunosario said: Hi,

    I'm new to leasing and plan to lease a 2014 or 2015 A4. Like many before me, I find this forum extremely helpful. I'm in a unique situation. I currently live in the Bay area but will move at the end of September to the Washington D.C. area. My question is where can I expect to get the better lease deal?

    The numbers from Audi are national - no regional difference for MF or residual.

    The difference comes down to where you will get a better discount from sticker. Given that most Audis are Quattro, you might find BayArea dealers to be more accommodating - how often do you need AWD in San Francisco?

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  • Good point. I will try my luck in the Bay area. Thx

  • falcey27falcey27 Posts: 1
    With top tier credit, what would the residual and MF be on a 2014 A4 2.0T premium (FWD) on 15k/year and 36 month lease? Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,679

    @falcey27 said: With top tier credit, what would the residual and MF be on a 2014 A4 2.0T premium (FWD) on 15k/year and 36 month lease? Thanks!

    .00007 MF and 49% residual

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