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2014 Audi A5 Lease Questions

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  • jonathan777jonathan777 Posts: 2

    First off, this board is very informative and very helpful. Thanks to the Moderators who are very active on this forum!

    I plan on getting a 2014 A5 Coupe this summer and wanted to see what your thoughts were on waiting until the 2015 A5s come out (which should be later this summer) to get better lease terms for the 2014 A5. Please advise when you have the opportunity or if you could speculate how much you could see the MF and Residual changing in the coming months. I currently have a paid off car and am in no rush.

    Also, just for my own edification before the Summer of Audi event ends, what would be the rates on a 2014 A5 Premium Plus with the Audi MMI Navigation Package: 10K per Year for 36 and 39 months?

    Thanks in advance for all of your great help!

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 6,496

    @jonathan777 said: First off, this board is very informative and very helpful. Thanks to the Moderators who are very active on this forum!

    I plan on getting a 2014 A5 Coupe this summer and wanted to see what your thoughts were on waiting until the 2015 A5s come out (which should be later this summer) to get better lease terms for the 2014 A5. Please advise when you have the opportunity or if you could speculate how much you could see the MF and Residual changing in the coming months. I currently have a paid off car and am in no rush.

    Also, just for my own edification before the Summer of Audi event ends, what would be the rates on a 2014 A5 Premium Plus with the Audi MMI Navigation Package: 10K per Year for 36 and 39 months?

    Thanks in advance for all of your great help!

    Let's start with the last question first - MF and RV for the 2014 A5 Prem + is .00015 and 55% for 36/10 and .00035 and 53% for 39/10.

    2015 numbers are out - 36/10 is .00148 and 60%, while 39/10 is .00168 and 58%.

    At the moment, looks to be the better deals are to be had on the outgoing 2014's - you should be able to secure a better discount from sticker, which will reduce your payment.

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  • deniecejdeniecej Posts: 3
    Hello! Trying my best to lease an A5 for under $500 a month. I've seen a few posts where this happened, but not many. Assuming the .00015 MF and standard residual. What kind of price point am I looking for?
  • haboobhaboob BirminghamPosts: 6
    edited July 28

    Ok tell me how I did (brutal honesty). Just signed the lease on a loaded 2014 A5 Premium Plus (MSRP 52,270) with a $500 walk off all in and 41 monthly payments of $559 including prepaid maintenance (10k Miles per year).

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 6,496

    @haboob said: Ok tell me how I did (brutal honesty). Just signed the lease on a loaded 2014 A5 Premium Plus (MSRP 52,270) with a $500 walk off all in and 41 monthly payments of $559 including prepaid maintenance (10k Miles per year).

    Hard to tell without the negotiated cap cost, but I would say an OK deal. The lease term of 42 months didn't help - the MF is increased for any leases longer than 36 months, and the residual drops off quickly.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 6,496

    @deniecej said: Hello! Trying my best to lease an A5 for under $500 a month. I've seen a few posts where this happened, but not many. Assuming the .00015 MF and standard residual. What kind of price point am I looking for?

    Well, the first thing is to find a car that is minimally optioned, then negotiate your best price from that (5-7% discount from MSRP seems to be what people are getting).

    Then, ensure you get the base MF of .00015 and decide how much of the fees and taxes you want to pay up front - rolling them into the lease only increases the payment.

    Then, look at using MSDs to lower the MF.

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  • haboobhaboob BirminghamPosts: 6

    MF was .00040 and residual 52%. Looks like the cap was 47,950 including tax/tag/title/fees/maintenance.

    @Michaell said: Hard to tell without the negotiated cap cost, but I would say an OK deal. The lease term of 42 months didn't help - the MF is increased for any leases longer than 36 months, and the residual drops off quickly.

  • jonathan777jonathan777 Posts: 2

    I ended up getting an 2014 Audi A5 over the weekend. It was a gray Premium Plus with Navigation, Side Assist, etc. with an MSRP of $49,125. I ended up paying $1,971 drive off with no down payment, and my monthly payments are $507 and change. I did a 36 month lease with 12,000 miles/ year with both Audi Care and Wear and Tear Insurance rolled into the lease payments. Thank you very much to the Mods in this forum.

  • jmr9jmr9 Posts: 20
    edited July 30

    Are lease numbers for the 2015 A5 coupe Premium+ manual transmission available yet? 12K/36mos

  • deniecejdeniecej Posts: 3

    @jonatha777 or anyone else: I'm trying to get a lease deal with about a $500/month. I want that deal! I've been shopping in the $49K range and the payments aren't coming below $557 including tax and title with $2000 down, $1300 applied to cap cost reduction, per the sheet I "stole". They even gave me 11% off MSRP and MF 0.00015. What else do I need to do??? I'm really trying to buy ASAP! That's for 36/10K

  • deniecejdeniecej Posts: 3

    @haboob: Thanks for the MSD comment, I'm looking into it in case I go with a 2015 model :smiley: The dealer today tried to play dumb though....

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 6,496

    @jmr9 said: Are lease numbers for the 2015 A5 coupe Premium+ manual transmission available yet? 12K/36mos

    .00148 and 59%.

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  • jmr9jmr9 Posts: 20

    @Michaell‌ Thanks-could I also get 15K/36mos (2015 A5 coupe Premium+ manual transmission)?

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 6,496

    @jmr9 said: Michaell‌ Thanks-could I also get 15K/36mos (2015 A5 coupe Premium+ manual transmission)?

    Subtract 2% from the residual value above. MF stays the same.

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  • jmr9jmr9 Posts: 20
    edited August 1

    @Michaell‌ Would appreciate your help. The monthly payment the dealer gave me doesn't match with when I use these.

    MSRP 51145, selling price 48240, CCR 3000, gross cap cost 49923.

    Dealer gave me 644 + tax. I get 606 + tax.

    36 mos 45K mi

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 6,496

    @jmr9 said: Michaell‌ Would appreciate your help. The monthly payment the dealer gave me doesn't match with when I use these.

    MSRP 51145, selling price 48240, CCR 3000, gross cap cost 49923.

    Dealer gave me 644 + tax. I get 606 + tax.

    36 mos 45K mi

    Using your MSRP and gross cap cost with the MF of .00148 and RV of 57% (36/15), I get a pre-tax payment of $693.99.

    Explain to me how the selling price of $48,240 and $3000 of cap cost reduction ends up with a gross cap of $49,923? What state do you live in? Sales tax is applied to leases differently based on where you live.

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  • jmr9jmr9 Posts: 20
    edited August 1

    @Michaell‌ WI 5.6% sales tax

    Gross cap cost is 49923 less 3000 CCR = 46923 adj cap cost

    I believe the gross cap cost was selling price + additional fees (acq, tax, title, reg, dealer service)--does that sound right? I'm waiting to get the itemized breakdown.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 6,496

    @jmr9 said: Michaell‌ WI 5.6% sales tax

    Gross cap cost is 49923 less 3000 CCR = 46923 adj cap cost

    I believe the gross cap cost was selling price + additional fees (acq, tax, title, reg, dealer service)--does that sound right? I'm waiting to get the itemized breakdown.

    OK, now I'm getting the $606/mo pre-tax number when I use the $46,923 adjusted cap cost.

    Getting the breakdown on the fees, etc. added to that will help greatly.

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  • jmr9jmr9 Posts: 20

    @Michaell‌ acquisition fee of $695.00, service fee of $168.00 and the negative trade equity of $820.00

    the negative trade equity was never mentioned so I'm not sure what that's about

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 6,496

    @jmr9 said: Michaell‌ acquisition fee of $695.00, service fee of $168.00 and the negative trade equity of $820.00

    the negative trade equity was never mentioned so I'm not sure what that's about

    You're trading in a car? The negative equity can either be paid off up front or added into the cap cost and spread out over the term of the new lease.

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  • jmr9jmr9 Posts: 20
    edited August 1

    @Michaell‌ Yes-a leased vehicle. Now my dilemma is that they never disclosed this to me. I asked for an explanation of the difference between selling price and gross cap cost and was told it was dealer fee, acq, title, etc.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 6,496

    @jmr9 said: Michaell‌ Yes-a leased vehicle. Now my dilemma is that they never disclosed this to me. I asked for an explanation of the difference between selling price and gross cap cost and was told it was dealer fee, acq, title, etc.

    If you haven't signed anything, I don't see a problem. You can always work with a different Audi dealer if the first one has been playing games with you.

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  • jmr9jmr9 Posts: 20
    edited August 2

    @michaell Of course I already signed the agreement (car won't be delivered until later in the month). In retrospect I should have had them itemize the fees when I was there.

  • liljaden11liljaden11 Posts: 14

    Can I please have this month's MF/Res for: 2014 A5 2.0T Premium 36/15,12 - Incentives '14 S5 Premium/P+ 36/15,12 - Incentives Thank you

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 6,496

    @liljaden11 said: Can I please have this month's MF/Res for:

    2014 A5 2.0T Premium 36/15,12 - Incentives

    .00015 and 52% - add 2% for 12K

    '14 S5 Premium/P+ 36/15,12 - Incentives

    .00094 and 52% - add 2% for 12K

    Thank you

    Audi will make the first payment for you this month - A5 up to $800, S5 up to $900

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  • jonr7jonr7 Posts: 1
    Please provide rates for both 2014 & 2015 A5 Coupe with 15K/yr, at both 36 and 48 months. Thank you.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,936

    @jonr7 said: Please provide rates for both 2014 & 2015 A5 Coupe with 15K/yr, at both 36 and 48 months. Thank you.

    2014: .00015 MF and 52% residual for 36mo. .00035 MF and 48% residual for 42 months

    2015: .00148 MF and 57% residual for 36mo. .00168 MF and 53% residual for 42 months

    Audi doesn't support subvented rates for 48 months.. Examples above are on the Premium Plus model.

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  • md82md82 Posts: 4
    edited August 11

    This thread is extremely helpful. I am trying to lease a 2014 A5 Premium plus with NAV package with a few extras with MSRP of $48,345. I had the dealer give me some rough numbers and here is what I got. I need to know how good these numbers are and what I should negotiate for to get a good deal.

    Selling Price - Incentives(1K) = $44,444 Fees = $660 Sales Tax = $3,370 Net Sales Price = $49,474 Residual Value = $26,200

    36 mo lease with 12k miles with $2,145.15 down for $571.94

    They refused to give me MF & other numbers until I go in. Thank you in advance for your help.

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 6,496

    @md82 said: This thread is extremely helpful. I am trying to lease a 2014 A5 Premium plus with NAV package with a few extras with MSRP of $48,345. I had the dealer give me some rough numbers and here is what I got. I need to know how good these numbers are and what I should negotiate for to get a good deal.

    Selling Price - Incentives(1K) = $44,444 Fees = $660 Sales Tax = $3,370 Net Sales Price = $49,474 Residual Value = $26,200

    36 mo lease with 12k miles with $2,145.15 down for $571.94

    They refused to give me MF & other numbers until I go in. Thank you in advance for your help.

    The base MF is .00015 and the 36/12 residual is 54%. You must live in a state where the entire selling price is taxed (IL, TX, GA, MD).

    When I run your numbers (MSRP $48,345, net selling price $49,474), I get a payment of $660.44/mo for 36 months.

    How much of the down is cap cost reduction (aka down payment)?

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  • md82md82 Posts: 4

    Down Payment of $2,145.15. Also there $1,000 incentive built into net sales price of $49,474

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