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2014 Volkswagen Passat Lease Questions

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,100

    @raj2014 said:
    Hello,

    I am looking for RV/MF on following cars on 27/36 months. I was told that they do not offer 7.5K miles, if so, on 10K miles. Also, what kind of incentives I can expect from them.



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    2014 Passat SE with Sunroof and Navigation 1.8L

    2014 Passat V6 SEL Premium

    2014 Passat TDI® Clean Diesel SEL Premium

    Sorry for a list but trying to figure out which will give us best value for the buck...
    Thanks for all your help.

    VW doesn't really offer a competitive 27 month program, so here are the 36 mo. numbers.

    .00005 MF and 50% residual for the 1.8T SE. $3000 lease cash

    .00018 MF and 50% residual for the V6. $4000 lease cash

    .00043 MF and 58% residual for the TDI. No lease cash

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  • raj2014raj2014 Member Posts: 19

    @kyfdx‌
    Thanks for all your help...

  • brianbbbrianbb Member Posts: 18

    @kyfdx said:
    I'm not positive, but it looks like you only get the fuel card with a purchase.

    I didn't make the purchase back in April, But I am looking in to a 2014 Passat SEL Premium 1.8 T now. So I was wondering what the MF, Lease cash and residual are for 3yrs 12k per year. Also, am I correct in assuming that you can negotiate a purchase price then deduct the lease cash from that price? With true car I can get $5234 off MSRP and then take the lease cash off cap cost as well? or is the lease cash only off MSRP? Thanks - Brian

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,100

    @brianbb said:
    I didn't make the purchase back in April, But I am looking in to a 2014 Passat SEL Premium 1.8 T now. So I was wondering what the MF, Lease cash and residual are for 3yrs 12k per year. Also, am I correct in assuming that you can negotiate a purchase price then deduct the lease cash from that price? With true car I can get $5234 off MSRP and then take the lease cash off cap cost as well? or is the lease cash only off MSRP? Thanks - Brian

    .00005 MF and 49% residual. $3000 lease cash.

    Technically, the lease cash is a VW-to-dealer incentive. Any quote that the dealer gives you will take that into account. I don't profess to know how dealer's handle TrueCar quotes, but I'm pretty sure you won't get $5234 off MSRP, then another $3000 on top of that.

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  • sajalionsajalion Member Posts: 3
    First time leasing.
    Not so smart and diligent.
    Looking for a lease for 2014 Passat. (Basic w. Auto transmission only)
    36MO/12K
    State of Illinois.
    What will be the reasonable MO. payment I should expect;
    Case 1: no down payment
    Case 2: down payment of $3,000

    I would appreciate your advice.
    Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @sajalion said:
    First time leasing.
    Not so smart and diligent.
    Looking for a lease for 2014 Passat. (Basic w. Auto transmission only)
    36MO/12K
    State of Illinois.
    What will be the reasonable MO. payment I should expect;
    Case 1: no down payment
    Case 2: down payment of $3,000

    I would appreciate your advice.
    Thank you.

    Residual and MF for 36/12 on a Passat S with Automatic - 49% and .00024. $2750 lease cash.

    In Illinois, you must pay sales tax on the entire purchase price of the vehicle, which makes your lease payment much more expensive than in other states. The law is changing, but not until 1/1/15.

    I would not recommend making a down payment to lower your monthly payment; if the car is stolen or totaled, you lose that money.

    If you can provide the sticker price and negotiated selling price, we can model some payments for you.

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  • sajalionsajalion Member Posts: 3

    Thank you much!
    It is MSRP of $23,035 and purchasing price of $19.591

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @sajalion said:
    Thank you much!
    It is MSRP of $23,035 and purchasing price of $19.591

    Using a traditional lease payment calculation, I get a pre-tax payment of $238.07.

    However, you will pay the sales tax on the entire $19,591, so that amount will be added to the purchase price up front, and will increase your payment. What is the sales tax rate where you live?

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  • sajalionsajalion Member Posts: 3
    It is about 9%. State & County.
  • brianbbbrianbb Member Posts: 18

    @kyfdx said:

    Ok thanks, Does the dealer get a similar kind of incentive if one is purchased instead of leased?

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @sajalion said:
    It is about 9%. State & County.

    Adding that to your negotiated cap cost takes your payment to $287.47/mo for 36 months.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @brianbb said:
    Ok thanks, Does the dealer get a similar kind of incentive if one is purchased instead of leased?

    On a purchase, there is a factory to customer rebate of $1000 available on the Passat and $1250 of factory to dealer money.

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  • on_the_cheapon_the_cheap Member Posts: 26
    Hello hosts!!! Can I get June's numbers for a 36 month 15k lease on:

    2014 passat 1.8t SE
    2014 passat 1.8t SE w/ sunroof

    Please? Any other incentives that go along with that? Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @on_the_cheap said:
    Hello hosts!!! Can I get June's numbers for a 36 month 15k lease on:

    2014 passat 1.8t SE
    2014 passat 1.8t SE w/ sunroof

    Please? Any other incentives that go along with that? Thanks!

    No difference with or without sunroof. MF is .00005 and residual is 47%. $3000 lease cash.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,100

    @brianbb said:
    Ok thanks, Does the dealer get a similar kind of incentive if one is purchased instead of leased?

    On a purchase, there is a $1000 customer incentive, plus 0% financing up to 60 months. The dealer gets a small kickback for writing a loan (a bigger kickback, if they markup the rate).. There maybe a dealer incentive for cash deals that don't use the 0% financing, but I'm not sure what amount that would be. It could be as much as $1000.

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  • mobilerovermobilerover Member Posts: 20

    Considering a 2014 CC R-Line in Southern California. Can you please share MF & Residuals, along with any incentives for a 3yr/12k lease?

    Thanks.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @mobilerover said:
    Considering a 2014 CC R-Line in Southern California. Can you please share MF & Residuals, along with any incentives for a 3yr/12k lease?

    Thanks.

    50% and .00001 MF. $2750 lease cash.

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  • mobilerovermobilerover Member Posts: 20

    @Michaell, your the best. Thanks for this.

    @Michaell said:
    50% and .00001 MF. $2750 lease cash.

  • evil0neevil0ne Member Posts: 14

    @Michaell said:

    I'd like 15K miles 2yr but would also consider 3yr? Thanks.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @evil0ne said:
    Passat TDI SEL. I'd like 15K miles 2yr but would also consider 3yr

    62% (24mo) and 55% (36mo). .00043 MF on both.

    You can add 1% to the residual if you purchase the Lease Excess Wear Program (LEWP).

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,429

    Since he asked and I'm going to have to ask, are the residuals the same for the TDI SE & TDI SEL? Money factor is .00043 for both? So if the residual is 55% for 15K per year, then is it 57% for 12K?

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @nyccarguy said:
    Since he asked and I'm going to have to ask, are the residuals the same for the TDI SE & TDI SEL? Money factor is .00043 for both? So if the residual is 55% for 15K per year, then is it 57% for 12K?

    All TDI numbers are the same, regardless of trim level. And yes, add 2% for 12K.

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  • mobilerovermobilerover Member Posts: 20

    @Michaell said:
    50% and .00001 MF. $2750 lease cash.

    So far I've been offered .00052 w/ $4,900 off sticker from one dealer and .00032 w/$3,100 off sticker from another, both with 50% RF. Am I missing something, or are they working me on marking up the MF?

  • evil0neevil0ne Member Posts: 14

    Thanks for the help Michaell, last question...same 2750 lease cash for the TDI?

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,429

    No. Lease cash is only available on gas powered Passats. If you are interested in leasing, the higher residual of the TDI will most likely offset most of the lease cash incentive.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @evil0ne said:
    Thanks for the help Michaell, last question...same 2750 lease cash for the TDI?

    Nope, no lease cash for the TDI. Too popular, I guess.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @mobilerover said:
    So far I've been offered .00052 w/ $4,900 off sticker from one dealer and .00032 w/$3,100 off sticker from another, both with 50% RF. Am I missing something, or are they working me on marking up the MF?

    I'd tell the dealers that I'm not interested in a deal that includes a marked up MF.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,100

    @mobilerover said:
    So far I've been offered .00052 w/ $4,900 off sticker from one dealer and .00032 w/$3,100 off sticker from another, both with 50% RF. Am I missing something, or are they working me on marking up the MF?

    The numbers for the CC R-Line for 36mo, 12K/yr are .00032 MF and 50% residual. Not sure where the .00001 came from. Sorry... and, it's $4500 lease cash... So, you should be looking for a discount around $5500.

    .00052 is marked up...

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  • raj2014raj2014 Member Posts: 19

    Can you please provide RV and MF for 2014 Passat 1.8 SEL Premium on 10K/36 months. Also, please let me know, if any incentives available.

    Thanks

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @raj2014 said:
    Can you please provide RV and MF for 2014 Passat 1.8 SEL Premium on 10K/36 months. Also, please let me know, if any incentives available.

    Thanks

    .00005 and 50%. $3000 lease cash available.

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  • raj2014raj2014 Member Posts: 19
    edited June 2014

    @Michaell‌ Thanks for the information.

    Just want to confirm one thing... the incentives should be off the invoice price or MSRP?

    Thanks again

  • joekrishjoekrish Member Posts: 5

    Just Leased 2014 Passat Wolfsburg...21,035 + Tax...2500 dn 219/mth 36 months....0.51 residual...

  • on_the_cheapon_the_cheap Member Posts: 26
    2014 Tsi SE w/ sunroof + 18" 10-spoke wheels, 15k / 36 mos, and pulled out of current lease 8 mos early. 349/ mo tax included, only startups paid at signing. Good?
  • bobbyv34bobbyv34 Member Posts: 1
    Hey I just wanted to confirm the 2014 Passat TDI SEL premium MF and residual for 36 months and 10k or 12k a year.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @bobbyv34 said:
    Hey I just wanted to confirm the 2014 Passat TDI SEL premium MF and residual for 36 months and 10k or 12k a year.

    36/12 - .00043 and 57%. Add 1% for 10K.

    No lease cash on TDI this month, though the residual was bumped up 3% from May.

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  • pavlonpavlon Member Posts: 43

    Hey guys, want to share what i got today. Leased a 2014 CC sport - black on black - zero drive off, 24 month lease, 12,000 miles per year - 23 payments of $339 including taxes. The sale price was $25,700. what do you think?

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @pavlon said:
    Hey guys, want to share what i got today. Leased a 2014 CC sport - black on black - zero drive off, 24 month lease, 12,000 miles per year - 23 payments of $339 including taxes. The sale price was $25,700. what do you think?

    Seems pretty good for $0 out of pocket and a 24 month lease. Enjoy!

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,100

    Great lease deals on the CC, right now, due to massive amounts of lease cash. What was the MSRP of your CC? About $33K?

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  • pavlonpavlon Member Posts: 43

    MSRP - $33,760

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    Very nice..

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  • joeconsumer1joeconsumer1 Member Posts: 18

    Could you please advise us on the 2014 Passat V6 SEL premium MF and residual for 24/27/36 months and 10k a year? I see there is $4,000 lease bonus cash? Thanks.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @joeconsumer1 said:
    Could you please advise us on the 2014 Passat V6 SEL premium MF and residual for 24/27/36 months and 10k a year? I see there is $4,000 lease bonus cash? Thanks.

    MF is .00018 and I confirm the $4000 lease cash on the V6 models.

    Residual is 57% / 55% / 50%.

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  • dmulcahydmulcahy Member Posts: 4
    Hi

    want to know if this is a good deal for me:

    turning in a 2012 vw CC with 27,000 and one year left on lease

    new Passat SE nav/moonroof etc

    MSRP: 28,715
    Residual: 47%
    MF: .00005
    Lease cash: 3,000

    36m lease with 15k miles: 390 a month
    36m lease with 12k miles: 370
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,429

    So they are just rolling your remaining CC lease payments into your new Passat payment?

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @dmulcahy said:
    Hi

    want to know if this is a good deal for me:

    turning in a 2012 vw CC with 27,000 and one year left on lease

    new Passat SE nav/moonroof etc

    MSRP: 28,715
    Residual: 47%
    MF: .00005
    Lease cash: 3,000

    36m lease with 15k miles: 390 a month
    36m lease with 12k miles: 370

    nyc raises a good point - how are the remaining payments on your CC lease being addressed? I'm guessing they are being added to the net cap cost of your new lease, given the size of the new payment.

    I can confirm the MF of .00005 and residual of 47% for the SE 1.8T 36/15. Add 2% for 12K per year.

    We can model a payment if you provide us with the net cap cost.

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  • dmulcahydmulcahy Member Posts: 4
    Cap cost is 24,715
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @dmulcahy said:
    Cap cost is 24,715

    I get a pre-tax payment of $313.15.

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  • dmulcahydmulcahy Member Posts: 4
    Thanks for all the feedback. I'm assuming if my lease was over and didn't have 12 payments remaining, the 313 would be my new payment.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,284

    @dmulcahy said:
    Thanks for all the feedback. I'm assuming if my lease was over and didn't have 12 payments remaining, the 313 would be my new payment.

    Yes, we were assuming a $0 down lease with no negative equity rolled in. If my math is right, the $77/mo delta between my payment and yours represents the approximately $2800 of remaining lease payments being rolled in.

    Why are you getting out of your existing lease early?

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  • dmulcahydmulcahy Member Posts: 4
    Low roof line and I'm in and out of car 20 times a day. However, it's not worth the 77.00 a month to do so. So I will keep until end. Thanks again.
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